drobinson02199 Posted November 17, 2020 Share #1 Posted November 17, 2020 I have built the Amati Revenge and Fly from the Victory Models series, and both were terrific builds with outstanding kit quality. These were designed by Chris Watton, so when I saw that he had formed his own modeling company, Vanguard Models, I really wanted to try one to see how the kit quality and ship appearance compared. Opening the box, the kit quality looks outstanding. Everything neatly packed and shrink-wrapped, and the wood looks great. The manual is also something to behold: large lie-flat with heavy pages and lots of 4-color pictures and drawings. I'm looking forward to starting this one and will post a log as I go. Regards, David VTHokiEE, Edwardkenway, CTDavies and 1 other 4 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share #2 Posted November 18, 2020 Have partially finished the hull structure. Some more to go. The ruler is 300mm long and gives you a sense of the size of this ship. Regards, David VTHokiEE, Edwardkenway and Sjors 3 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooty Posted November 18, 2020 Share #3 Posted November 18, 2020 I will be following your build keenly, and it will likely be my next build! I was looking at the Vanguard range just yesterday! VTHokiEE and drobinson02199 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted November 19, 2020 Share #4 Posted November 19, 2020 Are you considering planking the lower deck? I wish that I had, even if only a small amount can be seen (from the right angle). 23 minutes ago, Sooty said: and it will likely be my next build! It is a great build if you end up taking it on! Rik Thistle 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted November 19, 2020 VTHokiEE: Timely question. I hadn't planned to. What is the angle -- through the hatchways? All of them or just one? I'm also going to leave the hull natural vs. painting it white. Regards, David Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted November 19, 2020 Share #6 Posted November 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, drobinson02199 said: Timely question. I hadn't planned to. What is the angle -- through the hatchways? All of them or just one? Built as designed you’d have to be pretty much directly overhead to see down onto a planked sub deck on all of them. The only real reason to plank the sub deck would be to modify the build and replace one of the gratings with a ladder. I had briefly considered leaving one open and adding a ladder but gave up on that idea because I didn’t think of planking earlier. When I was adding the skylight and grating in the aft I realized that the false keel runs directly through the center of them. This is probably not visible very well either at the end, but at the time I was installing the fittings I wished I had trimmed it down (but again now I don’t really think it matters). drobinson02199 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted November 19, 2020 Thanks. Based on that I think I'll skip planking it. Regards, David VTHokiEE 1 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted November 19, 2020 Here's more of the hull structure. Regards, David VTHokiEE, Henke, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted November 22, 2020 The upper deck is now mounted. One issue I had is that the rear flanges are very fragile, and before I mounted the deck I set the boat down on its stern and they all snapped off. So I glued them back on, paying attention to the angle, and then glued on the rear deck. One is missing, because I couldn't find it after it snapped off, but I've looked ahead and it won't matter to the build. So that's something to be careful of when building this model. Regards, David Sjors, JpR62, Ryland Craze and 3 others 6 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzarian Posted November 23, 2020 Share #10 Posted November 23, 2020 It is a lovely kit, building it is an enjoyable journey and I especially appreciated the thoughtfulness of its design. There is quite a large gap between two of the bulkheads - I think 4 and 5 - and care needs to be taken when planking there to avoid a flat patch in the hull shape. I saw that one other builder packed it out with balsa block to maintain the curve. The false deck includes precut holes for the deck ringbolts but the manual makes no mention of how to transfer these through the deck planking, which is something to think about. Anyway, enjoy the build! drobinson02199 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzarian Posted November 23, 2020 Share #11 Posted November 23, 2020 On mine, which I've attempted to civilianise as I'm not a fan of things military, I am experimenting with a companionway and skylight (they are not fitted yet though an might not be). I bit off more than I could chew though and have slightly lost my way. Hopefully will recover! drobinson02199 and Edwardkenway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted November 25, 2020 First planking underway. Regards, David VTHokiEE, Sooty and Edwardkenway 3 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted December 1, 2020 Except for the top rail, first planking is done. I experience hull planking as an existential art form. You never quite know what pattern you're going to end up with. This one reflects my continued use of side-bending (with the help of my steamer) until I finally threw in the towel and let the planks run. The result is the most interesting planking pattern I've ended up with to date. Regards, David VTHokiEE, Rik Thistle, CiscoH and 1 other 4 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted December 1, 2020 Share #14 Posted December 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, drobinson02199 said: The result is the most interesting planking pattern I've ended up with to date. It's very oddly satisfying drobinson02199 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted December 2, 2020 I've filled, sanded and varnished the first planking, and done some work on the stern. The diagonal planks you see at the stern are the pear wood that will be used for the second planking (which is next). As I mentioned earlier, I will probably not paint the hull white as I really like the look of the finished wood. Regards, David catopower 1 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted December 4, 2020 Started on the second planking. The pear wood for that installs very easily and lies flat. Regards, David bruce d and Edwardkenway 2 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted December 9, 2020 Second planking done, sanded and first coat of varnish applied. The pear wood Chris Watton used on this ship reminds me of the Tanganyika wood he used on the Revenge. Regards, David Edwardkenway, DPhilbrick and bruce d 3 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share #18 Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) One option when you buy this model is to get a pre-etched deck (so you don't have to plank it), and I took that. In the photos, you can see the deck on the laser-cut sheet, and then mounted on the ship. The manual reads as if you are planking the deck, and it has the side bulwarks planked before deck planking, and then painted red after. When you use the pre-etched deck you really need to plank the bulwarks after you mount it. So you can see that at this point they aren't planked yet. Further, if I paint the side bulwarks after I plank them, I'll need to do a lot of careful masking around a curved bulwark (this is how the manual reads), but what I think I'll do instead is pre-paint the lower planks that run along the deck, which will give a nice finish and obviate the masking. Edited December 10, 2020 by drobinson02199 bruce d, Rik Thistle and VTHokiEE 3 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooty Posted December 10, 2020 Share #19 Posted December 10, 2020 That looks GORGEOUS, and the margin plank is simply superb. Though the grain/shade continuity kind of gives it away. Perhaps a couple of shades of very diluted stain over random planks would break it up? Then again, usually things like that show up a lot more prominently on photos and it may be hardly noticeable to the naked eye. drobinson02199 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share #20 Posted December 11, 2020 Finished planking and painting the inside bulwarks. The manual calls for the 1x4 second planking strips for the inside bulwark planking, which I used, but for the short piece across the rear I used a 1x5 first planking strip, because the strip width fits better. Regards, David Edwardkenway and bruce d 2 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share #21 Posted December 13, 2020 Gunports cut and painted and bulwark tops installed. Regards, David Jorge Hedges, bruce d and Edwardkenway 3 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share #22 Posted December 15, 2020 Main wale now added. Regards, David VTHokiEE, Edwardkenway, bruce d and 2 others 5 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share #23 Posted December 16, 2020 Stern transom assembled, painted and installed. Regards, David bruce d, VTHokiEE, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted December 16, 2020 Share #24 Posted December 16, 2020 I am just catching up on this. That is a good looking boat, those colours really pop with the wood. Good job, looking forward to what happens next. drobinson02199 and Edwardkenway 2 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Hedges Posted December 16, 2020 Share #25 Posted December 16, 2020 Beautiful build so far; I have this kit in turn for assembly as soon as I finish what I am working on. Regards, Jorge Edwardkenway and drobinson02199 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share #26 Posted December 25, 2020 Tree Rail and Timberheads installed and painted. All of the posts have to be sanded down to fit in the slots in the railings. I also found that it's best to install the posts in the top railing one at a time, align the first post and glue it, then trim the rail, then the next post and align that with the slot, glue it to the top, and so on. That way all of the posts align when you finally glue it down to the lower rail. Regards, David Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share #27 Posted December 31, 2020 Added the catheads and all of the scrollwork. Some building notes: The hawse hole pieces next to the catheads are cut so that they fit perfectly -- if you fit them backwards from the way the manual says. So I had to sand down the bottom edges to get them to fit properly. The manual says to paint the scrollwork yellow. This is the same treatment (and same instruction) that Chris Watton used on the HMS Fly, which I also built. I love the look of brass, and don't see the point in painting it yellow -- so I left it plain (as I did on the Fly). Regards, David VTHokiEE and DPhilbrick 2 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share #28 Posted January 2, 2021 Shot racks installed. I put the shot into the racks before installing them, and I would highly recommend that. This will be my last post for a while -- going south for some warm weather! Regards, David VTHokiEE 1 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted January 2, 2021 Share #29 Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, drobinson02199 said: going south for some warm weather That sounds just terrific! Any open positions? Kidding aside, your doing a good job with Cheerful. Such a nice little kit. Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drobinson02199 Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share #30 Posted April 26, 2021 So my last post was January 2 just before I headed south to Florida for a few months, but now I'm back and have turned to the Alert again. Pictures here of the rudder and tiller, the bow waterline decorations, and the channels and stern steps. Regards, David zappto and Wintergreen 2 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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