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Posted (edited)

Nice work LS 

Eamonn will be pleased as the rudder is on😆 and I heard no cursing !

Have you thought how you are doing your deadeye strops this time?

 

Edited by Edwardkenway

Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25

Providence whaleboat- 1:25     HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished    Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

Posted (edited)

Hi LS 

She's looking better every day. I must say I'm a little envious of how neat and tidy you've got her😉

Edited by Edwardkenway
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Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25

Providence whaleboat- 1:25     HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished    Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

Posted

Hi all,

Thank you for your kind words Edward, appreciated as always. Thanks also for the likes given by others, again, appreciated. 

Today l fitted the Deadeyes and Chainplates. Once again l just could not fathom how to use the brackets supplied to attach the Deadeyes to the Chainplates, it's beyond me l am afraid, and, like last time, l devised my own method. 

I have not yet pinned the Chainplates into position on the main wale, l am waiting until l have fitted the main Shrouds. By doing so l will get them correctly aligned, unlike my Ballahoo.

During  my next session l shall attach the Blocks and Cleats required to start the rigging.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

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Posted
Posted

Hi all,

Thank you both for your kind words, they are great compliments coming from such good builders as yourselves. 

I spent quite some time in my Den Saturday pondering over the rigging plans for my Sherbourne, they are much more complicated than those of my Ballahoo, or seem to be at least. I ended the day non the wiser. Sunday l discovered the book, Rigging period Fore-and-Aft craft by Lennarth Patersson.

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I have read it and, using it in conjunction with my Sherbourne's plans, l now have a much better understanding and feel much more able to tackle the task ahead. I am just glad l found it before l made a complete hash of things.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Posted (edited)

Hi LS

The rigging is less complicated than it looks. The one thing I would have done differently is the running rigging that the plans show belayed on the windlass, if I were doing it again I would belay them on the mast bits.

You  have made yourself a lovely little ship and she will compliment Ballahoo perfectly. 

Cheers

Edited by Edwardkenway

Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25

Providence whaleboat- 1:25     HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished    Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

Posted

I based my own rigging of the Sherbourne on Petersson's book, and found it very helpful. However, I did augment it with more precise details from Steel, Marquardt and others. The original plans in the NMM came with no rigging plan, so it really is up to you how you rig it, within the various options that these different authors and paintings portray. Not only were there many different approaches to the rigging of a cutter at the time, in terms of number of yards, positioning of the topmast, and belaying plans but every shipyard had its own way of doing things, and captains would often change the rigging to suit their own requirements. Finally, I do recommend that you go with the sail plan, and therefore the rigging plan, that pleases you most -- especially if you plan to show the model with sails.

 

It should be noted that the kit differs from the original plans in some details, notably the windlass, so you also have to decide whether you want to attempt to go for some original recreation (which to my mind is impossible) or whether you see this as a generic reconstruction of what these lovely ships used to be.

 

There's a huge amount of discussion on most of these aspects on this site, either in detailed build logs or in discussions of each of the different details.

 

You are doing a really nice job so far, and whatever you decide, it's going to end up as something deeply satisfying to you and to those around you.

 

Tony

Posted

Hi all,

Thank you all very much for that really useful information, l am realizing how complex a subject rigging is. I do find it most absorbing and, l think, my favourite part of a ship build. I am using my book to help me make sense of the plans issued with the kit and have found it perfectly acceptable for that task so far. Thank you also for the encouraging words, appreciated, as always.

Today l started on the rigging and, although spent quite some time in my Den, didn't progress as far as l expected. That of course is, l suppose, the nature of rigging ha ha.

I did however manage to get the Mast and Spars prepared with their Blocks and Cleats plus some of the Standing Rigging on the Bowsprit.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

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Posted (edited)

Hi  LS,  looking good, I agree with you, I found rigging can be a very enjoyable part of the build.

I think your masts and spars look neat and sharp with their paint job.

Keep up the good work

Cheers 

Edited by Edwardkenway

Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25

Providence whaleboat- 1:25     HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished    Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

Posted (edited)

Hi all,

A little more done again today. I am amazed at how absorbing this hobby is, l am so pleased l gave wooden model ships a go, l may never build in plastic again.

Today l finished the Bowsprit Guys and Jib Halliard. I have not tied off any of my Standing rigging yet, l am waiting until it is all in place, then l will tighten all and tie off.

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The next stage was the fitting of the main Shrouds. 

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It is getting very busy up there with all those Shrouds, l am trying to keep it as neat and tidy as possible. I still have the Forestay and Backstays to go.

Here l have added the Forstay with its collar and mouse. 

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l have half done the Backstays in that the main Shrouds are fitted and have their single blocks tied on. Tomorrow/next session, l will add the tensioning blocks and rope. CSC_0371.thumb.JPG.9f63cf91905fea160ccd71128d5a6a93.JPG

It looks a proper medieval muddle at the moment with loose ends of string/ropes draped everywhere. Not to worry, l think l know which string/rope goes where. DSC_0364.thumb.JPG.53ef3273b08c36d4544b10696944c11c.JPGDSC_0360.thumb.JPG.4fe0e5868c7eb4e241535064dd3e9fc4.JPG

Tomorrow l will complete the Backstays and Forestay, attach the Deadeyes to the Shrouds and then rig them the the Deadeyes on the Hull, phew. I am not sure l will get that much done, but when l do get that far l will, at last, be able to fix the Chainplates into their correct angle.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

 

Edited by The Lazy Saint
Posted

Hi all,

Thanks Dirk, appreciated. I did say my next session would be tomorrow but l couldn't focus on anything else today, my mind kept going back to Blocks, Stays and Shrouds. So l went back to my Den to do just a little more. I hope l am not developing a problem here, ha ha.

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Once again, l have not tied anything off yet, l will wait untill l have completed the whole standing rigging and once happy l will tie it all off together. 

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

Posted

Hi all,

Thanks for the kind words Edward and for the tip Rick, appreciated as always.

I do plan to tie it all down before moving on to the ratlines.

Today l completed the rigging of the Starboard Deadeyes, tomorrow's task will be the Port side. Once l am happy with my efforts, for better or worse, l shall tie it all down. Then on to the ratlines.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

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Posted

Hi all,

This afternoon l completed the standing rigging and, all in all, l am happy with my efforts. I was hoping to get all the Deadeyes perfectly level but it's the devil's own work achieving it. On my build there is a slight error on each side. I did, however, manage to correctly align the Chainplates. Hopefully this will redeem me in the eyes of the purists. 🤗

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It certainly looks a lot more tidy now l have cleared the deck of all the loose ends of standing rigging. 

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Hi Rick, regarding the Catheads. l have googled the rigging of the Anchor/Catheads but l have been left a little bemused. I have also seen an example on an absolutely superb build by Tony / tkay11 but l still don't "get" it. I have put it aside as something for further study and, as there is no mention of it in the instructions, l have decided to leave it as it is. Fortunately l am not building a museum piece ha ha.

My next task is the ratlines, it is my first attempt at these as they weren't required on my Ballahoo. I have prepared my template, as l have seen on a tutorial elsewhere on MSW and, with luck, will produce somthing a sailor would be happy climbing. 

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Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint.

Posted
7 hours ago, The Lazy Saint said:

l still don't "get" it.

But that's what this forum is for. If something is unclear just ask, we all do it even the experts at times. Basically you just need 4 holes drilled at the tip of the arm then rigged through those holes and a block with a hook attached like this.

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It'll make all the difference if you can manage it.

 

Rick

Posted

There are some very simple jigs you can make to ensure the deadeyes are all in line (though on real ships they quite often were not that straight, so this is more of a model-making convention). I made mine with paper clips. See the following, a few paragraphs into the post:

 

By the way, I strongly recommend the late Hubert Sicard's site Wooden Ship Modeling for Dummies. This is now maintained by his family. A lot of it is free, but you can get a lifetime subscription for $40. I used it extensively. It has plenty of free videos and focuses on using the most basic equipment with the minimum of power tools.

 

Tony

Posted

Hi all,

Thanks Rick for such great info/encouragement on my Anchor problem, thanks Tony for that great recommendation and thanks Dirk for shaming me into action. 😂

Here is where l am at now.

I drilled the four holes in each of the Catheads for the pulleys, l also attached an eyelet to each. Rigged with a double block and hook and attached to the anchor. 

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once l was happy l had rigged each anchor correctly, l lowered each for the fitting of the anchor buoys. 

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My last task of the session was to re hang each of the anchors in what will be their final positions (approximately) Once again, l shall wait until l am happy before tying off.

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Tomorrow l shall lash them down, adjust where necessary and tie down their rigging. I shall also make and tie up the anchor  buoys. 

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Posted

Hi LS 

That little extra you've just done with the anchors is just great. Good work. 

On 9/17/2019 at 6:27 PM, Dubz said:

You lazy Saint 😄

 

He told you !!😋😅

Current builds;

 Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25

Providence whaleboat- 1:25     HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 

Completed:

HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished    Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished 

Non ship:  SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED

 

 

Posted

Hi all,

Ha ha, yes he certainly did Edward, and thanks for your kind words.

I started on the ratlines today and must admit l thought at first that l lacked the dexterity required for the task, but, after many attempts (not to mention half a spool of thread) l got it. I have now managed to get into a rhythm. I have run out of time today so l hope l can pick up that rhythm again during my next session.

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The Lazy Saint. 

 

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