KennyH78 Posted December 27, 2023 #1 Posted December 27, 2023 So I got some happy mail today from Chuck! The laser cut pieces for Chapter 1 minus the bulkheads and bulkhead former. I elected to go with cherry wood. My plan for the bulkheads and former is to cut them out on my X-Carve CNC. My first step is to take the pdf files and get them loaded up in the program; hopefully at the right scale. Chuck, scrubbyj427, mgatrost and 10 others 13 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
Chuck Posted December 27, 2023 #2 Posted December 27, 2023 Glad to see you join the group....Have fun with the project!!! and Happy New Year!!! KennyH78, James G, FrankWouts and 1 other 4 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
glbarlow Posted December 27, 2023 #3 Posted December 27, 2023 Welcome, Winchelsea is a great project, I’m over two years into mine. Matt D, FrankWouts, James G and 2 others 5 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Matt D Posted December 28, 2023 #4 Posted December 28, 2023 Welcome to the Winnie group, Kenny! I'm looking forward to seeing your CNC work. KennyH78, James G and FrankWouts 3 Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41
KennyH78 Posted December 28, 2023 Author #5 Posted December 28, 2023 Thank you for the warm welcomes and Happy New Year to you all! This build will be slow going to start with since my CNC’s main job is to make me money to feed my hobbies. I am currently working on importing the bulkhead PDFs and getting ready to cut a test bulkhead to ensure that I got them sized correctly. James G and FrankWouts 2 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
James G Posted December 28, 2023 #6 Posted December 28, 2023 Welcome Kenny! I started my Winnie about a year ago. Just beginning Chapter 2. A great model and a great group here. Lots of support whenever you need it. Looking forward to watching your progress! FrankWouts and KennyH78 2 Jim Current Build: HMS Winchelsea, Model Shipways Mayflower Completed Builds: NRG Half Hull Project Model Shipways 18th Century Armed Longboat Dumas 1954 Chris Craft 36' Commander Dumas 1940 Chris Craft 19' Barrel Back
KennyH78 Posted December 30, 2023 Author #7 Posted December 30, 2023 So I have started the process of getting the bulkhead PDF files converted into a file type that my CNC likes; SVG. I have also went ahead and did a test cut of 2 of the bulkheads to see if I got the measurements right. As you can see by the pictures below, I have them sized a little too small. I will adjust the sizes of them in the program and cut them again on some more scrap 1/8" ply that I have laying around. FrankWouts, James G, Chuck and 1 other 4 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
glbarlow Posted December 30, 2023 #8 Posted December 30, 2023 These require a lot of fairing once installed plus the reference marks are very handy lining up the wales and gun ports. I hope your wood choice works out for you FrankWouts 1 Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
KennyH78 Posted December 31, 2023 Author #9 Posted December 31, 2023 Glenn, I’m sure it will. The plywood seen above is not what I will be using for the skeleton. These are just test pieces to ensure that all of my settings are correct in the CNC program glbarlow and FrankWouts 2 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
KennyH78 Posted January 8 Author #10 Posted January 8 My order of 6 sheets of 1/4 x 12 x 24 midwest plywood came yesterday. After letting the wood acclimate to my environment in the packaging for 24 hrs, I am almost ready to make a little saw dust. Impatience has gotten the best of me, so I have decided to cut the bulkheads and the former pieces with my trusting old scroll saw. I kinda feel like that will be less stressful as well. The CNC does exactly what you tell it to do; and if my calculations are off by just little bit, then all of that plywood becomes firewood. So, I have all of the bulkhead and former templates cut out and glued onto the plywood; got them all to fit on the 6 sheets. I will start cutting them out later today or tomorrow. James G, ccoyle, FrankWouts and 6 others 9 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
FrankWouts Posted January 9 #11 Posted January 9 (edited) Hello Kenny, Welcome to the Winchelsea project from me too and Happy New Year! Also you have my deepest respect cutting all the bulkheads yourself on the scroll saw... A lot of extra work I'm too lazy doing myself I'm afraid LOL... But your plan and preparation look superb to my eye! Have fun! Frank. Edited January 10 by FrankWouts KennyH78 and Gregory 2 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Prior builds on MSW: None
Matt D Posted January 10 #12 Posted January 10 Hi Kenny. I don’t know anything about your conversion process, but if it involves the print function, you will need to make sure the scale is set to 100%. Read my log for a tale of whoa and despair over that error. James G and FrankWouts 1 1 Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41
KennyH78 Posted January 10 Author #13 Posted January 10 Thanks for the tip Matt @Matt D. I have already read through a few build logs and made sure that my bulkhead templates were printed to scale using the scale that Chuck added to the PDFs. Once I get the false keel cut and fitted, I will check it against the plans. Progress is slow on this one, life tends to get in the way a lot. FrankWouts and James G 2 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
KennyH78 Posted January 14 Author #14 Posted January 14 Started cutting out the bulkheads and false keel. So far I only have bulkheads K-W cut out and mostly shaped. My process is to cut them out on the scroll saw staying outside of the line at around 1/16-1/8 of an inch. As you can see, I am not that great at it. Then I take the bulkheads to my spindle sander and sand up to the pencil line on all of the areas the spindle will reach. The rest will be hand sanded to the line. The slots where the bulkhead slides onto the false keel will be sanded to fit to ensure a good tight fit on the false keel. I have also cut out all three pieces of the false keel and carefully sanded the puzzle piece connections to get a good tight fit. I still need to file/sand the slots for the bulkheads, but plan to do that in conjunction with each bulkhead to ensure a good fit. Rustyj, Vladimir_Wairoa, JeffT and 6 others 9 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
KennyH78 Posted January 23 Author #15 Posted January 23 Well, I'm back at cutting out bulkheads. I was able to get 7-8 of the rough cut out today. I will get them all sanded up the lines after they are all cut out. Bulkheads K-W and the forward most false keel piece had to be scraped. The forward false keel piece didn't look quite right against the other 2 pieces and when I put the dry fitted assembly up against the plans, I could clearly see why. Seems that the printer I used to print the templates did not print them to 100 scale. I reprinted them all, checked the scale bar on the last page and everything is good now. Just had wait another week for more plywood sheets. So bulkheads K-W will have to be recut as well. Not sure what went wrong, I used the same setting for the printer (same printer); only difference is the computer that was used to send the files to the printer (I printed them at work; don't tell my boss). Anyways, all is good now and I am back on track. Chuck, glbarlow, FrankWouts and 8 others 11 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
Chuck Posted January 23 #16 Posted January 23 Onward and upward!!! KennyH78 and FrankWouts 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
KennyH78 Posted January 26 Author #17 Posted January 26 A quick update to the build; all of the bulkheads and bulkhead former pieces along with the stern and stem filler pieces have been rough cut out of lite ply 1/4" thick. Next up is the tedious task of final shaping all the pieces per the templates. I will also take care to ensure that all of the bulkheads fit snugly into their respective slots on the bulkhead former and that all 3 pieces of the bulkhead fit snugly together. No power tools for this task, just needle files and 80 grit sanding sticks. Doing it by hand gives me greater control to finesse the pieces to their final shapes. I hope to be able to get this done in about a week or so, but am in no rush. It is clear that these initial steps in building the skeleton are a crucial step to having a great model at the end. Matt D, JpR62, Freebird and 3 others 5 1 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
KennyH78 Posted February 10 Author #18 Posted February 10 Thank you for all of the likes. Progress is moving along, even if it is at a snail's pace. I got bulkheads K-W fitted to the forward former. The forward former piece is also fitted to the middle former piece. The bulkheads are only dry fitted right now. Working on the middle former piece now along with bulkheads I through 9. I also cut out the pieces for the skeleton hold up clamps on my X-Carve. So far I have 2 of them assembled; only 4 more to go. Once I get these all assembled and the bulkhead former completed, I will make the build board for the model. As always, thanks for looking in on my log; any and all comments are welcomed. James G, Chuck, Wacom and 5 others 8 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
scrubbyj427 Posted February 11 #19 Posted February 11 Nice job cutting those bulkheads! What ply did you use? KennyH78 and FrankWouts 2 Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship
KennyH78 Posted February 11 Author #20 Posted February 11 1 hour ago, scrubbyj427 said: What ply did you use? The ply that I used is 1/4” basswood ply that I bought off of Amazon. I got 6 sheets of 12x24 for $36. So far I have had zero issues with it. https://www.amazon.com/Basswood-Unfinished-Plywood-Rectangular-Architectural/dp/B0CG4JHZKR/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3MB3KVILE9HBK&keywords=6%2BPack%2B12%2Bx%2B24%2Bx%2B1%2F4%2BInch-6mm%2BThick%2BBasswood%2BSheets%2Bfor%2BCrafts%2BUnfinished%2BPlywood%2BSheets%2BRectangular%2BWood%2BPanel%2BBoards%2Bfor%2BDIY%2BLaser%2BProject%2C%2BWood%2BBurning%2C%2BEngraving%2C%2BArchitectural%2BModels%2C%2BStaining&qid=1707695587&sprefix=6%2Bpack%2B12%2Bx%2B24%2Bx%2B1%2F4%2Binch-6mm%2Bthick%2Bbasswood%2Bsheets%2Bfor%2Bcrafts%2Bunfinished%2Bplywood%2Bsheets%2Brectangular%2Bwood%2Bpanel%2Bboards%2Bfor%2Bdiy%2Blaser%2Bproject%2C%2Bwood%2Bburning%2C%2Bengraving%2C%2Barchitectural%2Bmodels%2C%2Bstaining%2Caps%2C110&sr=8-1&th=1 scrubbyj427 and FrankWouts 2 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
KennyH78 Posted February 17 Author #21 Posted February 17 A quick update on the build. All 10 bulkheads that fit onto the midship former have been finish shaped and fitted to the former with sanding sticks and files. I have also fitted all 3 former pieces to each other and will start working on the slots of the stern former and bulkheads in the next week. James G, CiscoH, FrankWouts and 4 others 6 1 Kenny Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea MS US Frigate Confederacy On Hold: Continental Frigate Raleigh 1777 Completed Builds: MS 18th Century Longboat Dinghy - Midwest Kit H.M.S Triton Cross Section 1/48 Chesapeake Bay Flattie - Midwest Kit Future Builds: MS English Pinnace; OcCre Endurance; Revenue Cutter Cheerful
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