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HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Fred Healey - FINISHED - 1:48


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On 3/19/2023 at 4:00 PM, reilly said:

Would this cutter carry a 16ft or 18ft cutter on deck

I seriously doubt it would carry a cutter at all, way too big, maybe a jolly boat towed behind. These were fast ships that mostly worked in local waters, a ships boat wasn’t essential would think. As you can see from the deck there is not really a place to easily store one. 

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Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: HMS Winchelsea
Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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I've tried making a few Tom Lauria rope coils. The methodology for making coils seems pretty foolproof though I had poor results with white glue - I used diluted Titebond - and much better results with small amounts of carefully placed CA. The problem I have is getting the coils to lie naturally. I can't see a solution to that at the moment. Still, they don't look to bad. I will certainly settle for them. About another dozen to make and Cheerful will be done!

 

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I think the coils look super---don't knock them-- you did a good job on a great build.

 

HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed  

HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed :)

Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed

HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎

HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed :)

Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway  👍


 

 

 

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The last step of my process for my Cheerful coils was basically to crush them with my fingers, a little squeeze, a little bend. They ended up looking pretty natural. Not sure how that would work with TiteBond, might be worth a try. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: HMS Winchelsea
Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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Those coils look great Fred, very convincing.

I used to make them a similar way but once placed on the model I would place an appropriate sized dowel at the bottom of the coil that was weighted, then I would apply diluted PVA or poly and simply wait for them to dry, extremely tedious but it gave the impression of gravity doing its job very well.

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now)

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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Thanks chaps. I think when all the coils are done I won't be so focused on the ones I presently cannot get to sit as I would like them to sit. I think in any ways these coils are the hardest bit of the model. I will try your weighted dowel trick JJ. I would certainly like the coils to be more "up and down" rather than circular and that might be the answer. At the moment I am experimenting to see what works for me.

Fred

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Had a similar problem until, after positioning as you have done, I painted them with a diluted white glue solution and placed a weight against the bottom, This holds the bent over lower part in position while the glue sets.

Greg

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Thank you Glenn, JJ and Greg for the advice on achieving a realistic look to the rope hanks. I may yet have a further fiddle around with them but for the time being I think I'm going to call my Cheerful finished. Here she is.

 

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I have yet to make a base. That's next up but I'm also thinking about my next project. These are the contenders.

1. Finish the Winnie I started a while ago. I have two issues with that. First some parts I made are just not good enough and will bug me hugely. Secondly I have come to the conclusion after much thought that I prefer fully rigged models.

2. Start over with Winnie, scatch building as much as I can, but make provision for masts and rigging and avoid the mistakes I made on the last Winnie. I think I can make the masts. For the hull I have all Chuck's hard work and expertise though I would like to scatch build as much as I can.

3. Stretch myself and try my hand at a scratch build - I wonder if either Speedwell on bulkheads rather than frames or a Swan class sloop are within my skill range. I have the David Antscherl / Greg Herbert for the latter. I think frames are probably too complex for me however. I don't have their  2 volume Speedwell books which include building Speedwell on bulkheads which may be build-able by me: at least I can have a go. I think I'll get the books and have a think about things.

 

In the meantime: thank you Chuck for Cheerful. I loved building her.

 

All the best everyone

Fred 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Fred, I really like what you have accomplished here and I will be extremely happy if I can match your standards with my own build. You are just finishing and I am just starting out which is great for me as I can use your example (along with a couple of others belonging to builders represented on this very page) to inspire me along the way.

Thank you

Paul

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Wonderful work Fred, definitely a result to be proud of. Very well done, fine craftsmanship in the details that separate Cheerful from other models. You’ve done a great job.

 

While I’d like to see you back at Winchelsea and if you decide Speedwell is too much as a full scratch consider Vanguard models like Sphinx or Indy for fully rigged opportunities. I think Chuck’s intends to rig his Speedwell, but I imagine that’s a ways down the road. 
 

At any rate I look forward to following you next project. 

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: HMS Winchelsea
Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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I had missed your posting of this build earlier. It is truly lovely!!!!

I stopped my Winchelsea build for a number of reasons recently and went back to my Cheerful. It has so much merit as your build loudly proclaims.

I will pick up the Winchelsea again as soon as I finish ny Cheerful after an unsatisfying start on the her. I made a number of mistakes as well and I think that has a lot to do with one's mindset about the project. From the looks of your work you are capable of any path you choose.

Joe

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Thank you both Pauls, Glenn and Joe for your kind words.

 

I have looked closely at Vanguard models. Both the Sphinx and Indy  look as though they make up to wonderful models but I would like to go in the other  direction - scratch building as much as I can  - whereas Chris's models appear (I've never seen one - only looked in on the build logs) to contain many pre-cut patrs for assembly. I'm sure they still reward the skilled and patient builder but, as I say, I want to reverse the semi-scratch building path that  Cheerful takes you down. I'm also sold on 1/48 rather than 1/64.

 

I have placed my order with Seawatch for both volumes of the Antscherl/Herbert Speedwell book. Wish me luck!

 

Fred

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Congratulations on finishing your Cheerful.  Your attention to detail and your craftsmanship made this model quite impressive.

Ryland

 

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Beautiful work Fred! Congratulations on your cheerful, she’s a wonderful achievement! Looking forward to your next build, whatever it may be. A fully rigged Winnie would be very cool to see.

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now)

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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