HMS Bounty by LyleK1 - Artesania Latina - 1:48 scale

[LyleK1]

Made a mistake! The lowest plank on the aft rails was supposed to be one piece... no cannon openings!

If you look back at my previous log entry, you'll see what I mean!

I was able to remove the pieces with no damage and just some light sanding to remove old glue residue.

So, all of that set me back a little but reminded to always look at the pictures and plans before starting on a piece!

Aft rails going in:

 

Aft rails sanded, painted and done on the outside:

 

Inner rail paint and rail caps are next.

[LyleK1]

A little painting... ok, a lot of painting!

 

In keeping with my original plan, I have thinned the paint to give it a more weathered look. Some distressing and a final coat on the hull is forthcoming:

 

Same scenario on the inners sides of the gunwale rails:

 

Inner stiffner rails and cannon hole supports added:

 

Cap rails are next!

Thanks for taking a look!

[LyleK1]

Cap rails done:

 

 

and hand rails:

 

Finished up some trim painting around the waterways and all the way to the bow:

 

The bilge pumps were made from Elm tree trunks... the kit sent brass tubes! I think dowels would have been a better idea. I looked for some around my work shop but I don't have any the right size! Brass tubes will be used!

After doing some research, I decided to paint the brass a medium brown, hoping to simulate an Elm tree! At the base of the tube, I used several different colors to try to make the tube look as though some algae or other "green stuff" would grow when wetted a lot:

 

The holes that the tubes slide through are a bit tight and were scrapping the paint off! I widened them enough to prevent paint removal. These are not quite at the right height yet, but close:

 

On to the some of the stern decorations!

[allanyed]

Just checked in to your build log and find your model to be one of the best executions of a Bounty kit here at MSW. Your workmanship is extremely nice to see.    One thing to keep in mind for the gratings when you get to them on the upper deck, the ledges run athwartships and the the battens run fore and aft, not the opposite way as they appear to be on your lower deck.   The contemporary drawings and other images of the Bounty on the RMG Collections site may be helpful if you have not already researched them.   https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/search/Bounty

Looking forward to your next posting and photos!

Allan

Edited December 12, 2021 by allanyed

[LyleK1]

4 hours ago, allanyed said:

Just checked in to your build log and find your model to be one of the best executions of a Bounty kit here at MSW. Your workmanship is extremely nice to see.    One thing to keep in mind for the gratings when you get to them on the upper deck, the ledges run athwartships and the the battens run fore and aft, not the opposite way as they appear to be on your lower deck.   The contemporary drawings and other images of the Bounty on the RMG Collections site may be helpful if you have not already researched them.   https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/search/Bounty

Looking forward to your next posting and photos!

Allan

Hi Allan,

 I appreciate the comments and you stopping to check out the log!

Can you elaborate on the grates? I’m not sure I understand what I did wrong and want to be sure I get it right!

These are from the kit:

Please explain!!

I do have the plans you attached too. I’ll pull them up later today. I took a quick look from your link but didn’t see a lot of details for the grates… but I am using my phone as I’m away from the house right now.

Its probably too late fix the lower deck grates but I do want to know exactly what I did wrong and learn from it!

Thanks!

[LyleK1]

Decided to do some hull aging. As per my earlier formula, I used black wash, sanding, vinegar and boiled linseed oil.

Before the wash:

 

After the wash:

 

After wash and vinegar:

 

After one coat of linseed oil:

 

More coats to come... Gotta be a bit careful where I apply the oil because that are still some pieces to be glued and glue doesn't work so good on linseed oil! Also, may need to use some steel wool to cut the shine... will wait until it is 100% dry to decide.

[LyleK1]

Forgot to take a few pictures of the starboard hull... will get them in next time.

But I buffed the first coat out with 000 steel wool to cut the shine down and then added a second coat of linseed oil, waited for it to dry and buffed it again with the steel wool.

So, onto the stern decorations and vessel name.

Getting these little pieces bent and glued together was a bigger task than I expected:

 

Decided to change from the model directions and take 2 - 5mm X 2mm basswood, gluing them together and using my mill, cut out the area for the vessel nameplate:

 

 

Glued them to the decorative ring (above)

The nameplate will be painted black before placement but you get the idea:

And after painting, the name will be attached... not sure how yet. The letters are really small... putting them on will require some movement to ensure they are straight and spaced evenly, unlike below:

Letters need a little cleaning up too.

The decorative ring needs to be painted before installation.

Coming soon!

[allanyed]

Hi Lyle,

Sorry for the late reply.  Regarding the gratings, a picture may be easier.   

 

 

Just an FYI regarding  the name on the stern.  The names on the stern were not made of pieces, but rather were  painted on.  (This only lasted from about 1781 to 1791, before and after which until late in the 19th century, names were not shown at all.)   For this size, it may be easier to buy a page of stick on letters as they are so thin as to look like they are painted.   

 

Happy holidays!!

Allan

[LyleK1]

1 hour ago, allanyed said:

Hi Lyle,

Sorry for the late reply.  Regarding the gratings, a picture may be easier.   

 

 

Just an FYI regarding  the name on the stern.  The names on the stern were not made of pieces, but rather were  painted on.  (This only lasted from about 1781 to 1791, before and after which until late in the 19th century, names were not shown at all.)   For this size, it may be easier to buy a page of stick on letters as they are so thin as to look like they are painted.   

 

Happy holidays!!

Allan

I had no idea that it made a difference on the gratings! Thanks for the info!

 

As to the lettering... I don't have a steady enough hand to do those letters with a brush! The letters shown were actually from the kit and made of brass, I painted them white... I suspect I won't find anything better or easier to apply.

Appreciate the information, Allan.

Merry Christmas to you!

[LyleK1]

I still haven't taken that hull picture... guess I'll wait until I finish the port side too!

 

Stern decoration work...

I went looking for some direction on what was on the original Bounty. Best place to look? An Anatomy of a Ship: The transport Bounty... An excellent reference for many things on and in the Bounty but... not the stern decoration!

The author clearly states that he took some liberties because there are no known accounts of the stern work. So, artistic freedoms were the theme for me as well:

 

Assembled but before aging:

And after aging:

 

And gluing in to place... this was tough to get perfectly lined up AND get the clamps on to match the stern curvature:

 

Nameplate and decoration in place:

 

Again, using various sources (pictures of paintings, this time), I decided to paint the window frames white and installed them using a very thin tip to apply CA glue:

 

I am installing some lighter window frames to again, match the color scheme in the painting. Still have the vertical pieces to do:

 

I'll finish this up over the next day or two and move on to the bow for some preliminary work!

Probably will get some linseed oil on the port side and stern too.

[LyleK1]

As promised, pictures of the completed finish on the hull:

 

I've applied linseed oil up to the wales. Nothing above the wales because there are still a lot of pieces to be glued into place!

There are two coats applied and sanded with steel wool.

I also finished the stern... for now, and oiled it too:

 

Working on the bow now.

[LyleK1]

Today was my first day of retirement!
So, a lot of pictures and info on the bow work currently underway!

There are quite a few small pieces that make up the bow section. Some decoration and some parts of the structure or a working surface. I started with 2 strips on each side of the stem:

Obviously, these needed to be shaped, the first set was easy enough but matching them for the other side was difficult!

I soaked the pieces in water for about 30-45 minutes and used heat bend them:

 

Clamped and glued into place:

 

The anchor davits were next. These are precut pieces and needed little more than some shaping. Again, in keeping with my weathering theme, I blackened all the hardware associated with the davits. The product I use is in the picture, it does a really good job, the longer it's left to react, the more aged it looks:

 

The assembly was pretty straight forward. However, there was one discrepancy that I found with the plans and the pictures involving the eye hooks. On the plans it shows it on one side of the davit while the picture shows it on the opposite side. The side eye bolts should be on the outside. Here is the assembled davits:

 

 

And installed:

 

Anchor line tie-off's were shaped using my mini mill and a round file:

And installed:

 

The anchor line holes were drilled out and the protection plates installed along with the davit supports:

 

The head rails in the plans looked to be the wrong size (1.5mm X 1.5mm)... it just looked wrong!

I used my table saw and cut down 5mm X 2mm strip to 3 X 2, shaped and installed:

 

Lastly, the angle of the anchor davits to the deck just didn't look good. I added a shim to give it a little more finished look:

 

Hoping to finish the bow work tomorrow and move to the stern and the rudder next.

 

Happy New Year and thanks for visiting!

 

[Tim Moore]

Looking very good Lyle!

Congrats on your retirement and wishing you a happy new year.

[LyleK1]

13 hours ago, Tim Moore said:

Looking very good Lyle!

Congrats on your retirement and wishing you a happy new year.

Thanks Tim!

Appreciate you stopping by.

Happy New Year to you as well!

[Dave_E]

OUTSTANDING work Sir! Crazy good detail. You’re an inspiration to new builders (like myself). I’m also freshly “retired”, congratulations. 🙂

[DaveBaxt]

Fantastic workmanship. Happy new year and good luck in your retirement. I think we will see a lot more of you as there is nothing holding you back now.

Always great to see your progress.Best regards Dave

[LyleK1]

23 minutes ago, Dave_E said:

OUTSTANDING work Sir! Crazy good detail. You’re an inspiration to new builders (like myself). I’m also freshly “retired”, congratulations. 🙂

Congrats to you as well! Nice to hear from a fellow Washingtonian too. I lived in Stanwood a lifetime ago. Beautiful area.

Good luck and enjoy that first build. I'm betting there will be many more to come!

Thanks for checking in, it's always nice to hear from everyone.

Edited December 31, 2021 by LyleK1

[LyleK1]

12 minutes ago, DaveBaxt said:

Fantastic workmanship. Happy new year and good luck in your retirement. I think we will see a lot more of you as there is nothing holding you back now.

Always great to see your progress.Best regards Dave

Thanks Dave.

The workshop is definitely getting more time now! 

[LyleK1]

Done with the head rails...  tedious work! Little tiny pieces of 1.5mm square stock. I used walnut for the main rails and basswood for the smaller rails. Most pictures or paintings show the head rails to be white... a compromise!

And at the end, my measurements were a bit off but overall looks good and once everything is place, it will be unnoticeable.

I did end up changing the lay-out a bit to ensure less problems when rigging the bowsprit later on:

 

At this point, I need to make a mount for the ship. It is getting difficult to work with my current holder and I want to get the wiring tucked away. 

I have been looking for the right mount for her and I ran across this earlier today:

 

I really like it and I think it will be perfect for the Bounty. I will make two cradles and not use the pedestals.

I'm going to make it from walnut. I found a good piece at a local store and will pick it up tomorrow. I don't plan to add it to my build log since there is a video of it already unless some of you think it's worth me adding it... let me know what you think!

Thanks for looking in on the log.

[LyleK1]

Finished the mount!

Changed my mind on the wood... Used Zebra wood instead of Walnut:

 

3 coats of linseed oil and felt pads added:

 

I installed a brass rod on each support that slips into the keel to keep the Bounty from moving. It also saves the wiring from undue wear and tear:

 

The wires will run through a channel on the bottom of the main strut. I've ordered 2 quick disconnects that I will connect to the Bounty wiring and fit into the mounts for easier removal from the mount when needed:

 

Finished:

Back to the stern and rudder areas!

[Joe100]

Gorgeous! I love the scheme you’ve chosen too. Being a student of Bounty, I don’t think that her scheme was very remarkable at all. While blue is certainly possible, I have a hunch black was probably dominant. 

[LyleK1]

1 hour ago, Joe100 said:

Gorgeous! I love the scheme you’ve chosen too. Being a student of Bounty, I don’t think that her scheme was very remarkable at all. While blue is certainly possible, I have a hunch black was probably dominant. 

Thanks Joe... 

Short of information that can be authenticated (as you probably know), I've made some assumptions for the time period and origination of the Bounty. And I agree, she could've been blue, but I doubt it.

Have you read Mutiny on the Bounty by Peter FitzSimmons?

An excellent book and a source for some information too.

Appreciate you stopping in! 

 

[Dave_E]

WOW! Beautiful. 👍

[Joe100]

2 hours ago, LyleK1 said:

Thanks Joe... 

Short of information that can be authenticated (as you probably know), I've made some assumptions for the time period and origination of the Bounty. And I agree, she could've been blue, but I doubt it.

Have you read Mutiny on the Bounty by Peter FitzSimmons?

An excellent book and a source for some information too.

Appreciate you stopping in! 

 

Indeed, I have read that book, and probably every other book on her. One of my favorites is by Bengt Danielsson, who’s name might be familiar, as he was the store master on the Kon-Tiki expedition. It’s translated from its original Swedish so it’s pace can be a tiny bit strange at times, but I still really enjoyed it. I like Bengt Danielsson a lot, his books are great and he was a bit of a personality. One of the last people to come in contact with anyone actually connected to the Pisco Treasure too. Another story, for another time, but a fascinating none the less. 

 

I felt PF was a little harsh on Bligh in his book. I have a little sympathy for Bligh as his motivation and his crew’s were completely different. He’s one of those guys, like Shackleton, that wanted to make a name for himself. Better his station. Ambition. Sadly he chose one of the least supported missions for it. I also think he had bipolar disorder, or something along those lines. I don’t think he was the monster PF makes him out to be, but he probably wasn’t pleasant when his mood swung the other way. His mouth was his biggest enemy. 
 

On another note, last year I was able to acquire a piece of her iron ballast. I knew that some pieces did exist and I finally wore down the collector. I’m something of a warship artifact collector, and I’d always wanted an artifact from Bounty. I mostly focus on Antarctic exploration items, specializing in items belonging to Shackleton. I still have a few ships on my list, always another Mt. Everest I guess.

 

 

[LyleK1]

1 hour ago, Joe100 said:

Indeed, I have read that book, and probably every other book on her. One of my favorites is by Bengt Danielsson, who’s name might be familiar, as he was the store master on the Kon-Tiki expedition. It’s translated from its original Swedish so it’s pace can be a tiny bit strange at times, but I still really enjoyed it. I like Bengt Danielsson a lot, his books are great and he was a bit of a personality. One of the last people to come in contact with anyone actually connected to the Pisco Treasure too. Another story, for another time, but a fascinating none the less. 

 

I felt PF was a little harsh on Bligh in his book. I have a little sympathy for Bligh as his motivation and his crew’s were completely different. He’s one of those guys, like Shackleton, that wanted to make a name for himself. Better his station. Ambition. Sadly he chose one of the least supported missions for it. I also think he had bipolar disorder, or something along those lines. I don’t think he was the monster PF makes him out to be, but he probably wasn’t pleasant when his mood swung the other way. His mouth was his biggest enemy. 
 

On another note, last year I was able to acquire a piece of her iron ballast. I knew that some pieces did exist and I finally wore down the collector. I’m something of a warship artifact collector, and I’d always wanted an artifact from Bounty. I mostly focus on Antarctic exploration items, specializing in items belonging to Shackleton. I still have a few ships on my list, always another Mt. Everest I guess.

 

 

 

Agree on the Bligh comments... a brilliant navigator though! I'll check out the other book, always enjoy knowing as much as possible about the current project.

The Antarctica expeditions are of interest too. I built the HMS Terror a while back... similar backgrounds, but very different!

 

I'd love to see a picture of the iron ballast! I'm using black stone to simulate the ballast on my rendition.

[LyleK1]

3 hours ago, Dave_E said:

WOW! Beautiful. 👍

 

Thanks Dave!

[Joe100]

If you do happen to get the Danielsson book, let me know what you think. I’ve read most of his works, mostly being anthropological works, fascinating none the less. His Bounty work focuses more on the post mutiny, and I think there are a few errors here and there, but otherwise a fine telling. He’s a little more sympathetic toward Bligh.

 

As for the ballast, she carried her iron ballast in long thin bars. I’ve added a picture below. My piece is much smaller, since I really don’t need a giant hunk of steel! I don’t have a photo at the moment, but I’ll make it a point to take one soon. As I type this, I’m working on my Bounty, small world. 
 

[LyleK1]

12 hours ago, Joe100 said:

If you do happen to get the Danielsson book, let me know what you think. I’ve read most of his works, mostly being anthropological works, fascinating none the less. His Bounty work focuses more on the post mutiny, and I think there are a few errors here and there, but otherwise a fine telling. He’s a little more sympathetic toward Bligh.

 

As for the ballast, she carried her iron ballast in long thin bars. I’ve added a picture below. My piece is much smaller, since I really don’t need a giant hunk of steel! I don’t have a photo at the moment, but I’ll make it a point to take one soon. As I type this, I’m working on my Bounty, small world. 
 

Just ordered the book!

Should arrive before I leave for vacation on 2-1.

Looking forward to it!

Are you doing a build log for your Bounty?

Which version are you doing?

[Joe100]

3 hours ago, LyleK1 said:

Just ordered the book!

Should arrive before I leave for vacation on 2-1.

Looking forward to it!

Are you doing a build log for your Bounty?

Which version are you doing?

Excellent. I think you’ll enjoy it. No build log as of yet, but I may eventually. 

[Joe100]

Oh I forgot to ask, are you going to paint the figurehead green? Bligh mentions this but it’s unclear if it was this way when she left or repainted in Tahiti.