HMS TERROR by Wahka_est - OcCre - 1:75 - first wooden ship build

[ObviousNewbie]

Indeed, that's an issue I'll be facing as well. Wanted to solve it like this (as described in the Mastini book): Dry fit a mast, tie a rope line on the approximate height of where the shroud finishes, and then use that line as a guide to mark the deadeyes on the buffer.I think as soon as you measure the first, you get a good idea of where the rest should go as the spacing of the deadeyes is a constant (please correct me if I'm wrong).

 

Issue 2 is then, how to determine the connection point from the deadeyes to their attachment points at the bottom of the buffer. You'l probably notice the ads lines do not run in the same direction as the line of the shroud.  I've seen a lot of different approaches to this, from just ignoring the plans and make the connections all straight, to following the shroud lines.  Still trying to figure this one out..

[druxey]

Usually the foremost deadeye is in line with the mast at the deck.

[Wahka_est]

Hi so the right location would be the blue line?

[Wahka_est]

Black coat is done. Overall im happy but masking tape wasnt glued to hull at all locations. So i have to remove color somehow. Will continiue with white paint soon.

Its still little shiny but will go more matt by tomorrow.

 

Also started looking into masts. At first it seems like a nightmare but instructions, after getting into them, are quite simple.

And offcourse working on small details to put in deck.

[Jeff-E]

Good progress my friend.

Are the wales going to be painted? If so you can just paint over where the paint bled under the masking tape.

And in answer to your question about the deadeyes, yes the blue line you have drawn is approximately where the first deadeye should be placed.

[Wahka_est]

Tnx!

Yes plan is to paint wales white and true it covers most parts of black paint.

Railings got some black on then also, will have to figure that out.

[Wahka_est]

Yesterday i received Caldercrat HMS Cruiser also. Looks like really nice build but with little different apporach than modern kits. No photo instrcutions etc. But litte into the drawings you finally understand how it goes together. Now i have too many (Admirals opinion) kits standing there. My opinion on this is that if i can get it cheap and i can sell it with a little higher price then let it stand there.

For next build im between Caldercraft Cruiser and Master Korabel Polotsk.

[Wahka_est]

Really happy with paintwork. Needs some repairs but other than that im super happy.

[ObviousNewbie]

Beautiful work! Love how the wood texture comes through the paint. I guess you decided not to go for the metal plating on the bow?

[Wahka_est]

Tnx!

 

Yes to be honest im nit sure if i should do that. I think it might ruin the apperance.

Also im not aiming for kit or historical accuracy.

[Wahka_est]

Have been focusing on fittings last couple of nights and also started masts.

plannis to prepare them as much as possible and then install them all to get that wow effect to myself.

 

As seen on photos i have some mistakes:

1) hole in the deck at front of the ship. No idea how to repair it. Thought maybe front mast will hide it a bit and put some barrels there or ropes.

2) Back of the ship some part got black and also no idea what to do. Only solution seems to paint it. Or then just leave it as worn out?

Pained part of deck black where hatch will be-seemed like a good idea.

 

Progress is slow but im most afraid of the rigging. Have recived few books on that so lets hope for the best.

I see that quality for first build isnt the best. Trying to do my best but i accepted it as learning progress. Next ship will be Caldercraft HMS Cruiser of Master Korabel Polotsk.

[Jeff-E]

Hi Wahka,

Your fittings are looking good. As for your mistakes, is the hole in the deck at the bow you are referring to the elongated hole in front of the hole for the foremast? If so I think that is the mounting hole for the bowsprit and is meant to be there.

With the paint you could try scraping it off carefully with a sharp scalpel or as you say just leave it as normal wear. 

 

[Wahka_est]

Little progress:

1) allmost done with captains cabin windows. Painted and will remove tapes tomorrow. Probably some minor repairs with paint still to come. 
Used Revell email color here. First test was much more lighter but i like the shine-creates glass like look.

 

2) working on main mast. Changed Occre brown ropes to black ones-have some benefits as father has sewing machines company. Ropes look really nice dark black and isnt hairy as Occres. Also accoring to instruction its supposed to be black.

 

3) varnised some part of hull to see how its looking. Also sanded it with grit 800. Thats the reason why its little gray.

 

4) keel has brass glued. Apparently CA came loose few times. I think problem was that i didnt sand the surface. After installing keel(probably next time) i can move on to deck.

[Wahka_est]

Captains cabin done. Its quite blue but i like it-lets say its dark waters that reflect from window.

 

Now its the keel left, then varnish and off to small details that i have prepared a bit allready. Good thing with deck details is that you see constant progress as the details are getting put to place and that motivates a lot. Same as planking when the ship is taking its form.

 

Not bad for a beginner captain i would say. Even Admiral is pleased allthough i spend most of evening hours behind desk:).

[Wahka_est]

Didnt feel like doing woodwork today so focused on bottom of foremast. 

I fix the ropes with pva. But i dont cut the ends before its dryed.

Also did my first deadeye today. Didnt follow the instruction where rope was put separately on mast and deadeye but left little more rope hanging from mast and then tied it to rope-that was a challenge. 
Need to do some investment to have that clamp for miniature works with plyers.

but im proud of how it looks. Im not sure if i got it right -checked all the books and i think it should be like that.

Is it correct?

 

Also started deadeyes for wale(correct term?). Will paint them black and trying different colors how they attatch etc. Issue i see is that they should be wood (smaller are) but those 5mm are plastic. With wood the solution would be ebony stay pluss brass blackening for tread. So probably i might order wooden ones from Cornwall.

 

So investments coming:

1) wooden deadeyes

2) small working clamp with magnifier

3) birchwood brass black(ordered, was hard to get to Europe, gunshops in Estoni said they dont have something similar)

4) plyers for rigging

 

Also allmost all books have now arrived what i have ordered-im so called young oldschool and like to have it on paper instead of articles on computer.

[Wahka_est]

Spent so many nights doing small details.

Now installed them in 1 hour-dont remember when been so happy recently with outcome :).
 

Dryfited masts. Keel has sime details missing but not many.

 

Hull is varnished.

 

All stains, paints and varnishes are Admiralty except windows blue thats Revell.

 

[Wahka_est]

Started also second blong for Caldercraft Hms Cruiser. Will get that more going also soon-negotiations with Admiral are ongoing at the moment regarding sanding... she suggested balcony....its winter...

Recived package from Cornwall.
Really nice deadeyes compared to Occres plastic ones. picture shows left Occre, middle Caldercraft and right Caldercraft that are stained with ebony(also Caldercraft).

 

Occres instructions are missleading. Saying most of deadeyes are 4mm but on photo they have clearly most 5mm ones.

 

Received Birchwood brass black today and did some testing on metal parts. Outcome isnt what i hoped for but i thinknits me cause other members are getting beautiful results. So its more testing until outcome is right.
 

Other than that build in going nicely. Some reason sapelly wood is out so i have to use wood from other kits to finish last deck fittings. Last fitting to be done and installed on deck. Then i varnish it all.

 

Question-do you varnish ropes or only that part that is on wood and gets covered by brush. Do you cover ropes with something at all?

 

 

[NovaStorm]

Enjoying watching your Terror come together. Your doing a great job

[Wahka_est]

14 hours ago, NovaStorm said:

Enjoying watching your Terror come together. Your doing a great job

Thank you!

Nice to have some audience watching:).

i know its not even close to the craftmenship of other builder but like i have said before-not bad for first time. Read a quote yesterday here, was something like “first build is all about learning”.

[Wahka_est]

Hi all.

 

Got some more details done on deck. Cause is installed railing a little offset(instructions didnt show how it mish be placed) then had to add 2x2 exta wood behind the pins at railing.

Deck details are so small, have to find a way to do them better in future builds.

 

Occre photo instructions are nice but there are so many blind corners and beck plan does not have any other instructions but location of pieces.

Every night i find some new small detail that has to be installed that i have missed. Easier would be to donit according to packing list and cross down whats installed-maybe everyone else is doing it like that?

[VTHokiEE]

8 minutes ago, Wahka_est said:

i know its not even close to the craftmenship of other builder

Looks really nice to me! I’m amazed how quickly you seem to be working through this. Nicely done!

[NovaStorm]

The furniture and fittings look great. Nice neat work especially at this scale

[Wahka_est]

4 minutes ago, VTHokiEE said:

Looks really nice to me! I’m amazed how quickly you seem to be working through this. Nicely done!

Maybe it is quick-i used to work every evening. Usually from 22pm until 1-2 am. 4-5 hour sleep and off to work.

Cause i have 2 y old son then its impossible to build something when he is awake

I really hopw to finish it bu summer but taken into account i also starter Caldercraft Hms Cruiser then it wont probably happen....unless im secretly master rigger :D.

[JeffT]

Your model looks great! Don't sell yourself short 🙂

[ObviousNewbie]

For what it's worth, you're an inspiration and a big help 🙂  As we're tackling the same model and you're way ahead of me (still removing nails to start sanding her down and filling gaps on the first layer of planking), you're a bit of a trailblazer. Thnx again!

[James H]

Very nice work so far, and your first model too 

[Wahka_est]

11 hours ago, ObviousNewbie said:

For what it's worth, you're an inspiration and a big help 🙂  As we're tackling the same model and you're way ahead of me (still removing nails to start sanding her down and filling gaps on the first layer of planking), you're a bit of a trailblazer. Thnx again!

Thank you!

Looking forward you catching me. Let me know if you need any help.

[Wahka_est]

10 hours ago, James H said:

Very nice work so far, and your first model too 

Thank you-its a big thing if professionals give kind words!

[James H]

24 minutes ago, Wahka_est said:

Thank you-its a big thing if professionals give kind words!

Haha! I'm certainly not a professional! But thanks anyway.

[Wahka_est]

Was working on details and noticed hull was somehow grey....decided to paint it. Thought maybe there was a problem with vanish. New paint coat is better. Then when painting i messed it up so white prts got black on them etc. Got so pissed and painted again...then put my fingers on to wet paint...got even madder... fixed those places...then covered somehow myself with paint....got so mad that stopped for tonight and decided to leave the hull for few days otherwise i would attack it...

 

Can i leave hull just painted and not varnished? Theres allready 2 layers of varnish also under new paint...