yancovitch Posted May 27, 2022 #1 Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) though not a build log as such, i thought i'd share something i've imagined for many many years, at which time, i partly put together a heller soleil royal........i disliked the hull so much, i gave it away....i really don't know if i can do this but i'm sure gonna have fun trying.....will probably be my swan song 😁 and now, marc,neko, was kind enough to share his lines, and i got all inspired again...and marc, hubac, found me a good deal on a kit, which i'm expecting in a few days.... sooooooo....i put the hull together and found a pic of the top bulwarks.....i'll have to wait for the kit to see if i can make it all come together.....mostly working on the revell constitution now, so it will be a while before things come together.....dream on vic dream on.... Edited May 28, 2022 by yancovitch ChrisLBren, chris watton, Hubac's Historian and 7 others 10 Quote
yancovitch Posted June 2, 2022 Author #2 Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) ok ok.....i think i just may be able to make it work.......had to narrow the stern top somewhat and fatten the bottom....but it flows ok..for me it's like making a clay sculpture...add some take some away etc...........the deck distances are less on the build up, but i'll just have to rely on craftistic licence i guess....i may try to shorten that decoration at the bottom, and make the gunport higher....we'll see...waiting for some swiss pear for the exposed planking on the gun decks....will use basswood for the rest, which will be whiteish or black...... it's sure a fun challenge, like searching my brain to find out what makes sense to me....what i can change, and what i'll have to live with....kinda like life 😄.....will only post occasionally, any major resolutions.....my right eye is getting blurry now......i hope i can make it through painting the gold....some guys here have done such a magnificent job, i suffer some anxiety over that prospect.....i mainly wish just to do the hull now, then back to finishing the constitution... i have to work outside of the retirement apts....i wasn't going to do any more wood....but i just had to try this, cause it was on the back of my mind for maybe 30 years.... Edited June 3, 2022 by yancovitch Baker, Bill Morrison, ccoyle and 8 others 11 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted June 5, 2022 #3 Posted June 5, 2022 You know you have my full support, Vic, and it will be fascinating to see what the Heller model looks like with a correct hull volume. You’ll have some interesting work ahead of you at the head, but I know your artistic talents are up to the task! Ian_Grant, Nek0 and mtaylor 3 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
yancovitch Posted June 7, 2022 Author #4 Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) thanks for the encouragement...pretty lonely, the places i go 😄...always experimenting..... Edited June 20, 2022 by yancovitch Hubac's Historian, amateur, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote
yancovitch Posted June 20, 2022 Author #5 Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) got the bow roughed out, and cut out the fillagree background...would like to get on with the planking, but i have to wait, maybe a few weeks for the pearwood i ordered, cause the fellow's saw broke down...bow is extended compared to the kit, and will move the heads outwards....it seems to all fit, so i think the brain strain is over 🙂 only have primitive tools to work with now...gave all away when i moved into the retirement apts.............but i'll make do.... Edited June 24, 2022 by yancovitch Ian_Grant, GrandpaPhil, Nek0 and 8 others 10 1 Quote
yancovitch Posted June 25, 2022 Author #6 Posted June 25, 2022 oh....got fed up with much time wasted by digging into a tray of tools to find what i needed......so........you have no idea what a relief this is!!......whew!!....it's probably what others do, but i'm slow....🙃 Hubac's Historian, GrandpaPhil, Bill Morrison and 3 others 5 1 Quote
yancovitch Posted July 9, 2022 Author #7 Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) ok................got the hull built.....i guess, the most challenging thing i've done....constantly fighting off ''i'm crazy...i'm nuts'' etc.....but i persevered, and ended up with this.....not a work of art, but at least it will give a different perspective to the heller kit, which to me, makes it worth it......i think deck and wales could have been a tiny bit higher at the bow, but that's the way it came out .....painting will be just ok cause i've never had experience with the microscopic before...but all in all i think it will end up looking ok...used a cheap wood lower hull and a quick planking job, because it will be painted..... got the wooden decks from czech republic.....but won't add sails......next...finishing the hull......oh i shortened the fore and main topmasts... i just ball parked it.....ha...the whole ship is a ball park model 😃....next post.....some time in the future...cheers, vc Edited July 9, 2022 by yancovitch theauthenticator, Ondras71, ccoyle and 7 others 8 2 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted July 9, 2022 #8 Posted July 9, 2022 This looks awesome and much more plausibly seaworthy than the Heller kit. And, as a matter of fact, I think you have the forward sheer of the lower wales just right. On the Heller kit, they rise a little too much. You sure do make fast work of a tricky project! Bill Morrison 1 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
yancovitch Posted July 9, 2022 Author #9 Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) guess you're right since i only got the wood a week ago, when i started the planking.....now that the fitting is done, aside from a bit more figuring it out, i think i can now focus on the fiddley-do finishing, which again, will just be ok, as i really wanted to just get it done, so if i died tomorrow, i wouldn't have to be reborn so i could do the darn thing 😄 i'm to old to practice master building , i leave that to people like you 🙂 and thanks for your encouragement marc....and cheers to you.... Edited July 9, 2022 by yancovitch Hubac's Historian, Bill Morrison, Ondras71 and 2 others 3 2 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted July 9, 2022 #10 Posted July 9, 2022 Vic - the pleasure is all mine. I’m so glad to have gotten a sense for you and your talents. As is your wont - you are surely underestimating your finish abilities. It is all coming together fabulously! Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
yancovitch Posted July 9, 2022 Author #11 Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) i build like making a sculpture, not like an experienced meticulous craftsman.... Edited July 14, 2022 by yancovitch Hubac's Historian, Ian_Grant, Ondras71 and 1 other 2 2 Quote
Ondras71 Posted July 9, 2022 #12 Posted July 9, 2022 On 5/27/2022 at 6:00 PM, yancovitch said: though not a build log as such, i thought i'd share something i've imagined for many many years, at which time, i partly put together a heller soleil royal........i disliked the hull so much, i gave it away....i really don't know if i can do this but i'm sure gonna have fun trying.....will probably be my swan song 😁 and now, marc,neko, was kind enough to share his lines, and i got all inspired again...and marc, hubac, found me a good deal on a kit, which i'm expecting in a few days.... sooooooo....i put the hull together and found a pic of the top bulwarks.....i'll have to wait for the kit to see if i can make it all come together.....mostly working on the revell constitution now, so it will be a while before things come together.....dream on vic dream on.... I was very happy to find your next build here. I will be happy to watch. Thank you for continuing.. Hubac's Historian 1 Quote Ondras. Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230 Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576 Member of the organizing club - https://wchs-c-2023.klom-admiral.cz/en
yancovitch Posted July 10, 2022 Author #13 Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) well...i'm quite sure it's gonna work now thank god.....quite a relief.......pic showing the color combination.....hull is going to be finely sanded and re-painted, but i want to let it completely dry before i try.......will now work on cannons and simple ''secure'' mounts for the lower decks and finger out frames for the gunports.....cheers........ Edited July 10, 2022 by yancovitch Knocklouder, Nek0, HardeeHarHar and 6 others 6 3 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted July 10, 2022 #15 Posted July 10, 2022 The difference is astounding. Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
yancovitch Posted July 10, 2022 Author #16 Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) yea i'm quite happy with it.....the gold i always use is sheffield metalic deep 2fl. oz. bottle...it's darker, which i really like.. i just ordered some, but i haven't heard anything yet....it's very hard to find although amazon.ca as it for $43.80 a bottle, amazing.....but as a last resort, if these other fellas don't come through........ ..and i mixed some tamiya flat paints for the blue..a couple of dark blues plus a little grey....hey you guys are up late...12:15 am here.... Edited July 10, 2022 by yancovitch HardeeHarHar and Ondras71 2 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted July 10, 2022 #17 Posted July 10, 2022 Is your plan to merely represent closed port lids, rather than to actually pierce the two lower gundecks? Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
yancovitch Posted July 10, 2022 Author #18 Posted July 10, 2022 am just cutting out the gun ports😁 lmagna, Cirdan and Hubac's Historian 3 Quote
yancovitch Posted July 20, 2022 Author #19 Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) ha...i'm afraid i just can't do these little things well....i guess that's why i always built big 🙂 as much as i tried, i couldn't get it close to neko's drawing, and fit the parts in the kit..i should have made the lower gun decks higher.......but anyways.....hands getting shaky now and i again consider this a ''close enough for jazz'' build, as i can never compete with the meticulous fellas here....and painting those little reliefs??...yuk....i could never do them justice....but i just do what i can....and i think it gives one a good idea of what a full hull would look like....opposed to the shallow pregnant one in the kit..... waiting for more paint to arrive...and cannons are all ready to attach....with squished down carriages 🙃....couldn't get the right spacing between the decks and the gunports.....but again..i think it will look ok in the end........i will attach the cut out reliefs to the inner wall of the stern galleries......cheers........... Edited July 20, 2022 by yancovitch BLACK VIKING, chris watton, HardeeHarHar and 8 others 8 3 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted July 20, 2022 #20 Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) Vic, I think you are being critical to a fault, here. This work is excellent - close enough for Jazz, certainly, and even Classical! Edited July 20, 2022 by Hubac's Historian chris watton and dvm27 2 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
Ian_Grant Posted July 20, 2022 #21 Posted July 20, 2022 She looks superb Vic! I couldn't do that with non-shaky hands............ Quote
Bill Morrison Posted July 20, 2022 #22 Posted July 20, 2022 Vic, Do you plan to fill in the hole in the knee of the head? Bill Ian_Grant 1 Quote
yancovitch Posted July 20, 2022 Author #23 Posted July 20, 2022 oh...thanks for that......i was starting to get discouraged....and yes, i plan to make a mold of the frieze which i cut out on the side of the stern galleries...ordering material from amazon.ca now.... Bill Morrison and chris watton 2 Quote
yancovitch Posted July 24, 2022 Author #24 Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) ok...still lots of touching up to do, but i lowered the two sculptures, and to me it balances much better.......i may re-open the cannon port on the side gallery...haven't decided...all's recessed..... lazy bones method of installing cannon port lids....drilled 4 holes....inserted 2 wires on the bottom, which i'll blacken somehow....inserted braided beading wire on top, which will hold paint better...now i can move the lids without breaking anything...the top lines just slide in and out and stay straight.... working on support for the rails now.....cheers....... Edited July 25, 2022 by yancovitch Baker, Ian_Grant, Snug Harbor Johnny and 6 others 5 1 3 Quote
Baker Posted July 26, 2022 #25 Posted July 26, 2022 A very nice result Great work 👍 Hubac's Historian 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Hubac's Historian Posted July 26, 2022 #26 Posted July 26, 2022 This is an interesting move to lower Africa and the Americas figures; it does seem to lower the whole center of gravity of the stern in a pleasing way. Arguably, they have a more reasonable perch, given the scale of the figures, upon the mid-balcony rail. Baker and Ian_Grant 2 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
yancovitch Posted July 26, 2022 Author #27 Posted July 26, 2022 thanks mucho for the likes, and i'm glad you approve of the lowered figures........haha...and now i know what they're called🙂....and aside from the gun ports being a bit too low, i'm happy with the results, and can enjoy looking at a ship with a feasible hull....thanks to neko, wherever he is 🙄 lots of touching up and finishing to do now...i just needed to get everything in place........no need to post progress, until the hull is finished, after that...... the rigging..... which, for me, is not the fun part 🙂 cheers.... Hubac's Historian, Ian_Grant and Baker 3 Quote
yancovitch Posted July 31, 2022 Author #28 Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) ok....it's probably my last posting until finished, god willing........just wish to show the shape of the hull compared to the heller hull.....the decoration on the stem is temporary, until i figure out something better....and of course, still much finicky finishing to do...and compared to the mess on the inside, it looks ok on the outside 😁..thanks for looking....cheers,........................... vic Edited August 7, 2022 by yancovitch dafi, Hubac's Historian, Nek0 and 6 others 4 1 4 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted July 31, 2022 #29 Posted July 31, 2022 There are so many good things to say about this, Vic, and I will share my thoughts tomorrow, when I have a little more time to focus. As you yourself might say - "good sheww!" HardeeHarHar and Baker 2 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
yancovitch Posted July 31, 2022 Author #30 Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) ahhhhhh...you remember ed sulivan too! 😄 ha...in the sunlight i noticed a few bumps on the hull too, which i may smooth out...and plastic boat in the sunlight is a no no!!😄 bulwark started warping.... Edited July 31, 2022 by yancovitch Quote
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