glue for planking

[BOB S.]

I am a beginner and am a little confused.   ...  My kit directions specify using contact cement [super glue ?]  but I find that it dries too fast sooo I am using "wood glue" [yellow glue ] .  When I did the planking on the flat deck, I used the wood glue and clamped the planking.  This seems to work fine. 

       Is there any reason that I cannot continue to use "wood glue"????  I let it cure for at least 3 hours.   HELP !!

[VTHokiEE]

You most certainly can use wood glue (many do).

 

I assume that the directions suggest super glue because it may be tricky to get the planks clamped in place while the glue dries. There is no real reason why you can’t use wood glue.

Edited November 29, 2020 by VTHokiEE

[Rik Thistle]

Hi Bob,

 

White wood glue - Polyvinyl Acetate (PVA eg Titebond) is absolutely fine for deck and hull planking and takes a few minutes to 'grab' giving plenty time for adjustments. It sets hard in about 24 hrs.

 

Some members occasionally use Super Glue (aka Cyanoacrylate, CA) for quick setting (10 secs?) joints on difficult hull planking, say. Super Glue Gel takes a little longer (30 secs?) to set so gives a little adjustment time. But CA does stick your fingers together!

 

Contact Adhesive is used for sticking soles on shoes...it has a rubbery texture. I wouldn't use it for model ships.

 

Here's a very good thread on glues ...   https://modelshipworld.com/topic/1894-glue-recommendations/?tab=comments#comment-43667      

 

regards,

 

Richard

 

[mtaylor]

I moved this to the correct area and deleted a duplicate post with no responces.

 

 

[allanyed]

Carpenter's glue such as Titebond and other brands is what I have always used with success.    For metal to wood, CA is OK but I prefer epoxy as it is not shear sensitive like cyanoacrylate glues.   

 

Allan

Edited November 29, 2020 by allanyed

[Keithbrad80]

Wood glue has an excellent bond and therefore makes a great glue! You may find that using wood glue on planking can be tricky if you have a really tight spot to plank. In that case CA works well as described above. Good luck!

 

Bradley

[Thistle17]

I would just add another alternative. I have become quite fond of DAP Rapid Fuse Adhesive. I would characterize it as a CA adhesive but it has one useful capability that others do not have. A plank can be lifted within 30 seconds of application and relaid once again w/o more CA. I found this useful if I didn't get quite the plank to plank abutting that was needed. I have even pulled planks off completely, sanded the CA side and bulkheads (once dry) and reapplied them without incident. The adhesive bonds wood to ABS or similar "plastics". It sets after 30 seconds and cures in about 30 minutes.

Joe

Edited November 30, 2020 by Thistle17

[Rik Thistle]

DAP Rapid Fuse Adhesive.

 

Thanks for the heads up. Doesn't seem it is easily available in the UK ...well, not without £15 delivery charge on the £17 bottle...gulp.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/DAP-00157-Adhesive-Building-Material/dp/B01DA6X1OC

 

I notice some Amazon Customer Reviews warning to wear gloves since it is extra super sticky...which all CA glues tend to be anyway.

 

I've added it to my Wishlist and will watch for it becoming a free delivery Prime item 😉

 

Richard

 

[Thistle17]

I guess I should have mentioned that the DAP product seems to sand easier and leaves no trace when one has to overcoat with either paint or finish. The manufacturer does stress that a minimal amount of adhesive is all that is necessary. I use the small but effective loop adhesive applicators that fit in an Xacto holder and that minimizes most all application problems. There are always caveats aren't there?

Joe

Edited December 2, 2020 by Thistle17

[Roger Pellett]

The PVA glues are nearly odorless and at least in my case using them causes no side effects.  CA glues cause a nasty sinus reaction. 

 

 

[scottpollack]

I am a furniture maker as well as a modeler. A glue that I find highly useful is liquid hide glue. Titebond has a great product and the most useful things about this glue is 1. It has a longer set up time for complicated applications and it's completely reversible with moist heat. Meaning if planks or whatever don't align correctly, lay a hot moist towel over the joint and it will come apart. And 2. Hide glue sticks to and dissolves onto itself so you don't need to sand away old glue and alter the shape of a joint. 

It may not be practical for the entire ship but it's uses do have their place