Moab Posted August 4, 2021 Share #121 Posted August 4, 2021 WOW!!!!! I assume the barometer works!...Moab FlyingFish and mtaylor 1 1 Quote Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted August 6, 2021 Share #122 Posted August 6, 2021 Great progress FF - very nice work on the instruments! Gary mtaylor and FlyingFish 2 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanofthesea Posted August 7, 2021 Share #123 Posted August 7, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 1:16 PM, FlyingFish said: Pilot House Lots of references on the movie, but significant differences between Ora I and II which can be confusing. I guess the production design team relied on the fact that the background of the scenes is not examined too closely. I have tried to build this as in life; lots of joinery and framing that will be hidden later. Here’s an example from the galley unit: Orca I – T&G planking Orca II – no planking So based on Orca I references... Do you mind me asking what color / type of paint or stain you used for the cabinet,where the stove sits on? I like that color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share #124 Posted August 7, 2021 On 8/4/2021 at 4:12 PM, Moab said: I assume the barometer works!...Moab Well pressure seems to be high in the workshop!😄 mtaylor and Moab 2 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share #125 Posted August 7, 2021 7 hours ago, oldmanofthesea said: what color / type of paint or stain you used Ahoy! Wood is field maple, sanded and sealed with clear shellac to stop the 'nits' creating dark spots later. Then a thinned wash of Vallejo 71.036 model air mahogany, brushed out until no streaks left. Further coats on some planks to provide a contrast. The wood grain shows through, which I like. Finally a pin wash of burnt umber oil thinned with turpentine, with some left at the base to darken it. I will maybe use a black and burnt umber mix of oil paint later to weather it up later when I bring the whole cabin together. BLACK VIKING, FriedClams and mtaylor 3 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share #126 Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) Thanks for all the likes and nice comments - much appreciated! Progress is painstaking as I need to fabricate all the contents of the cabins before getting on with the lower deck roof and pilot house roof. Apparently Marty Milner, one of the crew converting Warlock to Orca, said Joe Alves told them not to worry about all the little details -"they're not gonna show up in the movie, and the audiences won't be able to see them". Oh so you think so eh?! One item that I was frustrated with was the porthole on the back pilot house wall. It is an opening one, and I couldn't find one anywhere to buy. So I made one. Edited August 8, 2021 by FlyingFish mtaylor, Rik Thistle, oneslim and 3 others 6 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share #127 Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) And a few more bits and pieces all destined for the pilot house. Jaws fans will recognise them all (I hope!). Edited August 8, 2021 by FlyingFish mtaylor, maurino, oneslim and 4 others 7 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share #128 Posted August 8, 2021 Talking of Jaws fans maybe you'll find this interesting. Picked this up recently off ebay (no idea who the 'runny nosed girl' was): Benchley always signed with the great little shark doodle - cool eh? BLACK VIKING, GrandpaPhil, FriedClams and 4 others 7 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanofthesea Posted August 8, 2021 Share #129 Posted August 8, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 12:45 AM, FlyingFish said: Ahoy! Wood is field maple, sanded and sealed with clear shellac to stop the 'nits' creating dark spots later. Then a thinned wash of Vallejo 71.036 model air mahogany, brushed out until no streaks left. Further coats on some planks to provide a contrast. The wood grain shows through, which I like. Finally a pin wash of burnt umber oil thinned with turpentine, with some left at the base to darken it. I will maybe use a black and burnt umber mix of oil paint later to weather it up later when I bring the whole cabin together. Thank you very much! Any time I see a color or shade I like,I always like to know how it was achieved FlyingFish, FriedClams and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share #130 Posted August 12, 2021 One step forward.... Still cranking out props to fit out the cabins, more of which in a day or two. Meanwhile something had been bugging me... the carpenters have been dry fitting the pilot house joists, and noticed that the steering column that links the flying bridge wheel to the pilot house wheel, then down into the forward cabin was out by about 4mm... There was no way the linking column would line up with the flying bridge. 😒 Pity as it was looking OK You can see the problem here; the circular cut out on the dash will not clear the joist as it passes up into the flying cockpit. The rake of the front windows was out by about 5 degrees. So nothing for it but to start over and rip out the front windows and frame and start again... sigh. Inserted a 4mm spacer then put the window back in. Its a mess but patchable. But you can see now that the steering shaft is now centred between the joists as it should be. If sharp eyed Jaws aficionados out there are watching - yes the roof joists are curved, not as in the original - I just think some of Orca's redesign (flat roof to pilot house) would never have been found in an authentic lobster boat, so I took an executive decision! FriedClams, jlt13th, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlt13th Posted August 12, 2021 Share #131 Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, FlyingFish said: One step forward.... Still cranking out props to fit out the cabins, more of which in a day or two. Meanwhile something had been bugging me... the carpenters have been dry fitting the pilot house joists, and noticed that the steering column that links the flying bridge wheel to the pilot house wheel, then down into the forward cabin was out by about 4mm... There was no way the linking column would line up with the flying bridge. 😒 Pity as it was looking OK You can see the problem here; the circular cut out on the dash will not clear the joist as it passes up into the flying cockpit. The rake of the front windows was out by about 5 degrees. So nothing for it but to start over and rip out the front windows and frame and start again... sigh. Inserted a 4mm spacer then put the window back in. Its a mess but patchable. But you can see now that the steering shaft is now centred between the joists as it should be. If sharp eyed Jaws aficionados out there are watching - yes the roof joists are curved, not as in the original - I just think some of Orca's redesign (flat roof to pilot house) would never have been found in an authentic lobster boat, so I took an executive decision! Finally got my old user id to work again Believe it or not,they didnt actually change the roofs from the Warlock to Orca.In fact you can still see the paint from Warlocks roof colors seeping through in some pics. Looks like your on the right track.Looking great.I like the lower cabin area as well. I did an Orca half hull many years ago,where I built a lower hold area.Wasnt the best,but it was fun. mtaylor and FlyingFish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlt13th Posted August 13, 2021 Share #132 Posted August 13, 2021 13 hours ago, FlyingFish said: One step forward.... Still cranking out props to fit out the cabins, more of which in a day or two. Meanwhile something had been bugging me... the carpenters have been dry fitting the pilot house joists, and noticed that the steering column that links the flying bridge wheel to the pilot house wheel, then down into the forward cabin was out by about 4mm... There was no way the linking column would line up with the flying bridge. 😒 Pity as it was looking OK You can see the problem here; the circular cut out on the dash will not clear the joist as it passes up into the flying cockpit. The rake of the front windows was out by about 5 degrees. So nothing for it but to start over and rip out the front windows and frame and start again... sigh. Inserted a 4mm spacer then put the window back in. Its a mess but patchable. But you can see now that the steering shaft is now centred between the joists as it should be. If sharp eyed Jaws aficionados out there are watching - yes the roof joists are curved, not as in the original - I just think some of Orca's redesign (flat roof to pilot house) would never have been found in an authentic lobster boat, so I took an executive decision! Heres a pic that shows what I was eluding too.You can see the old Warlock paint through the chips and scrapes.This was also the case with the wheel house roof.BTW:This pic was taken off the coast of Ca. in 74 and thats dolphins (or porpuses) you see jumping at the bow.Pic was taken by the gentleman who owned the Orca after filming wrapped in 74'. mtaylor and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share #133 Posted August 13, 2021 13 hours ago, jlt13th said: In fact you can still see the paint from Warlocks roof colors seeping through in some pics Thanks for these great pictures - very interesting to see that the new owner kept the original 'finish'. When I saw this pic I had assumed the hull had been repainted and the ORCA lettering taken off the transum, so good to see the deck was unaltered. GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and FriedClams 3 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share #134 Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, jlt13th said: This pic was taken off the coast of Ca. in 74 I see that there is a harpoon tied to a barrel - tuna fishing? mtaylor 1 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlt13th Posted August 14, 2021 Share #135 Posted August 14, 2021 15 hours ago, FlyingFish said: Thanks for these great pictures - very interesting to see that the new owner kept the original 'finish'. When I saw this pic I had assumed the hull had been repainted and the ORCA lettering taken off the transum, so good to see the deck was unaltered. Alan and his buddy Jerry (seen in this pic) did strip the hull to bare wood.Funny enough,they restored the hull on the old Gilligans island set,on the Universal backlot..They also stripped parts of the flybridge area to bare wood.but left most of the paint alone as far as the roofs,etc...They only stripped the area where they felt it needed attention.The hull was in rough shape after filming....Also I dont see that harpoon attached to the barrel you mentioned.Maybe your seeing the anchor,or the steel piping of the barrel runner guide? mtaylor, FriedClams, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share #136 Posted August 14, 2021 Very interesting pictures... thanks for posting! Looks like a harpoon from the original props tied to a rope coiled in a bucket... maybe? Alan and his buddy must have been amazed when the film did so well, and realised what they were sitting on! BLACK VIKING, mtaylor, FriedClams and 1 other 4 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlt13th Posted August 14, 2021 Share #137 Posted August 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, FlyingFish said: Very interesting pictures... thanks for posting! Looks like a harpoon from the original props tied to a rope coiled in a bucket... maybe? Alan and his buddy must have been amazed when the film did so well, and realised what they were sitting on! Oh ok.I was looking at the opposite side.If you look at the pic of the back wall/bridge area I posted,you will see that same harpoon (or least same style) ,standing up,attached to the cabin,along with several others..Im not sure if where this one came from.The ones on the cabin sides,were wood and this appears to be metal.So it could be just something they added to the boat.Or possibly it was one of the ones that sat on the wheel house roof,along with the boat hooks and such,that we see in some shots.That'd be my guess. Alan purchased her for $4K and when the movie hit theaters,he sold it back for $16K.He kept the letters off the transom and a few other items.Later selling those for more than double what he sold the boat for..Heres a couple more shots after she arrived in her new home,at Long Beach Marina. GrandpaPhil, Eurus, FriedClams and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share #138 Posted August 14, 2021 That's a great story; he did well, and certainly better than the execs at Universal who allowed one of the (potentially) most famous boats to rot away. Lord only knows what she would be worth today! I'm not aware of these photos ever being posted before, so thank you for adding greatly to the knowledge base about this little boat. In particular the hull shape forward has been the subject of all sorts of interpretation, as I mentioned earlier in this log. It's great to see that she was in fact a fairly standard Novi lobster boat design, with the sweeping sheer that rises from the transom. I think I got this about right in my build, which I'm pleased about. FriedClams and mtaylor 2 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlt13th Posted August 14, 2021 Share #139 Posted August 14, 2021 4 hours ago, FlyingFish said: That's a great story; he did well, and certainly better than the execs at Universal who allowed one of the (potentially) most famous boats to rot away. Lord only knows what she would be worth today! I'm not aware of these photos ever being posted before, so thank you for adding greatly to the knowledge base about this little boat. In particular the hull shape forward has been the subject of all sorts of interpretation, as I mentioned earlier in this log. It's great to see that she was in fact a fairly standard Novi lobster boat design, with the sweeping sheer that rises from the transom. I think I got this about right in my build, which I'm pleased about. These photos havnt been posted much.Up until 2010 no one had ever seen them.Not even Alan.He took them back in 74' and never developed them. The negs just sat in his closet all those years..He was kind enough to send me the negatives,in which I developed.Sadly,in 2016 Alan told me he loaned them to another Jaws fan and last I heard he never got them back.....Yeah Warlock was pretty standard.She was actually built here in the USA and was never an actual fishing boat.She was a "lobster yacht" made of 1" oak planking. And yes.Your doing a great job with your build. Im gearing up to do another as well.Its always a fun project. mtaylor and FlyingFish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 15, 2021 Author Share #140 Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) Got through two bottles of apricot brandy today. Feeling a bit light headed now...😴 Edited August 15, 2021 by FlyingFish GrandpaPhil, mtaylor, FriedClams and 1 other 4 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 15, 2021 Author Share #141 Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) The Acme prop factory is working overtime, and still more to do. Here's a taster... Pilot house stuff... Lower trunk cabin stuff... Quint's fancy table (well the legs anyway)... Edited August 15, 2021 by FlyingFish mtaylor, KeithAug, BLACK VIKING and 4 others 5 2 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share #142 Posted August 16, 2021 Thanks for the comments and likes, always appreciated. Let's go fishin'! mtaylor, maurino, FriedClams and 2 others 5 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share #143 Posted August 19, 2021 A couple of teasers. The close up shows every spec of dust and imperfection, but this is just a mock up before final fitting and weathering of interior spaces. BLACK VIKING, Mvf, Raphael and 8 others 7 3 1 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 19, 2021 Share #144 Posted August 19, 2021 Your last post threw me for a curve. I thought you were showing the real thing until I looked really close. FriedClams and FlyingFish 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share #145 Posted August 26, 2021 A few more bits and pieces... mtaylor, KeithAug, maurino and 1 other 4 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share #146 Posted August 26, 2021 So its time to put all the props in place as I'm now itching to get on with the rest of the boat. Starting with the lower trunk cabin and V berth. Then the beams above... GrandpaPhil, BLACK VIKING, maurino and 3 others 4 2 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share #147 Posted August 26, 2021 ...and the pilot house: oneslim, BLACK VIKING, GrandpaPhil and 4 others 6 1 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share #148 Posted August 27, 2021 So after all that fiddly stuff, time to cover it all up. The admiral (head shark hunter) thinks I should find a way to open the deck to show the interior, what do you think? BLACK VIKING, oneslim and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Hoss Posted August 27, 2021 Share #149 Posted August 27, 2021 Absolutely! After all that intricate and amazing work, I would find a way to be able to remove the lids to show it. FlyingFish 1 Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share #150 Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) On 8/27/2021 at 10:06 PM, DCN said: Small magnets on the corners That's a great idea DCN, I'll look at that. Framing of top decks coming on. I wonder what they would have stored in those lockers...? Edited September 21, 2021 by FlyingFish GrandpaPhil, DCN, FriedClams and 2 others 5 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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