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The attached photo is of a ship in the background of an early 19th-century portrait either produced in Spain or possibly the New World. 
I know more about paintings than ships and identifying anything specific about the rigging has been difficult...not only because some areas appear to be generalizations and others appear to have been abraded.  
So far I've gathered that this could be considered something like a brig or maybe a brigatine or topsail schooner? Any small detail or thought could be of significance to the origin of the painting. Ignore the thin red pennant, it's a restoration. The original is underneath and appears to be shorter, wider, and with three stripes. 
Any thoughts on this ship will be greatly appreciated!
 

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Welcome, Tula!

 

The rig is a double-topsail schooner. The artist appears to have had at least some knowledge of ship construction, although, at least to my eye, the hull is very crude in comparison to the rigging. This would have been a very common type of ship on both sides of the Atlantic during the time period you mention. That's about all I can add to the conversation.

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

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Are you sure that the ship belong to Spain or new world?

to me it seems an Austro-hungaric flag: the flag colour seems more Red/white than red/yellow...

like that type of ship portrait (just an example, it is not the same ship)

In anycase, it is rather impossible to identify the ship: too small in terms of size and too common in that historical period.

In addition, to me the painting appears a ship portrait, so usually it was the only visual information existent about a ship.

 

 

 

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Edited by Cristiano

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