cpt. Tom Posted June 9, 2013 #61 Posted June 9, 2013 Hello Mario, this is a beautiful ship and good work until now. Nice plankening Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply
Anja Posted June 9, 2013 #62 Posted June 9, 2013 Hello Mario, Beautiful planking, well done! It looks great. Now you can go on a well deserved holiday. Have a great time and take care, Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo
scottacus Posted June 9, 2013 #63 Posted June 9, 2013 Very nice job Mario! This hull is tricky to build but turns out really nice in the end. Scott Quote Sea of Galilee Boat Kits
tarbrush Posted June 9, 2013 #64 Posted June 9, 2013 beautiful Mario! I was relieved you wiggled the hull and it popped loose, I am pretty sure I would have a had a "now what" moment had I been building it. Have a great vacation! Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise
captainbob Posted June 9, 2013 #65 Posted June 9, 2013 Mario, Well done on a tough planking job. It will be interesting to see how the second hull differs. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
Jim Lad Posted June 9, 2013 #66 Posted June 9, 2013 Phew! That was a difficult planking job done well, Mario! Johnb Quote
riverboat Posted June 9, 2013 #67 Posted June 9, 2013 Mission accomplished!! Job well done Mario Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted June 11, 2013 Author #68 Posted June 11, 2013 Oh My GOSH!!! Thank you all my friends. It was really nice to hear from you all.... Time for another update............... Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted June 11, 2013 Author #69 Posted June 11, 2013 Questions and remark are very welcomed avsjerome2003 1 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
Jim Lad Posted June 11, 2013 #70 Posted June 11, 2013 Nicely done, Mario. You appear to have quite a few partial frames there. I assume that's the same configuration as the original boat? John Cap'n Rat Fink 1 Quote
realworkingsailor Posted June 11, 2013 #71 Posted June 11, 2013 Incredibly painstaking work, very nicely done Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted June 11, 2013 Author #72 Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Thank you very much realworkingsailor, Nicely done, Mario. You appear to have quite a few partial frames there. I assume that's the same configuration as the original boat? John Thanks John and for your question. A very good one too. You know John looking at the remains of the Galilee Boat the pattern differs from Scott's model. But in the book it shows the pattern that Scott used in his kit. So 2 different patterns in the same book. The model at the museum has the pattern to the remains, which makes sence to me. The small explanation in the book only says that the boat wright used different woods, because he had a limited supply in his area, so he used whatever he could get his hands on. This also holds true to the hull planking. He used different woods and when you look at the sketch from the expert they used to look over the remains, he mentioned that you will notice some of the planks where more like splinters. The boat wright had to do this because again he had what was avaliable. Why did he carve done the used planks to splinters because he had to remove the old tendon and mortice joints so he could add the new tendon and mortice joints. I mention this because remember my Bounty Launch and finding out that these boats had a short life span so they were building them all the time. So no real records of how they were acually built. So they were built from experience and from memory. Believe it or not John they mention this same pattern about these ancient boats. Used a lot so a short life span, so the boat wright of ancient times knew how to build them like he knew the back of his hand. So I guess it's what I or anyone else decides what this boat might of looked like. But my 2nd hull will have more changes to it, as to how I interpet the hull to be like.... Great question John and I hope like my answer, but then again that will be your interpertation of my explanation.... Here are a few photos to help out in the explanation..... THIS IS THE MODEL IN THE JESUS BOAT MUSEUM IN ISRAEL...NOTE THE FRAME PATTERN THE RED LINES YOU SEE WERE ADDED BY ME WHICH IS THE PATTERN THAT I PICKED UP FROM THE SKETCH AN EXPERT OF ANCIENT BOATS DREW UP...YOU WILL ALSO NOTICE ALL THE WOODS USED TO BUILD THE ANCIENT BOAT. AT THE MUSEUM WHEN THEY STARTED TO DISPLAY THE BOAT THEY PLANTED EVERY TREE THAT WAS USED TO BUILD THE BOAT ALL AROUND THE MUSEUM GROUNDS... AND THE ACTUAL REMAINS THEMSELVES...NOTICE THE FRAME PATTERN. AND A REALLY NICE TIDBIT....WHEN THEY DISCOVERED THE REMAINS AND AFTER THEY RE-LOCATED THE BOAT TO IT'S NEW HOME IT STAYED SUBMERGED IN WATER FOR 11 MORE YEARS BEFORE IT COULD BE DISPLAY AS YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE.... Edited June 11, 2013 by Cap'n Rat Fink Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
tarbrush Posted June 11, 2013 #73 Posted June 11, 2013 Mario, that is coming out so cool, you've done an awesome job!! Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise
Anja Posted June 11, 2013 #74 Posted June 11, 2013 Hello Mario, Beautiful work on the framing. Take care, Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo
Jim Lad Posted June 11, 2013 #75 Posted June 11, 2013 Thanks for all those photos, Mario. It looks like they built the outside of the hull and then just used whatever timber they could lay their hands on to strengthen the inside. Very different to our northern European tradition of boat building! John Quote
ZyXuz Posted June 11, 2013 #76 Posted June 11, 2013 what a superb planking job! well done! Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel)
captainbob Posted June 11, 2013 #77 Posted June 11, 2013 Well done Mario, You say they were short lived a built all the time. So I suspect there were several builders and every builder had his own frame pattern. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
riverboat Posted June 11, 2013 #78 Posted June 11, 2013 That is one great!! looking build Mario......... just awesome!...... you sure pick some good ones!! Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
scottacus Posted June 11, 2013 #79 Posted June 11, 2013 Nice job Mario! One thing you will notice after framing the hull is that once all he frames are in place, the hull is incredibly strong. I'm not saying that you should tip it upside down and stand on it but I'd bet it could support 50+ pounds and not fail. Scott Quote Sea of Galilee Boat Kits
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted June 12, 2013 Author #80 Posted June 12, 2013 Thank you all for your very nice comments....!!! Hi John yes after reading a bit on there ancient boat construction, it is a different way of doing things. Cap'n Bob yes that is true on the life of these boats. In what ever area they lived they built them to suit their needs at the time. AND NOW JUST FOR THE FUN............................................................... BACK ON 1.0 I WAS KNOWN AS TELEMAN.... I said a while back that i was having trouble finding time to work on my models and i may have to stop or build my models and then post them after they are done because i just don't have the time I use to everyday. Like today was a long 15hr day that started at 3am this morning. Well my job is tied to my handle(teleman) telecommunication.. my new job assignment. dealing with FIBER, FIBER TRANSPORT, and DIGITAL/MICROWAVE RADIO.I thought it would be fun to add a few photos of my typical day at work. It crossed my mind today as to the crazy things we do to earn money for our families and if we are lucky earn money for our HOBBIES...A CLOSE UP OF THE TOWERS...THE ROAD IS ONE WAY UP AND ONE WAY DOWN. FUNNY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS WE HAVE NEVER BUMPED HEADS AND HAD TO BACK UP TO GET OUT OF THE WAY....TODAY I HAD TO GET A FLAT TIRE ON THE WAY DOWN AFTER WE WERE DONE. TO EXPLAIN HOW NARROW THE ROAD IS. MY JACK IS LOCATED UNDER THE PASSENGER SEAT. SO I HAD TO SHOVE THE TRUCK UP AGAINST THE MOUNTAIN SO I COULD HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO OPEN THE DOOR. THEN I HAD TO SHOVE THE TRUCK TO THE VERY EDGE SO I COULD REPLACE THE LEFT REAR TIRE....AFTER THIS WE STILL HAD TO GO TO ANOTHER MOUNTAIN TOP 2 HOURS AWAY. 1HR TO GET THERE AND 1 HOUR TO GO UP TO THE TOP...JUST ANOTHER TYPICAL DAY FOR A TELEMAN.... Anja 1 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
riverboat Posted June 12, 2013 #81 Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks for the tour Mario, it was a nice ride ..... I hope they give you hazardous pay too!! Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
mtaylor Posted June 12, 2013 #82 Posted June 12, 2013 Mario, Obviously a spectacular view. I think you deserve flight pay because of the altitude. Are they flying the towers in by chopper? I saw that they were doing that somewhere as it was cheaper to build 'em on the ground and then fly them up than to build them in place. Now all the stuff that goes with the tower.. manpower for sure. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted June 13, 2013 Author #83 Posted June 13, 2013 Thanks Frank, No hazzard pay but a very nice increase in pay... Thanks Mark, Not sure about the towers, these things are decades old. But my buddy who has 43yrs senority and still going strong, I'll ask him about that... Time for an update..... Anja 1 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted June 13, 2013 Author #84 Posted June 13, 2013 all questions and remarks are welcomr The hardest part of this portion of the build is fitting the deck planks around the frames... In Scott's practicum he has you placing trim pieces around those areas, but I decided to leave the area as is, it just look good to me... avsjerome2003, Anja and realworkingsailor 3 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
Anja Posted June 13, 2013 #85 Posted June 13, 2013 Hallo Mario, Nice job. Stern planking looks great. Take care, Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo
Jim Lad Posted June 13, 2013 #86 Posted June 13, 2013 Looking good, Mario. I like the look of the deck as it is. I would think that a waterway or trim piece might make it look a bit fancy for that type of boat. By the way, if you don't get flight pay, do you get danger money for the cliffs and snakes? John Quote
captainbob Posted June 13, 2013 #87 Posted June 13, 2013 Beautiful job, Mario. Don't know how you do it after those work hours. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
themadchemist Posted June 13, 2013 #88 Posted June 13, 2013 I've been in lurk mode so far. She's really looking great and the pictures of your work were appreciated. Looks like a scenic view from the movie True Grit (minus the trucks). She's a really interestingly shaped vessel. I can't wait to see how she end up. Will you be doing any diorama work with her? Thanks for sharing Mario. Quote
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted June 15, 2013 Author #89 Posted June 15, 2013 Thank You Everyone for your kind remarks! No John no hazzard Pay here. But 2 pension plans, nice income, my wife does not work because she does not have to, medical, dental, so not so bad. Hey Keith it is a beautiful area. We cover a big portion of the High Serras, known for some of the best trout fishing in the world. As for a diorama not this time. I finally added the cutwater so now I hope I won't keep getting confused with which end is what. Funny I keep doing that because the unique shape of the hull... here are some more pictures..... avsjerome2003 1 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted June 15, 2013 Author #90 Posted June 15, 2013 all remarks and questions welcomed tarbrush and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
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