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Sam:

Thanks. I was careful to get a good centerline marked on the false deck and the first plank was laid right up against that line. It worked out well so far. :)

 

Russ

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John:

That is exactly right. I am just happy to be making ANY kind of progress. :)

 

Russ

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Russ nice work on the deck planks. I do have a question and it relates to the short beam that is shown affixed to the stanchions near the bow. I notice that there is not a lot of room to tie off under the cleat and I came upon the same situation on my own build ,I was wondering if there is some rule of thumb with regard to the clearances in these areas, especially on boats with low gunwales?

 

Michael

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Michael:

Thanks for the kind words.

 

The cleats were probably not governed by any rule except what the locals had found to work over time. These kinds of cleats were found on many local boats, even today. There is usually an inch or two clearance top and bottom, but I have seen it left pretty tight. There is enough room to wrap a line around the cleat above and below. The range of rigging line diameters on these schooners went from 3/8"-1'2" to maybe 5/8"-3/4" diameter. This cleat was probably used for the jib sheets and maybe halyards as well, depending on what other belaying points were available.

 

By the by, I could have simply used a metal bar through a stanchion, fore and aft, as a cleat. I have seen plenty of examples of that as well.

 

In my local research, I have that such details are usually best taken from contemporary photos. There are no local plans that show these small details, and there is just not enough contemporary oral history to use for guidance on this sort of thing.

 

Russ

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Thanks for the explanation Russ

 

 

By the by, I could have simply used a metal bar through a stanchion, fore and aft, as a cleat. I have seen plenty of examples of that as well.

 

This would in effect be like a horizontal belaying pin, wouldn't it.

 

Michael

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

Other projects  Pilot Cutter 1:500 ;   Maria, 1:2  Now just a memory    

Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

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Michael:

That is more or less what it looks like. Very simple, yet very effective.

 

Russ

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John:

Thanks. The deck is coming along just like I hoped it would so far.

 

Russ

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hi Russ.  I'm interested in your modified close pin clamps. 

Are they made by simply gluing a square piece of wood to one side of the pin?  I assume you can then push up as well as in.

Thanks.

Ken

 

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Ken:

Yes, the block is just glued to the cothes pin. That worked fairly well, but not as good as some other home made clamps I have used.

Honestly, the best clamps I used on this model were the metal paper clips.

 

I was fortunate that I usually only needed a few seconds of finger pressure to set the planks. The clamps were a luxury rather than a necessity. Part of that is due to the small planks, wet bending, and the carpenter's glue, but there is also the hull form to consider. No really sharp bends etc with which to contend. :)

 

Russ

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Ron:
Thanks. With any luck, there might be some more progress on the deck in a bit. :)

 

Russ

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Elia:

Thanks for looking in and for the kind words. 

 

Russ

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Thats some pretty nice planking you have got going Russ. I wish I had added some planking butts on my schooner as well, those really bring an additional level of detail to the model.

 

Keep up the good work.

/Alfons

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Alfons:

Thanks for the kind words. I am hoping to get a few more planks alid this next week, if everything goes right. :)

 

Russ

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Dave:

Thanks for the kind words.

 

As for deck planking, a general rule of thumb would be 15-20 ft with some fudge factor on either side of those numbers. I have mapped out where deck beams would fall and the deck planking arrnaged so that the butts fall on deck beams.

 

Russ

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  • 4 weeks later...

Nice work Russ.  Good to catch up on your build(s) again.

 

- Bug

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Bug:

Thanks for looking in and the kind words. I am hoping to have some more work shop time soon.

 

Russ

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  • 2 weeks later...

looking very nice Russ........the starboard side is done {white}.   so you'll be painting the port side the same?  sweet!    decking looks great so far........will look nice when done  ;)

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Thanks. Yes, all the railing and outboard will be white and the hull bottom red.

 

Russ

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Great to see you making some further progress on this little beauty Russ

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Pat:

Thanks. It was nice to get a few minutes in the shop. Hopefully I will get a bit more later today.

 

John:

Thanks for looking in.

 

Russ

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