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I am nearly speechless! ... So this is how a ship is constructed eh? This is a marvelous learning tool and beautiful to watch develop, step by step... your attention to details makes me look like I model with an axe, a sledge and a meat cleaver.

I need to read it about 3 more times to 'begin' to get it.

Thanks... this one is gonna be fun!

 

Randy

Posted

I was going to say looks like you were having "a whale of a time", but that is far to cheesy. But the final result just looks right, not black, but dark enough, but you can still see the fixings. As one of my young trainees at work said after I had showed him the effects of the "Faraday cage" to him,"You is the Man", well Ed I think that mantle is yours "You is the MAN"

All the best

Martin. 

" LIFE IS NOT A DVD YOU CANNOT REPLAY IT, ENJOY IT WHILE YOU CAN"

Posted

Ed, I think the contrast in color looks fantastic and it appears you have achieved your goal to have the grain of the wood and nails to show through the dark color of the wood. I like!

 

 

 

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 93 – Vent Scuttles –Wale Finish

Posted 8/8/11

Cheers, Guy
The Learner
Current Member NRG,SMA

 

Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line

 

 

 

Posted (edited)

Thank you all for the comments.

 

Greg, the clamps are just a variation of the simpler two-screw type shown earlier made with Castello and 6-32 threaded rod.  I dded reinforcement on the backs of the first, thiiner legs after breaking a couple.  On the Euro Boxwood paint, you had me going for a minute.  Its not a paint but a species of wood - European Boxwood aka English boxwood - sp.  buxus sempervirens - or just plain boxwood, although Castello, a tropical species,  has co-opted that name to a large extent. They are not the same.

 

More on that in the next repost, which I will do now, considering your question and the great comments.

 

Ed

Edited by EdT
Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 94 – Outside Planking 1

Posted 8/26/11

 

The first picture shows the model at the stage we left off in Part 93.  The wale is finished and I was contemplating starting the exterior planking on this side above the rail. 

 

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I would like to get the planking finished up to above the ports so the port lid stops can be done before doing the upper deck spirketing.  The spriketting goes over the stops.

 

The first step was the most difficult.  In the next picture I am about to cut into the last of two beautiful pieces of European Boxwood, buxus sempervirens , that I bought in the 1970’s.  Cutting this was painful.

 

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These pieces were virtually perfect with no imperfections or discoloration.  If anyone knows where I can get more like this one, let me know.  I wanted to use this for the yellow of the external planking, but also for other exposed rails, details, etc.  I used the first one of these on Victory and for other things, tools, etc.

 

The next picture shows the first strake above the black strake partly installed.  The dark yellow is still wet from washing off the glue.

 

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This is where I miss using ebony for the wale.  The finishing of this strake is almost impossible to do without marring the black finish on the top corner of the black strake.

 

The next picture shows the full hull at this stage.

 

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This is one of those rare moments when everything was cleaned up and uncluttered.

 

The picture below shows the planking rising up around the lower deck ports.

 

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In this picture the bolting has begun.  There are several large, 1 3/8” bolts in slanting rows for the internal riders.  There are also smaller, 1” bolts at the end of each plank.  The plan is to do the bolts first, then fill in the rest with the treenails.

 

Below is another picture taken at this stage.

 

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There is still some leveling of these top strakes to be done.  These pictures help me find things that I don’t see as readily with my eyes – like that slightly  protruding plank just aft of the right hand port in this picture.  This picture also shows the planking cut out at the bottom of one of the sweepports.

 

The next picture shows some more bolting and some of the first treenailing.

 

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There are three bolts through the side on each side of each gun port.  The pairs closest to the opening are large bolts for the breeching eyebolts and the next two, one through each of the next frames are for the training tackle eyebolts.  These will not go all the way through on the model.  The treenails in this picture are added to supplement the bolts, so the pattern is a bit random.

 

The last picture shows some treenails installed further forward. 

 

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These have not been filed down as yet.  Holes are drilled for the lowest strake but no nails yet.  The treenails .019” about 1 1/8”.

 

All these close up pictures show some distortion that makes their centers bulge a bit.

 

Work has been slow for the past couple weeks, but I’m hoping to up the pace a bit in the next two weeks.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 95 – Outside Planking 2

Posted 9/1/11

 

Planking on the starboard side of the hull continued this week.  The first picture shows pieces between the ports clamped during gluing.  Planks are 3 ½” thick at this level.

 

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The planking in the waist area is now getting close enough to the topside to allow normal screw clamps to be used.  The planks are being glued in with darkened glue and before being ripped off a wide strip one side of that strip was given a coat of light brown acrylic paint to help highlight the joints.

 

The next picture shows progress up to a few days ago.

 

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In the next picture the excess ends of the planks are being removed with a #0 Barrette file.  This does not cut on its edges.

 

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The next picture is a close up of the current state.  The planks have been leveled off and given a preliminary sanding.  Final sanding and polishing will await the treenailing.

 

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The black bolts in the strake above the black strake are mostly bolts for the lodging knees of the upper deck, which runs at the same height as this strake in the midship area, dropping down below it as the ends are approached and the curve of the sheer becomes higher than the curve of the upper deck.  The two larger bolts in the center of the picture go into and through the internal riders.  The lighter fasteners are .019 inch bamboo treenails.

 

The chamfered corners of the top planking pieces in this picture will seat areas of increased width in the next plank up, as was done on some of the planks below the ports.  In general, this was done wherever the cut out plank width would have left less than half the original width.

 

The waist rail, a molded decorative rail will eventually be installed along the center of these ports – approximately at the height of the plank just above the sweep port in the picture.

 

The next picture is a close up from above the side at the waist.

 

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The last two planks up in this area, not installed yet, will be thicker and joined at their ends with hook scarph joints.  They will Take the external planking up to the level of the strings and tops of the frames in the waist area.

 

The last picture shows the whole hull in its present state.

 

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Cheers,

 

Ed

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 96 – Outside Planking 3

 

While the remaining planking was getting installed, I started installing bolts.  My process here is to install all the bolts first, then go back and do the treenails.  In some cases the bolts will be placed so that some treenails are not needed.  The picture below shows an area with the bolting installed.

 

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All the closeups have lens distortion.  Believe me that line of frames at the top is not curved up.  In this picture there are a few different bolts.  The double row at the bottom of the boxwood planking is for the lodging knees of the upper deck.  The two rows of four large bolts each slanting up to the right are for the internal riders.  On either side of each gun port there are three bolts, which on the inside will be eyebolts, a large bolt for the breeching, a smaller one on further out on either side for the training tackle and a smaller one above the breeching bolts for trussing the gun up.  In addition there is one bolt at the butt of each plank, except for the short planks between the ports.

 

In the next picture the highest strake above the ports is being fit up.

 

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The two strakes aft of the quarter gallery door have yet to be installed.  After this plank is installed the opening will be filed up to the top sill.

 

In the next picture one of the last bow pieces is being shaped to a curve using the shaft of a small soldering iron to heat the concave side.

 

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For this thin boxwood planking this is much faster than steaming, which is the approach I have been using on the thicker structural pieces or where some edge bending is needed.  This piece will fit above the bridle port and port number one.

 

The next picture shows it in place.

 

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This is the last strake for now.  It fits right up under the knighthead and is flush with its forward face.  It was nice that this strake just fit.  There is still some finishing work to be done to clean up the stem and the ends of some of the planks.  The hawse holes were roughed out before these planks were installed, drilled with a smaller drill then filed open parallel to the keel with a slight downward slant..  they are not finished, but I wanted to get a hole through the planking.

 

In the next picture the drilling for the treenails is in progress.

 

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More distortion. The pattern here is alternating between two nails and one nail in each frame along the plank with the pattern offset for adjoining strakes.  The bolting prevents the pattern from being completely uniform, but I suspect that was pretty much the result on the prototype.

 

The next picture shows the planking for this phase all installed, except for treenailing and some bolting.

 

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The next picture is just another view.

 

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These last wo pictures are pretty representative of the true colors of the different woods.

 

After finishing the treenails – or maybe sooner – I will be returning to the inside work.

 

Ed

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 97 – Port Stops

Posted 9/10/11

 

The treenailing and bolting of the seven strakes of planking above the black strake was completed this week.  The next three pictures show that stage of completion.

 

 

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The purpose of doing this outside planking was to be able to install the port stops – the window frames, if you will, on the sides and bottom of the port framing.  These will be discussed below.  In the above picture the hawse holes are only roughed in. They still need to be sized and lined.

 

 

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This picture shows some typical bolting and treenailing.  The lowest yellow strake is loaded – with both treenails and bolts for the lodging knees of the upper deck, which still have to be installed on the inside.

 

The next picture is a close up of this area.

 

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I mentioned before that the treenails are about 1 ¼ inch.  There are also 1 3/8 and 1 ¼ inch bolts.  The pin holes above the top strake are left from the temporary ribbands that were removed earlier.  They are at the level of the sheer strake and sheer rail.

 

In the next picture the horizontal port stops have been installed.

 

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These lay flat on the sill and their outside edges are at the inside face of the planking.  Their insides were oversized and get cut off flush with the inside of the frames.  The next picture shows the inside being finished off flush after the side stops were installed.

 

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I knew when I put the riders in that I was creating a future headache for myself, but they really needed to go in before the upper deck beams and knees, even though it would mean slipping planking behind them.  It also presented a problem in facing off the stops.  The first step was to pare these back using  a chisel and a curve-bladed scorp – not shown.  This was followed by filing flush using the bent-handled file, as shown above.  This all went surprisingly quickly.  We’ll see how the internal plankng goes.  The notches in the upper deck clamps are the openings for the lower deck ventilation scuttles.

 

The next picture shows some stops after facing the insides.

 

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These stops are 2 inches thick and are placed on the bottom sill and the two sides.  They serve to stop the closure of the port lids and probably were fitted with oakum or some kind of gasketing to keep the water out.  The ones for the sweep ports are 1 inch thick.

 

The next picture shows the inside after the stops were faced off.

 

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The next major task in here, after installing the remaining few standards, will be to install the upper deck beams followed by the waterways and spirketing, which will go right up to the top of the lower sills.  With that done the scuppers can be drilled out and lined.

 

The next picture just shows a few of each type of port finished off.

 

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The boxwood has been sanded pretty well at this stage – up to 400 grit.  No other finish will be applied to this until all the rails and other external fittings are installed – the steps, the scuppers, the fenders, chesstrees, etc.  – way down the road.

 

 

Ed

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 98 – The Lower Counter

Posted 9/13/11

 

I doubt this part will generate as much interest as part 97 on the lid stops, but who knows.  Before getting to the lower counter framing and planking I finished up a couple of loose ends on the lower deck.  The first picture shows one of the iron standard knees in the area of the officers cabins, before bolting. 

 

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The knee is copper blackened with liver of sulfur solution.  It rests on a “shole” on top of the decking, which is curved on its underside to fit the waterway.  The large timber to the right is a top rider and the notch to the left is a roughed opening for a ventilation scuttle.  These were covered earlier. 

 

The next picture shows the first steps in framing the lower counter and also the starboard straps on the lower ends of the counter timbers – also installed at this time.

 

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First the sides of the ports were framed.  The helm port opening between the upper deck transom and the seat transom was filled in with blocking shaped to the counter timbers and the helm opening.  Below the upper deck transom the port is also blocked out to bed the counter planking around the helm port at this level.  The tiller will pass beneath the upper deck transom and upper deck beams and above the head of the sternpost.  The tiller and its apparatus will need to be installed with the deck beams so this work had to be done at this time.

 

The next picture shows this framing from the outside.

 

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And the next picture shows it from aft.  It is still pretty rough.

 

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The filling pieces around the helm port are somewhat speculative, but it is likely that chocks perhaps like these were used.  The planks needed to be bedded right up to the opening.  This picture also shows the framing of the lower deck ports that penetrate the lower counter.

 

The next picture shows the first of the lower counter planking being installed.  This will be done on the starboard side only, in keeping with the model’s format, which exposes the framing on the port side.

 

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The next picture shows this planking well along – essentially finished.

 

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The planking lines on the lower counter are not parallel because the round up and round aft of the wing transom is roughly half that of the touch of the lower counter.  So, the counter is broader at the center by 4 or 5 inches, requiring the planks to be slightly tapered at the outer ends.  The uppermost plank has its top edge right on the touch of the lower counter and it is modelled the full breadth.  A decorative molding will seat against this and be the base for the planking of the upper counter above it.

 

The next picture shows another view..

 

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Before doing this planking the shapes of the counter timbers, particularly the pointed touch points were checked carefully against the drawings.  Once the exact touch points were marked, the counter shapes were given a final adjustment with a file and the planking was then brought right up to the lower counter touch line.  The upper counter has the same round up and aft as the lower, so that band will have parallel strakes.  The round up of the tafrail is more pronounced than the upper counter. That will come later, but all the points were checked at this stage. 

 

The last picture is another view.

 

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The darker area is moisture from washing off the excess glue.  When the glue has set, the pins will be removed, the excess cut off this near side and the planks bolted and treenailed. 

 

 

Ed

Posted

These pieces were virtually perfect with no imperfections or discoloration.  If anyone knows where I can get more like this one, let me know. 

 

You could try an instrument maker. I got a banana box full of cut offs from a flute maker. I should have taken a picture of all the pieces he had in his stock to turn flutes from. That's was one to admire..... He got his from France from an old castle garden, he told me there is still plenty of box to go around...

 

 

Remco

Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. 

Current build HMS Kingfisher

 

MSW 1.0 log click here

Posted

Thanks, Remco. Problem is, we don't have too many old castle gardens over here in the new world - or wood instrument makers for that matter. It would be nice to find a supplier, however.

 

Ed

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 99 – The Rudder 1

Posted 10/2/11

 

 

It has been a while since the last update. We took some vacation time, but the work has also been time consuming for what appears to be small progress. In the last part the framing and planking of the lower counter was completed in preparation for installation of the rudder. The plan is to install this and its operating mechanism concurrently with the installation of the upper deck beams. I had not done the drafting needed for all this, so some time was taken for that.

 

The first picture shows the main timbers of the rudder cut out and their joints machined.

 

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The joints were cut on the milling machine, straightforward work except that the joints need to be placed to avoid having some pieces too thin, especially around the cut outs for the pintles. Three pieces were used for the main section and are shown above. The two to the left are parallel to the aft edge and the one to the right will be tapered on its fore edge. There is also a thin strip on the aft face and a bottom piece.

 

The next picture shows the rudder after its forward face was bearded back to clear its rotation and after tapering.

 

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Before bearding the rudder was sanded down to its maximum breadth on the thickness sander. The bearding of the front face was then done. Both the post and the rudder have bearded edges, cut about 6 inches or so back on the side faces to allow the rudder rotation. With this done the rudder could be tapered. This was done by sanding, initially on a belt sander and then as shown in the above picture on flat panel covered with 120 to 220 grit paper.

 

The next picture shows the top pintle being fitted.

 

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There are six of these of increasing length going down. There were originally made of “mixt metal”, a bronze type of alloy. I used copper as I have done for all the copper bearing fittings. This picture also shows the transition from the bearded section to the squared off top. The hances on the aft face will be shaped later.

 

The next pictures show the way the pintles fittings were fabricated. The first shows a rough piece set up for silver soldering the pintle to the bracket.

 

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The square U-shaped section shown in the picture was cut from a sheet on the circular saw using a thin slotting cutter blade. It was then bent to fit tightly around the rudder and cut roughly to length. A slot to fit the pintle itself was then filed in the end and a copper rod of the correct size fit into the slot. In this picture the rod is forced down into the refractory surface to hold it in place. The bracket is held in place with the piece of steel barstock. A small amount of solder/flux paste has been applied at the joint and all that is needed now is the torch.

 

In the next picture the bracket is being filed to shape.

 

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As each piece was finished it was fit to the rudder and the rudder fit into the gudgeons, one at a time, so that when all six were made they would fit accurately into their mating fittings and allow smooth rotation of the rudder. They were then marked for drilling the bolt holes.

 

The next picture shows all the pintle brackets made and temporarily fit to the rudder.

 

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After drilling with a number 74 drill, they were be-burred, filed smooth and polished.

 

The next picture shows a fit up of the rudder to the post with all the brackets.

 

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These still need minor adjustment and it is obvious in this picture that they are not yet aligned. When this is done they will all be perpendicular to the forward face of the rudder. As these were being fit the opening of the helm port was adjusted to give full range of rudder movement. In this picture the stern post is showing the effects of my dirty hands from the metalworking. This will of course be cleaned up.

 

There is additional metalwork to be made and installed, the spectacle plate, one or two reinforcing straps and a number of straps around the top. There are also the two tiller holes to be cut. Those are the next chores on the agenda. When all these pieces are made and fitted, the rudder will be polished up and all these fittings chemically darkened and bolted on.

 

 

Ed

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 100 – The Rudder 2

Posted 10/6/11

 

 

In the last part the pintles had been fabricated and test fit. The next picture shows additional work done on the rudder.

 

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Three iron hoops at the top have been made and fit to the head of the rudder right after they were silver soldered and pickled in vinegar – hence the color. The hances were also formed and the notch cut for the wood chock under the top pintle to keep the rudder from being unseated.

 

The next picture shows the fabricated spectacle plate for the chain preventers.

 

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All the iron and bronze work was made in copper as described earlier.

 

The next picture shows the finished rudder.

 

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The fittings above the waterline were iron and below “mixt metal”- bronze. All the parts were colored with liver of sulfur solution– basically potassium sulfide. The lower fittings were cleaned off with water right after the application of the solution to give them just a brown “bronzy” patina. The parts at the top were treated until black, with the same solution strength but allowing more time.

 

I decided to try something new with this. I mentioned that the sulfur solution does not effect the wood, so rather than coloring the parts before installing, all the coloring was done after the polished copper parts were fastened on with the copper bolts. After installing the bolts and buffing them with a fine Scotchbrite pad they were washed off with acetone. When dry the parts were brushed with the sulfur solution and when the desired color was reached the solution was washed off with water. This allowed the fittings and the bolts to get to the same color and avoided bright spots and scratches from the installation and bolting.

 

This worked quite well. It is much easier to do the nailing before the nails are treated. The bolts were made from a length drawn copper wire, clipped sharp at the end, pushed all the way into a tight hole with pliers, clipped off just above the surface then peened down with a hammer

 

The next picture shows the rudder in place.

 

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As mentioned earlier, the rudder has been adjusted downward so the bottom is now at the height of the top of the false keel.

 

The next picture shows the rudder from directly astern. The tiller has been inserted in this picture.

 

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That small piece of wood in the lower left part of the picture is the retaining chock. The next picture shows a close up view with this chock inserted below the top pintle.

 

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The tiller is held in place with two long fore and aft bolts through the rudder on either side of the tiller mortise. The head of one can be seen in this picture. The bolts are long and fasten to a fitting several feet forward on the tiller. This allowed the tiller to rock up and down as it swung to either side so it would stay engaged on the sweep without binding. These bolts will be installed later when the tiller is permanently fixed. Holes have been drilled in the fore side of the rudder where these will be inserted.

 

The next picture shows the tiller on the interior.

 

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Note the second square tiller hole above the upper deck transom. This was an emergency provision, which would allow a second tiller to be fitted if needed.

 

The tiller will be just below the upper deck beams and its forward end will be vertically restrained in a track-like “sweep” – an arc of wood bolted to the bottom of the beams. This is a fairly complicated device and I will not attempt to describe it until later when it is made. The sweep is horizontal. Given that the axis of rotation of the rudder is not vertical and that the tiller will be angled down at its forward end to match the sheer of the deck, it is easy to see why a joint at the rudder that allows up and down rocking is necessary. If this is not clear, it will be later when the sweep is installed.

 

The next steps will be to make and fit the tiller hardware and permanently install it and the rudder before going on the upper deck beams,

 

Ed

Posted

OK.  A milestone.  The first 100 parts reposted.  77 to go and we can get back to real time.

 

Ed

Posted

Well done Ed, It is great to go through it again with you.

Martin.

" LIFE IS NOT A DVD YOU CANNOT REPLAY IT, ENJOY IT WHILE YOU CAN"

Posted

Ed, I've been missing the "real time"

Maury

Posted (edited)

Congrats Ed! One hundred!

 

Must be a "Titanic" effort for you to rebuild your log but it is a HUGE inspiration for all of us. If I am here on MSW is in someway because your build log. I remember the first time I saw it back in 2011 and it trapped me.

 

THANK YOU Sir.

 

 

Daniel.

Edited by harvey1847
Posted

Daniel, thank you so much for this comment.

 

Reposting the log is fairly easy, since I saved all the text and the pictures for each in separarte folders.  It only requires editing some text formats, reloading the pictures and placing them in the text.  Doing more than a few at a time is, however, tedious.  I am looking forward to finishing the task soon and posting the final work on the model, which is almost complete.

 

Thanks, again.

 

Ed

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 101 – Making Upper Deck Beams

Posted 10/6/11

 

At the end of the last part I was planning on doing the tiller and sweep next, but before any of this can be installed the upper deck beams need to be made, detailed and set up in place so I decided instead to tackle the large job of making and detailing the upper deck beams.

 

But before getting into that I did a bit of rework on the rudder spectacle plate to bring it to a more typical shape.  This is shown in the first picture.

 

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The original version was taken from White’s AOS book on Diana and had the eyes on extended arms.  This arrangement is more conventional.

 

So, on to the deck beams.  Like the lower deck beams, these were made in two pieces with a long vertical tabled scarf joining them at the center.  The next picture shows the tables cut into 2” wide blanks surfaced to the width of the beams, 13 inches.  When these pieces are joined, the beams will be rounded up and cut from these.

 

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The tables are each 15 inches long and 3 inches deep.  Nine tables make up the 11’3” length of the joint.  It is a slightly simplified arrangement to facilitate the machining.

 

The next picture shows the milling machine set up for cutting the joint configuration. 

 

 

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The angle of the scarph is roughly 5 degrees (actually 4.75) so for a milling table length, in this case, of 10 inches, one end needs to be elevated 0.8 inches (actually .83).  That was done using the wood block cut to that size.  This setup is very rigid.  The angle was tested first by traversing the cutter.  It leaves a 2” lip at the end and just skims the surface at the beginning of the joint as shown in the picture.

 

The next picture shows a joint being cut.

 

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The 15” table length allows a ¼” cutter to be used – not a coincidence.  After each cut the position of the cutter is reset using the mill calibration wheels giving very accurate dimensioning.  The next picture shows the fit up of two of these wide pieces.

 

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The initial fit is very tight so the sides of the tables are given a few passes with a file so the pieces slide easily together and leave enough clearance for the glue joint to show.  When the pieces are glued up the next step was to cut the round up on one edge.  This was done using the curved jig shown below.

 

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The blank was clamped as shown into the jig and the surface rounded off using an edge trimmer in the router.  The bearing on this bit rides on the pattern and the cutter duplicates the curve.  This is the same jig used for the lower deck beams but has been re shaped to the larger round up of the upper deck.

 

The next picture shows how this jig was shaped – also using the router table.

 

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I have a pattern for the round up, but I do not trust my eyesight to shape this manually, especially since it will be used for 25 plus beams.  Also the pattern the pattern from the drawing is only the length of the beam and I like to have excess in the rough beam length.  The picture above shows one half of the jig attached to a length of 2X4, which acts as a radius arm.  The other end is pinned at the radius of curvature of the round up, which is calculated for the 7” round up to be 52 real inches (263 scale feet).  Moving the router bit into range allows this curvature to be cut very accurately.  The second half of the jig is then attached to the first and its shape duplicated.

 

When the curve was cut on the edge of the blank the first beam thickness was marked and the beam cut off on the scroll saw, freehand, as shown below.

 

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After parting off, the underside of the beam was sanded to the final depth of 11 inches using the thickness sander.  The next picture shows the result of two afternoons of work.

 

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This process produces identical, rounded up, scarphed beams that can then be cut to length and fit into position.

 

There is still a lot of work to be done on these – bolting, fitting of the knees, etc. The next step will be to finish the tops of the clamps, which were installed earlier.

 

Ed

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 102 – Making Upper Deck Beams 2

Posted 10/18/11

 

The next step after making the rounded up beams, was to set them on the clamps.  The first picture shows this in progress.

 

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To get the beams into position, some of the top riders had to be removed on one side.  I decided to remove these from the port side, since that side will be planked internally and the riders, in addition to blocking the setting of the beams, would also have made the planking more of a chore.  In this picture some are removed.  The rest will also be coming out.

 

Shallow notches were cut into the clamps to seat the beams at their ends.  When all the beams were set and pinned into position a wire was stretched tightly along the centerline of the deck and each beam marked in its center.  The aft end of this wire is shown in the next picture.

 

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The rudder and tiller are still only temporarily positioned in this picture.  After marking the centerline on the beams the wire was removed.

 

Next the seats for the carlings were cut into all the beams.  The next picture shows the locations of the carlings being marked on each side of each beam.

 

 

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There are about 100 ordinary carlings on this deck, requiring twice that many joints to be cut.  Marking one side of each seat with the beams in position using a straightedge helps assure the lines of the carlings will be straight.  There are three tiers in the midship area diminishing to two at the ends.

 

The beams were then individually removed and the seats marked out and cut into each one with a small chisel.  The next picture shows one of these after cutting the joints – and the chisel.

 

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Only seats for the ordinary carlings were cut at this stage.  There are a number of larger special purpose carlings that will be cut next, but it seemed easier to focus on just one size first.  After cutting the joints in each beam it was given a sanding with 220 grit paper for smoothing to remove all the pencil marks.  Each was then renumbered and returned to its position.

 

The last two pictures show the beams in place with the carling scores cut.

 

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The lodging and hanging knees for this deck will feature a lot of ironwork, a combination of plain iron knees such as the few lower deck standards installed earlier, and Roberts plate knees.  Use of iron was becoming more commonplace by this period.  There will be a number of wooden knees as well.  The installation sequence necessary to get all these knees in and bolted is still being worked out.  In general the method followed for the lower deck beams, of pre installing the knees before setting the beams, will be used.

 

The last picture shows the full set of beams set in place.

 

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The next step will be to remove each beam, cut the remaining special carling seats and install the bolts through the scarphed joints.

 

 

Ed

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 103 – Beam #29

Posted 10/18/11

 

 

I knew I was letting myself in for a lot of work and some uncharted territory when I decided to model ironwork knees on the upper deck beams.  There are two basic types with a number of variants.  First there are ordinary iron knees of the type shown previously where they were used for the lower deck standards in the officers’ cabins.  There will also be Roberts plate knees – I hope.

 

Making the ordinary iron knees is fairly straightforward.  They are formed from copper strip cut to size on a circular saw, then bent, tapered, drilled for bolts and polished.  The picture below shows two of these on the aftermost beam - #29.  There are also two iron hanging knees on this beam, but are not visible in this picture.

 

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Beam  #29, the first upper deck beam to be installed, was a test case for the installation sequence, which is a bit complicated, mostly due to the bolting issues.

 

The next picture shows a closer view of the iron knees after the first series of steps. 

 

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All four knees are permanently nailed to the beam at this stage, but the beam is still loose in its position on the clamps.  The filling piece behind the lodging knee is temporarily in place so the knee’s bolt holes can be marked on it. It was then removed and the holes drilled for the bolts.  When possible these holes will be drilled in place so the bolts can be directed through the frames.  These holes are smaller than those in the knees.  The holes for the hanging knees were also marked on the clamp and drilled with the beam removed.

 

The next picture shows the full beam assembly in position. 

 

 

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After drilling the filling pieces were glued in and the beam was glued to the clamps.  Bolts of drawn 22 gauge copper wire were then pushed through the knees with pliers as far as they would go.  The bolt was then clipped off just above the surface of the knee and tapped with a hammer to drive it tight, expand it in the hole in the knee and peen the top. 

 

The tiller sweep is shown in this picture lying on the top of the beams.  It will be secured under these beams after they are installed.  I will discuss making this sweep in the next part.

 

The next picture shows the port side knees at this stage.

 

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All this work was done before blackening because all these operations will scratch the metal and leave bare spots.

 

The next picture was taken after blackening the copper with liver of sulfur solution in place. 

 

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The filling piece will be trimmed back to be flush with the tops of the beams. 

 

And the next picture shows the entire beam permanently installed.

 

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This sequence seems to work effectively so it will be used for all the beams of this type, working from the ends toward midship.  I may need to make a small hammer to drive the bolts on the hanging knees under the beams.

 

Copper is being used for these parts because it can be blackened in place without staining the wood.  It is easy to cut, shape and polish but because it is soft it can be hard on the #71 drill bits, which I am now buying by the dozen.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

Posted

Edt,

 

   The beams are looking beautiful. Maybe you could show how you are going to make the small hammer to drive the bolts into the beams with. Keep the pictures coming.

Wacko

Joe :D

 

Go MSW :) :)

Posted

 I am looking forward to finishing the task soon and posting the final work on the model, which is almost complete.

 

Teasing us now Ed,    ;)

Martin.

" LIFE IS NOT A DVD YOU CANNOT REPLAY IT, ENJOY IT WHILE YOU CAN"

Posted

Hi Ed,

 

I am enjoying rereading this log and finding all the additional 'stuff' my poor little brain did not absorb first time around.  Earlier you showed your technique for 'freehand' cutting the curved beams on your scroll saw.  Did you leave a bit of 'meat' to be sanded off or have your skills advanced to the point you can follow the line very closely?  I am interested in your technique of first milling the mortices, but with my skills I would butcher most beams if I cut too close to the line.

 

I find that reading this online additional pictorial info really adds to your excellent book; makes things a little easier to understand in some places.

 

Thanks again for rebuilding this log, I can fully appreciated the time and effort this is taking.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

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Posted

Thank you for these comments.  They are well appreciated as always.

 

Wacko, its easy to make a little hammer.  Its the little hand that is difficult.

 

Martin, I really am looking forward to posting the new progress.  Getting those postings up has been one of the drivers that has kept my nose to the grindstone.

 

Pat, I tried to mechanize the fabrication of beams as much as possible to remove the skill factor from the finished product and to save time.  So, cutting the tables in the scarfed joints - so they will actually fit together -  is left almost completely in the hands of the calibration wheels on the mill.  The beam curvature is set by the jig with the round up built into its face.  The less importent curve on the bottom of the beam is accurately sanded based on the top curve using the thickness sander.  The scroll saw cut of the bottom curve is just cut close enough to the line to allow the thickness sander to finish the job on all the beams at one setting.  In any case, the curve of the lower face,  if done by hand in the absence of a thickness sander, is not that critical - or that visible.  The top face is the one to worry about, since it has to be fair for the deck planking.

Posted

1:60 HMS Naiad 1797

Part 104 – Tiller and Sweep

Posted 10/24/11

 

Before installing the upper deck beams aft of the mizzen mast, the tiller and its sweep mechanism needed to be made so all this could be installed together in some way – as yet undetermined.  The first picture shows the curve of the sweep cut out of a thick Castello block.

 

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This was then sanded to the pattern on the disk sander and curved strips to make the sweep were sliced off on the circular saw as shown below.

 

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The sweep is made in two layers, the bottom from two pieces and the top from three to offset the scarped joints.  The bottom part is thicker and is rabbeted on the inner and outer edges to accommodate the gooseneck guide on the inside edge and the rope to the wheel on its outer edge.  The rabbets were cut on the milling machine with the aid of a guide as shown in the next picture.

 

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The two halves were then assembled on the patterns as shown below.

 

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The next picture shows the finished sweep.  It is quite simplified from the original.

 

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The brass pins are larger than the prototype pins for the 3” wooden wheels between the layers on the aft side.  On the model the pins will serve as rollers.

 

The tiller was made from Euro Boxwood and fitted with copper fittings.  The picture below shows the end fittings before blackening.

 

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The next picture shows the tiller/rudder assembly.

 

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The tiller is fastened to the rudder by two long bolts which, allow it to flex up and down.  This is required because of  the angle of the tiller relative to the axis of rotation of the rudder.  The parts have all been blackened in this picture.

 

The next picture shows the rigging of the tiller.

 

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Two single blocks with tackle were fitted on each side so the main tiller rope could be tensioned.  The larger tiller rope is attached to one side only in this picture and wrapped temporarily around the end of the tiller..  Later when the wheel is installed the excess rope coiled up in this picture will be threaded up to the wheel and back through the sweep to be attached to the block and tackle on the opposite side.  All this rigging was made from parts and rope left over from the Victory model.

 

The last picture shows the tiller and sweep installed temporarily under the aft upper deck beams, which are also only set temporarily.

 

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There are two mounted sheaves yet to be made which will be placed at the ends of the sweep to guide the rope from the wheel into the sweep track at the ends.  These will be made and fitted along with their supporting beams.

 

 

Ed

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