russ Posted November 23, 2013 Author #271 Posted November 23, 2013 Sam: Thanks. I was careful to get a good centerline marked on the false deck and the first plank was laid right up against that line. It worked out well so far. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Jim Lad Posted November 23, 2013 #272 Posted November 23, 2013 Small or big progress, Russ, she's heading in the right direction! John Quote
russ Posted November 24, 2013 Author #273 Posted November 24, 2013 John: That is exactly right. I am just happy to be making ANY kind of progress. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
michael mott Posted November 24, 2013 #274 Posted November 24, 2013 Russ nice work on the deck planks. I do have a question and it relates to the short beam that is shown affixed to the stanchions near the bow. I notice that there is not a lot of room to tie off under the cleat and I came upon the same situation on my own build ,I was wondering if there is some rule of thumb with regard to the clearances in these areas, especially on boats with low gunwales? Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
russ Posted November 24, 2013 Author #275 Posted November 24, 2013 Michael: Thanks for the kind words. The cleats were probably not governed by any rule except what the locals had found to work over time. These kinds of cleats were found on many local boats, even today. There is usually an inch or two clearance top and bottom, but I have seen it left pretty tight. There is enough room to wrap a line around the cleat above and below. The range of rigging line diameters on these schooners went from 3/8"-1'2" to maybe 5/8"-3/4" diameter. This cleat was probably used for the jib sheets and maybe halyards as well, depending on what other belaying points were available. By the by, I could have simply used a metal bar through a stanchion, fore and aft, as a cleat. I have seen plenty of examples of that as well. In my local research, I have that such details are usually best taken from contemporary photos. There are no local plans that show these small details, and there is just not enough contemporary oral history to use for guidance on this sort of thing. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
michael mott Posted November 24, 2013 #276 Posted November 24, 2013 Thanks for the explanation Russ By the by, I could have simply used a metal bar through a stanchion, fore and aft, as a cleat. I have seen plenty of examples of that as well. This would in effect be like a horizontal belaying pin, wouldn't it. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
russ Posted November 24, 2013 Author #277 Posted November 24, 2013 Michael: That is more or less what it looks like. Very simple, yet very effective. Russ michael mott 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Jim Lad Posted November 25, 2013 #278 Posted November 25, 2013 That's not boring, Russ, that's lovely deck work! John Quote
russ Posted November 25, 2013 Author #279 Posted November 25, 2013 John: Thanks. The deck is coming along just like I hoped it would so far. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
src Posted November 25, 2013 #280 Posted November 25, 2013 I agree with John. I never tire of seeing your work. Sam russ and WackoWolf 2 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise
KenW Posted December 4, 2013 #281 Posted December 4, 2013 Hi Russ. I'm interested in your modified close pin clamps. Are they made by simply gluing a square piece of wood to one side of the pin? I assume you can then push up as well as in. Thanks. Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild
russ Posted December 4, 2013 Author #282 Posted December 4, 2013 Ken: Yes, the block is just glued to the cothes pin. That worked fairly well, but not as good as some other home made clamps I have used. Honestly, the best clamps I used on this model were the metal paper clips. I was fortunate that I usually only needed a few seconds of finger pressure to set the planks. The clamps were a luxury rather than a necessity. Part of that is due to the small planks, wet bending, and the carpenter's glue, but there is also the hull form to consider. No really sharp bends etc with which to contend. Russ KenW 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
rlb Posted December 4, 2013 #283 Posted December 4, 2013 Not boring at all, Russ. And looking good! Ron Quote Building: US Brig Oneida (1809) HMS Euryalus (1803) Completed: John Alden Sloop
russ Posted December 4, 2013 Author #284 Posted December 4, 2013 Ron:Thanks. With any luck, there might be some more progress on the deck in a bit. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Elia Posted December 4, 2013 #285 Posted December 4, 2013 Russ, The deck planking looks very smart and tidy. It is good seeing you make progress on your schooner. Cheers, Elia Quote Elia Rose Valley, PA Arethusa: 1907 Gloucester Knockabout
russ Posted December 4, 2013 Author #286 Posted December 4, 2013 Elia: Thanks for looking in and for the kind words. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Alfons Posted December 7, 2013 #287 Posted December 7, 2013 Thats some pretty nice planking you have got going Russ. I wish I had added some planking butts on my schooner as well, those really bring an additional level of detail to the model. Keep up the good work. /Alfons Quote Current Build: Gloucester Fishing Schooner - Blue Jacket - Scale 1:48 Next Project: Riva Aquamarine - Amati
russ Posted December 7, 2013 Author #288 Posted December 7, 2013 Alfons: Thanks for the kind words. I am hoping to get a few more planks alid this next week, if everything goes right. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Dave Stick Posted December 8, 2013 #289 Posted December 8, 2013 Lovely stuff, Russ. The planking is looking great! One question regarding the butted planking. Was there a standard length of plank used by the builders throughout the decking? If not what is the rule you are using for the model, please? Dave Quote
russ Posted December 8, 2013 Author #290 Posted December 8, 2013 Dave: Thanks for the kind words. As for deck planking, a general rule of thumb would be 15-20 ft with some fudge factor on either side of those numbers. I have mapped out where deck beams would fall and the deck planking arrnaged so that the butts fall on deck beams. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
Dave Stick Posted December 9, 2013 #291 Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks Russ. Of course, that makes eminently good sense once you have the rough scale length of 15-20ft. Dave Quote
Moonbug Posted January 6, 2014 #292 Posted January 6, 2014 Nice work Russ. Good to catch up on your build(s) again. - Bug Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard
russ Posted January 7, 2014 Author #293 Posted January 7, 2014 Bug: Thanks for looking in and the kind words. I am hoping to have some more work shop time soon. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
popeye the sailor Posted January 21, 2014 #294 Posted January 21, 2014 looking very nice Russ........the starboard side is done {white}. so you'll be painting the port side the same? sweet! decking looks great so far........will look nice when done Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
russ Posted January 21, 2014 Author #295 Posted January 21, 2014 Thanks. Yes, all the railing and outboard will be white and the hull bottom red. Russ popeye the sailor 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
BANYAN Posted January 21, 2014 #296 Posted January 21, 2014 Great to see you making some further progress on this little beauty Russ cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Jim Lad Posted January 21, 2014 #297 Posted January 21, 2014 Slow, but sure, Russ. It's good to see her coming along! John Quote
russ Posted January 21, 2014 Author #298 Posted January 21, 2014 Pat: Thanks. It was nice to get a few minutes in the shop. Hopefully I will get a bit more later today. John: Thanks for looking in. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
WackoWolf Posted January 21, 2014 #299 Posted January 21, 2014 Looking good Russ. Glad to see that your back working on her. Keep the post and pictures coming. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
russ Posted January 21, 2014 Author #300 Posted January 21, 2014 Joe: Thanks. Will do. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
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