olphart Posted February 16, 2013 Share #1 Posted February 16, 2013 I have 5 of the frames built so far. Have to build a jig soon, Sharing time between it and my Corel Sirene. Pics as soon as there's something to show. Currently building: Corel "La Sirene" HMS Triton Cross section Wating to start: MS Syren Kit Bash of AL Bluenose II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted February 17, 2013 Share #2 Posted February 17, 2013 Nice to have you here and I look forward to seeing your pictures when you can post them. Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olphart Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted February 18, 2013 Here'smy work to date. I'm using black walnut for the frames and cherry forthe keel. I haven't made any decisions about the other wood speciesI'll use. Gotta get that jig together pdq. Currently building: Corel "La Sirene" HMS Triton Cross section Wating to start: MS Syren Kit Bash of AL Bluenose II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted February 19, 2013 Share #4 Posted February 19, 2013 Nice looking frames, off to a great start!! Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 19, 2013 Share #5 Posted February 19, 2013 Yes, nice looking frames. I like the color of the wood. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrockel Posted February 19, 2013 Share #6 Posted February 19, 2013 Those frames will look great with a finish on them. You look way too organized in that last pic. "I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate " Current builds: H.M.S. TRITON Cross Section by Bbrockel - Scratch Build - Scale 1:48 US Brig Syren by Bbrockel - Model Shipways -Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olphart Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted February 23, 2013 Got a fair bit done the day before yesterday, as shown here. I've cleaned off the paper, and tidied up the slots since these pictures. I've made a jig and I'm going to glue the spacers on to the frames before fitting them to the keel. More pics of that process to come. My poor Sirene is being neglected....Oh well Currently building: Corel "La Sirene" HMS Triton Cross section Wating to start: MS Syren Kit Bash of AL Bluenose II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted February 23, 2013 Share #8 Posted February 23, 2013 Very nice, good progress. Frames look like they will fair up nicely. Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmans Posted February 23, 2013 Share #9 Posted February 23, 2013 Great job. I think the dark timber frames will look good. Are you planning on leaving some of the planking off to show this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rummy Posted February 23, 2013 Share #10 Posted February 23, 2013 Very clean start.Nice cutting on the frames. Larry With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olphart Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted February 23, 2013 Got a fair bit more done. I still have some sanding to do before I glue the frames down, but things are starting to take shape. Currently building: Corel "La Sirene" HMS Triton Cross section Wating to start: MS Syren Kit Bash of AL Bluenose II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long9Ron Posted February 27, 2013 Share #12 Posted February 27, 2013 It's looks good. I'm a little ways behind you. I'm still working on getting the frames ready. Ron Current Build: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section 1:48 Why is it that I always find out the best way to do something is after I have already done it the wrong way? - Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olphart Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share #13 Posted February 27, 2013 Spar varnished the frames using a "ragging" technique and assembled the section. It looked pretty good, but I used the wrong glue/should have presanded the joints, so it came apart like a cardboard suitcase in a rainstorm when I handled it. No harm done, in fact, now I can make some changes that will improve it, like lining up the spacer blocks better, and adding "rising wood" to the keel. The walnut looks great varnished. Ragging leaves a non gloss finish and you don't get runs. I have an order in at the Lumberyard for the rest of the wood and as soon as I get the quote, I can get that shipped out to me. Meanwhile, back to La Sirene during the interim Currently building: Corel "La Sirene" HMS Triton Cross section Wating to start: MS Syren Kit Bash of AL Bluenose II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olphart Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share #14 Posted February 27, 2013 Great job. I think the dark timber frames will look good. Are you planning on leaving some of the planking off to show this? For sure. I'm planning to show just the area that has no uglies. Gonna be a small area! Currently building: Corel "La Sirene" HMS Triton Cross section Wating to start: MS Syren Kit Bash of AL Bluenose II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrim Posted February 27, 2013 Share #15 Posted February 27, 2013 I used black walnut for my beams and it does come up in a beautiful rich colour when oiled. Should look great. Joss ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olphart Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) This was a bit of a senior moment. I got the bright idea to make a jig that would make sure that my frame spacers were lined up nicely. as you can see from the first pic, I glued blocks on the jig and simply slid the frame into place. A+ if you already see the disaster looming This worked a treat as you can see in the next shot. the frame fitted beautifully and the blocks allowed me to place the spacers perfectly and glue them down. Now came the problem.....*sigh* Part marks to those who just figured out the problem. That's about the time I realized my error.... Onward and upward, as they say. I've already redesigned that jig, in my mind anyway, but I put it aside for the time being to build a new assembly jig. Edited March 2, 2013 by olphart Currently building: Corel "La Sirene" HMS Triton Cross section Wating to start: MS Syren Kit Bash of AL Bluenose II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olphart Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share #17 Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) I didn't like my assembly jig. It didn't seem to be very accurate and it was clumsy to work with, so I built a different one based on pictures I've seen. I haven't actually fastened any frames to the keel yet. Just letting my mind work with it for now to try to foresee any glitches. ( See, I can learn from my mistakes! ). So far, it seems like it will solve many problems Edited March 2, 2013 by olphart Currently building: Corel "La Sirene" HMS Triton Cross section Wating to start: MS Syren Kit Bash of AL Bluenose II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey1847 Posted March 2, 2013 Share #18 Posted March 2, 2013 Hello Olphart! I like this jig better than the other one. I have never use a jig to assemble the frames. I glue the "blue pieces" to the assembly patern with "Pritt" or similar. What I do and I have found it very important is to extend the line where the futtoks of the red ones come together (you can see a pencil pointing the intersection line) Then with a brush and water I remove the paper and glue the "red pieces" with white glue using clamps. As you can see I leave some extrawood at the end of the frames. There will be time enough to cut it later when all the frames were in place. Good work so far and excellent workshop you´ve got there. Good luck! Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boccherini Posted March 3, 2013 Share #19 Posted March 3, 2013 Olphart, the colour of the walnut looks great. Re the spacers, I lined mine up by sight as the frames were glued together on the keel, keeping them clear of the future gunports. They were placed near the top of the frames to reinforce the structure whilst sanding. Worked out ok. Regards, Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 4, 2013 Share #20 Posted March 4, 2013 Olphart, Good catch on the jig. I use a method similar to the others. I tape the assembly drawing down to a 1/4" piece of glass, Build the frame and then lay another piece of 1/4" glass on top. The glass lets me view that everything is lining up and also provides pressure to ensure a good glue joint. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 22, 2013 Share #21 Posted March 22, 2013 Olphart, want to thank you for sharing your building steps. Those walnut frames are beauties. 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olphart Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share #22 Posted April 29, 2013 Got some of the planking and treenailing done.. I don't like my limber boards one little bit. I'm redoing those as we speak. I also have the deck beams bent to spec and ready to start working on the lower deck. Also been working on La Sirene. It looks as if I'm the only one Model Ship World foolish enough to build one. I found a French site that has many very helpful pics, and being able to read a bit of French helps as well, so I'm not working entirely from what Corel calls plans. Currently building: Corel "La Sirene" HMS Triton Cross section Wating to start: MS Syren Kit Bash of AL Bluenose II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted April 30, 2013 Share #23 Posted April 30, 2013 Hi olphart, nice to see your progressing along nicely. Good luck on redoing the limber boards. Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted April 30, 2013 Share #24 Posted April 30, 2013 Looking good, Olphart. Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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