Patrick B Posted December 14, 2022 #1 Posted December 14, 2022 The ship finally arrived! wvdhee, Knocklouder, clearway and 5 others 8 Quote
VTHokiEE Posted December 14, 2022 #2 Posted December 14, 2022 Quite an exciting event! Possibly the last time for a while that you'll have a clean workspace as well 😉 - Have fun! clearway and Patrick B 1 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
Patrick B Posted December 15, 2022 Author #3 Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) Little bit of an uptade here, I asembled the hull (squeleton) and started sanding it at the bow. I made some place in my cabinet. You can also see the plate they sent me with thr name of the ship. A nice touch to me. Everything seemed to be in the package. Keep in mind that this is my first (real) ship, as I already made a cheap knockoff of some boat bought on aliexpress. I know I shouldn't have but I didn't want to ruin a costly kit. I have learned of my mistakes from this little boat. One of them was to chose price over quality. Haha Many people seemed to agree that this ship (Beagle) from occre was a great beginner kit. I liked the amount of details for such a small price (≈180 cad)! Edited December 15, 2022 by Patrick B Cathead, Prowler901 and Knocklouder 3 Quote
Patrick B Posted December 15, 2022 Author #4 Posted December 15, 2022 5 hours ago, VTHokiEE said: Quite an exciting event! Possibly the last time for a while that you'll have a clean workspace as well 😉 - Have fun! Haha, you're right. No to mention the layers of sawdust on the floor! Quote
Patrick B Posted December 17, 2022 Author #5 Posted December 17, 2022 Hi, I have a concern about wood essence. I know that the brown stripes are sapelli, but they say that there is sycamore and lime wood, both at 0.6mm of thickness. Is there a difference or I shouldn't matter. Chook and Cathead 2 Quote
OllieS Posted December 21, 2022 #6 Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) I couldn't find a difference either, some strips have a sort of barred horizontal pattern but it is very variable: it's a less or more thing rather than yes or no. I ended up using the least barred for the deck which was just stained and the others for everything else where it would be less obvious. By the way the OcCre Beagle has a lot of details and a lot of scope for (easy) improvements. It is an excellent choice! Edited December 21, 2022 by OllieS additional comment Patrick B and Cathead 2 Quote
Patrick B Posted December 22, 2022 Author #7 Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) Hi, some minor improvement on the deck. I have cut each strips 60mm in lenght and ran a lead pencil against it to simulate caulking. I think I will try staining it in sapelli dye or meaby just put some flaxseed oil. My only concern is that I fear that the lead will smear... Has anyone ever tried this before, oiling up a deck? Edited December 22, 2022 by Patrick B Michiel, Prowler901, Cathead and 1 other 4 Quote
RossR Posted December 22, 2022 #8 Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) Quote Hi, some minor improvement on the deck. I have cut each strips 60mm in lenght and ran a lead pencil against it to simulate caulking. I think I will try staining it in sapelli dye or meaby just put some flaxseed oil. My only concern is that I fear that the lead will smear... Has anyone ever tried this before, oiling up a deck? I have used this technique and didn't have any issue with the lead smearing when I stained the deck. I used minwax oil based stain and have used polyurethane and shellac over the stain with good results. Good luck. Edited December 22, 2022 by RossR Cathead and Patrick B 2 Quote Completed Build: HMS Beagle - Occre Current Builds: Frigate Diana - Occre https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33530-frigate-diana-by-rossr-occre-185/ Santisima Trinidad - Occre - Cross Section https://modelshipworld.com/topic/37130-santisima-trinidad-by-rossr-occre-190-cross-section/ On the Shelf: NRG Half Hull, the US Brig Syren - Model Shipways and USF Essex - Model Shipways
RobTBay Posted December 22, 2022 #9 Posted December 22, 2022 I noticed in the parts list for this kit that there are a couple of "typos". I think it's possible that all to the 0.6 x 5 mm strips are sycamore (except the sapelli!) and all the other dimension pieces (1 x 3 mm, 2 x 2 mm, etc.) are lime. There is only one line in the parts list where the 0.6 x 5 mm strips are listed as lime. I can't find any of the 0.6 x 5 mm strips to be any different from each other, but I think I could make the claim that they do look slightly different than the other dimension material (??). Rob Patrick B 1 Quote
Cathead Posted December 22, 2022 #10 Posted December 22, 2022 Great prototype, I'll enjoy following along. Patrick B 1 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
Capella Posted December 25, 2022 #11 Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Just ordered this very same ship from Occre about an hour ago. I'll be watching your log VERY closely. 😉 By the way , how long did it take to arrive after you ordered it? Edited December 26, 2022 by Capella Patrick B 1 Quote First build: US Ranger - Corel Second build: HMS Beagle - OcCre
Patrick B Posted December 27, 2022 Author #12 Posted December 27, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 6:00 PM, Capella said: Just ordered this very same ship from Occre about an hour ago. I'll be watching your log VERY closely. 😉 By the way , how long did it take to arrive after you ordered it? Hi, it took more time than said so. I live in Canada, so the supposed delivery time was 7 working days. However, it took 11 working days plus 5-6 days for them to make the package before even sending it. As I sais, it depends from where you live in the world. Hope this answers your question. Tell us when you will start your build log. I will follow along too. Capella 1 Quote
Patrick B Posted December 28, 2022 Author #13 Posted December 28, 2022 Hi everyone, I know christmas day has passed but anyway, yesterday I : Decked the hallways... Cathead, Capella and Prowler901 1 2 Quote
Patrick B Posted December 28, 2022 Author #15 Posted December 28, 2022 And... Nailed it! DonSangria, ccoyle, Prowler901 and 4 others 7 Quote
Capella Posted December 28, 2022 #16 Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Patrick B said: Hi everyone, I know christmas day has passed but anyway, yesterday I : Decked the hallways... Maybe "Decked the walkways" would be more appropriate? Looks good! Patrick B and DonSangria 2 Quote First build: US Ranger - Corel Second build: HMS Beagle - OcCre
allanyed Posted December 29, 2022 #17 Posted December 29, 2022 Hi Patrick Very neatly done. It seems odd to me to see a two butt shift pattern, rather 3 or 4. Is this a kit convention or were you able to find this in a contemporary source? Thanks for sharing your build with us. Allan Patrick B and Cathead 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
Patrick B Posted December 29, 2022 Author #18 Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) On 12/29/2022 at 6:26 AM, allanyed said: Hi Patrick Very neatly done. It seems odd to me to see a two butt shift pattern, rather 3 or 4. Is this a kit convention or were you able to find this in a contemporary source? Thanks for sharing your build with us. Allan Yes, it is a kit convention. Althought I know that a 3-4 butt patern and a king (I think) plank would be correct, I found this one more pleasing to the eye. Thanks for the attention thought. Edit: sorry, my faut, it wasn't a kit convention, I misinterpreted the plans here. Oups Edited January 16, 2023 by Patrick B Mr Whippy, allanyed and The Gimps Chimp 3 Quote
Patrick B Posted December 29, 2022 Author #19 Posted December 29, 2022 New update: I scratch built the doors because I didn't like the photo-edged ones from the kit. I took 2 pieces of sycamore and stained them with the sapelli stain from Occre (works well). I then added two strips of sycamore that I carved and rounded the side. I made a door frame, a door knob with a nail and finally, I enhanced the carving with a citadel wash. Mr Whippy, The Gimps Chimp, clearway and 8 others 10 1 Quote
Capella Posted January 7, 2023 #20 Posted January 7, 2023 On 12/28/2022 at 12:35 PM, Patrick B said: And... Nailed it! I like your choice of how you "decked the walkways", but it looks like it may have been a bit tedious. I'm nearly ready to plank my own Beagle's deck. I'm not terribly concerned about historical accuracy, so I'm wondering if you're happy with your choice and if you have any other thoughts about it. Patrick B 1 Quote First build: US Ranger - Corel Second build: HMS Beagle - OcCre
Patrick B Posted January 7, 2023 Author #21 Posted January 7, 2023 You're right, it was tedious, but worth it in my opinion. One thing though, plank one side of the mast's hole and cut it before gluing the other one. Something else, don't press too hard with your mechanical pencil, because the lead may break. I happened to me (see photo) Overall, it makes an impressive work when finished and sanded. Don't go by the instructions. They tell you to glue the plank and then add the caulking from lead. I'll just make a mess and wont be neat. Afterall, do what you prefer. Patrick Mr Whippy, Knocklouder, Capella and 1 other 4 Quote
Patrick B Posted January 9, 2023 Author #22 Posted January 9, 2023 Hi guys, I just finished the doors. So much better than the photoedged ones. Boerscht, Knocklouder, The Gimps Chimp and 5 others 8 Quote
RossR Posted January 9, 2023 #23 Posted January 9, 2023 Those look great. I wish I had done that on my Beagle. Mr Whippy, The Gimps Chimp and Patrick B 2 1 Quote Completed Build: HMS Beagle - Occre Current Builds: Frigate Diana - Occre https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33530-frigate-diana-by-rossr-occre-185/ Santisima Trinidad - Occre - Cross Section https://modelshipworld.com/topic/37130-santisima-trinidad-by-rossr-occre-190-cross-section/ On the Shelf: NRG Half Hull, the US Brig Syren - Model Shipways and USF Essex - Model Shipways
Patrick B Posted January 15, 2023 Author #24 Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) Poop deck planked and nailed, on to the "aft deck" ? Edited January 21, 2023 by Patrick B Mr Whippy, Prowler901 and Cathead 3 Quote
Patrick B Posted January 22, 2023 Author #25 Posted January 22, 2023 The "aft deck ?" is completed and nailed. I glued it in place and added one of the sides of gunholes using only the provided nails and saoking it in hot water for a bit. The Gimps Chimp and Prowler901 2 Quote
Patrick B Posted January 22, 2023 Author #26 Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) Question: Yesterday, I went to my local hardware store and bought the Watco Tung oil. I plan on using it over pretty much every wooden part of the build. Any suggestions on application and usage? I didn't want to use varnish because it would leave a film all over the nice woodgrain. I hesitated a bit over tung oil and boiled linseed oil, but the linseed oil bottle mentionned that it had a poor shelf life and could darken a lot porous wood, wich is most of the wood I received. Edited January 22, 2023 by Patrick B Cathead 1 Quote
Patrick B Posted February 4, 2023 Author #27 Posted February 4, 2023 I started marking one side of the hull for the first layer of planking. From what I can see, I will probably need a drop plank and it's opposite at the other end. Cathead, ccoyle and Prowler901 3 Quote
Capella Posted February 4, 2023 #28 Posted February 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, Patrick B said: I will probably need a drop plank and it's opposite at the other end. New term for me! What is it and why do you think you need it? Quote First build: US Ranger - Corel Second build: HMS Beagle - OcCre
Patrick B Posted February 5, 2023 Author #29 Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) A drop plank or a stealer is a way to condense or enlarge either the bow or the stern. I think a picture will explain it better than me. Just write drop plank on google and try a look at Chuck's hull. It looks like a hook. Edited February 5, 2023 by Patrick B Quote
allanyed Posted February 5, 2023 #30 Posted February 5, 2023 Drop strake can be seen below the wale Stealer aft ccoyle, Patrick B and Capella 1 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
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