muggebigge Posted December 20, 2013 Share #31 Posted December 20, 2013 nice to see a swedish boat.I have built the Mariefred by NCB,and have to say its a wery good kit.Hope the Bohuslän its the same.And a very big welcom to MSW..Regards from Per-Olof Quote ..HMS victory by muggebigge ( jotika/caldercraft) Motoryacht by muggebigge (freebuild) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uheynitz Posted December 21, 2013 Share #32 Posted December 21, 2013 Hello puckotred, Not yet, I will start the next days. Did you find the Bohuslän in the Harbour? I made some detail fotos some years ago and will post them in the next days. regards Uwe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted December 21, 2013 Share #33 Posted December 21, 2013 Something completely different! I like it! Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uheynitz Posted December 21, 2013 Share #34 Posted December 21, 2013 I scanned some Detail Photos of Bohuslän I made 30 years ago in Gothenburg. I guess they are helpful for model building, I made them for this case. The file is 21MB, you can find it here. Regards, Uwe Mirabell61 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share #35 Posted December 21, 2013 Thanks per & per ;-) and thanks for the pics Uwe. They will be most usefull. Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted December 22, 2013 Share #36 Posted December 22, 2013 I scanned some Detail Photos of Bohuslän I made 30 years ago in Gothenburg. I guess they are helpful for model building, I made them for this case. The file is 21MB, you can find it here. Regards, Uwe Top Pictures Uwe !, can highly recommend for all Bohuslän modelers to share this link with you, Who knows how Long the old Lady will still be afloat in such remarkable condition many thanks Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share #37 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Hello and a happy new year. A small update, Here is the double frames where the planks will meet in the middle: I would have prefered to do a overlapping of the planks at the two middle frames but the planks are too short for that. They are supplied in two lengths with the shorter that fits the rear. I also missed this problem with the deck and had to break it up again. First two planks: The deck shape does not follow the shape that the planks make at the frames... A lot of heavy sanding and use of woodfiller to come. I found out that the thin veneer supplied is VERY bristle an breaks very easy. It breaks even when I try to sand it so one has to sand with a light touch and so takes a lot of time... This is as far as I got yesterday... Edited January 5, 2014 by puckotred yvesvidal, msberkman, Captain Slog and 1 other 4 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted January 2, 2014 Share #38 Posted January 2, 2014 Looks like you're making good progress. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share #39 Posted January 2, 2014 Thanks john, it's just so BIG. keep bumping it into stuff when I turn it around etc. have to clear the dining room table everytime I turn the hull 90 degrees. And the ol' Moo I share blanket with is starting to have doubts on where it should go when (if) it's finished. Mirabell61 and ronkh 2 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uheynitz Posted January 4, 2014 Share #40 Posted January 4, 2014 That's where I am so far. puckotred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uheynitz Posted January 4, 2014 Share #41 Posted January 4, 2014 Hi, puckotret, do you think it would be better to take balsa-stripes to plank the hull? I guess if I take stripes 100cm long they must fit to the hull… Uwe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share #42 Posted January 5, 2014 hello Uwe, Wish I had a building cradle like that when I assembled the frames. It would have made life easier.... I don't know how hard it would be to handle 1 metre long planks, but what I would have done is this: The white is how the planks meet now. The bluish is the preferred way of doing it. Letting the planks meet overlapped. I imagine the planks would be more manageable. IgorSky, yvesvidal and uheynitz 3 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfons Posted January 5, 2014 Share #43 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Perhaps a stupid question, is it impossible to have the planks met at any normal frame, rather than just on the double one? One other way to go is to fit extra pieces of Wood to each frame, thus achieving "meeting points" wherever you desire. Slightly more time consuming though, but I think that would make for a stronger hull, especially considering the challenge regarding sanding that you mentioned. Did you consider putting balsa blocks between the frames in the bow and stern sections? That would certainly make planking easier once you start to get to more curved planks. Just my thoughts, sorry for the lenghty post. Keep up the good work. /Alfons Edited January 5, 2014 by Alfons Quote Current Build: Gloucester Fishing Schooner - Blue Jacket - Scale 1:48 Next Project: Riva Aquamarine - Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share #44 Posted January 5, 2014 The bow is pretty sharp, and at the stern the heaviest curve are the 4 first planks. And the four aft most frames have no gluing points on the section above deck... so no balsa fillers there... Having shorter planks and more "meeting points" is a good idea. (Though more joints to fill and sand) There's 8 to 13 cm between each frame. Half of that would be nice. Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfons Posted January 5, 2014 Share #45 Posted January 5, 2014 Ok, Is there a second layer of planks as well? Or just singel planking. /Alfons Quote Current Build: Gloucester Fishing Schooner - Blue Jacket - Scale 1:48 Next Project: Riva Aquamarine - Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share #46 Posted January 5, 2014 Single planking. But as the planks are not to be seen I can use as much filler I want need to. A kilo or two will do I suppose... Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uheynitz Posted January 5, 2014 Share #47 Posted January 5, 2014 Hi, puckotred, I prefer long planks, one from bow to stern. I am so far to start planking and will try to use balsa. I will report how it works. But you're right: It's not a model for beginners… :mellow: Uwe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share #48 Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Hello boys and girls, time for a little update. Dreading the planking I thought I'd try doing some small fiddly bits. The capstan. What the manual calls Plexi and what I called plastic turned out to be Plexi actually.. I don't know if it's laser-cut or punched out but there's no spruces or moulding traces or anything. Just a small push and the parts pop out. NICE! Lots of small discs to assemble. A mix of Plexi and metal. They might as well had made this part in Plexi since all the teeth had to be filed clean. It also was too thick. The Plexi has more detail. Looked a little better after painting. I use red ochre. Shaft way too long. Each square on the cutting mat is 5 cm. I have painted the rest of the capstan but forgot to take a picture of it The top shaft is also protruding in the wrong direction. Will fix this. :mellow: Here you see the original. Some detail is lacking on the model but nothing that bothers me too much. The lack of detail is worst further on in the build. Edited June 21, 2014 by puckotred Aussie048, cristikc, Alfons and 5 others 8 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share #49 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Hello again Small update. The build is slow as I'm doing a couple of others as well. Planking continues: Some of the frames are spaced extremely far from each other. having problems getting the planks to lay in line between them. Good thing I've ordered extra filler. The stand is not wide enough for the finished hull. I lay a couple of planks every odd day. No hurry since I can't start sanding until spring closes in. -5 degrees C now... way too cold for outdoor sanding. Until next time... Edited June 21, 2014 by puckotred hexnut, yvesvidal, GuntherMT and 3 others 6 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share #50 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Hey !! I'm one of those people ! That's OK, the wife calls me that too. Never-the-less, please make a build log of this interesting ship. Montani semper liberi Happy modeling Crackers Thanks Crackers Edited January 21, 2014 by puckotred Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Y Posted June 20, 2014 Share #51 Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) Very interesting build! That archiepelago ships have their charm Would you mind if I pull the chair? Oh, glad midsommar, btw! Edited June 20, 2014 by Mike Y Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share #52 Posted June 21, 2014 Hello Mike, A late Happy Midsummer's Eve to you as well. The build is on hold for the time being. Having problems with the planking showing through on the hull. Sanded and used filler 6 times now on entire hull. Still looks like a planked ship... Thinking of using fiber glass cloth and resin, but if the planking still shows I'll scrap the model. Also some of the thin plywood is horribly bristle.... breaks if you stare at it too hard.... Mike Y 1 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholm tar Posted June 21, 2014 Share #53 Posted June 21, 2014 Puckotred, As Mike said, interesting build, but I too am surprised at how few frames she has. She should really have many more, to give the hull the correct shape, as it is obvious that a plank is going to go the shortest route between frames – ie. in a straight line, if it's allowed to. Some of the other methods used are surprising too! Good luck with her, I'm sure you'll find solutions! You and Mike keep warm, with these cold winds! Mike Y 1 Quote Kester Current builds: Sherbourne (Caldercraft) scale – 1/64th; Statsraad Lehmkuhl (half model) 1/8th" – 1'. Victory Bow Section (Panart/Mantua) scale – 1/78th (on hold). Previous build: Bluenose ll (Billings) scale – 1/100th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share #54 Posted June 21, 2014 My Seventh filler session: Stockholm tar, yvesvidal, Mirabell61 and 6 others 9 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfons Posted June 23, 2014 Share #55 Posted June 23, 2014 Mr.Pucko. Based on the pictures, it doesnt look to bad. You might want to consider appyling a few layers of primer to the brittle structures. In my experience, the primer adds a bit of strenght to the wood. I use the acetone based primer from Eskader, it works great. Just be careful to sand in between the different layers, as the wood grains raise quite a bit when subjected to the primer. Keep up the good work, and please dont scrap her! /Alfons. Quote Current Build: Gloucester Fishing Schooner - Blue Jacket - Scale 1:48 Next Project: Riva Aquamarine - Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share #56 Posted July 7, 2014 Hi all, Still sanding and filling the hull. It seems as summer has settled here in Göteborg so perhaps now I will have some time on the kit. yesterday I told the kids what I'd do with the kit if it didn't behave soon and got carried away. Broke of a piece of the bow and have to do some more sanding etc.... Kids NOT impressed! I also have a lot of yards and stuff for a couple of other builds to run through my lathe before winter is back. (have to do this outside) Hopefully I cans start planking the deck soon.... Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHoldinghausen Posted July 7, 2014 Share #57 Posted July 7, 2014 Building this has been a dream I have had since I was a kid.. So...I guess I will pull up a chair and follow Well done this far! She could for sure have needed some more frames. Strange. Cheers! Quote Finishing Titanic 1/350 scale from Minicraft, Plastic. Partly scratch. Loads of PhotoEtch. Upcoming builds: Syren from MS 1:64, Pegasus from Victory Models 1:64, Surprise from AL 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristikc Posted July 7, 2014 Share #58 Posted July 7, 2014 Nice and interesting. The first time i see a Sweden made model ship. It looks the the quality is not the best, but looks ok to me. What is the price, compare with the clasical kits: Amati, Corel, Mantua, Mamoli, Occre and the others? I will look close to your ship, is interesting. Al the best Cristi Quote Current build : Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Finished: San John the Baptist - Cross section Santisima Trinidad - Cross section Galery Santisima San John the Baptist ( San Juan Bautista) Galery San John HMS Victory 1805 - Cross section - Corel 1:98 scale Panart (Mantua) 740 Battle Station Battle Station Panart 740 Galerry On Hold: HMS Bounty 1:64 Mamoli MV39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share #59 Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Welcome VonHoldinghausen... more frames and stiffer planking would be nice... cristikc: The model is made in Turkey by Türkmodel on behalf of Nordic Atlast, so it's not really Swedish. The kit cost me about €280 including the LED lightning. For comparison: here in Sweden the "Granado" by Amati costs €451. So when or if I finish this it will be a lot of ship for the money. Edited July 7, 2014 by puckotred Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share #60 Posted July 18, 2014 Small update. Doing some interior. Building up the cafe in the rear. Dry fitting Parts are curved. When I soak them they straighten out, but curve again when they dry. Even when I clamp them. Some parts I can straighten by gluing them together and the others are hopefully not too visible when painted and enclosed by roof etc. tarbrush and Captain Slog 2 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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