shipaholic Posted October 29, 2014 #61 Posted October 29, 2014 Hi Dave If this is the Corel Endeavour - I recall seeing pictures of that model in the Corel ads and thinking it looks hardly anything like the Endeavour. I built the Corel Victory a long time ago and it was my first wooden ship and the instructions were terrible, so I can relate to what you are saying about the plans and instructions. Cheers Steve Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)
DaveRow Posted November 4, 2014 Author #62 Posted November 4, 2014 Am I happy. 2nd layer of planking completed. Mixed feelings, as I cut a couple of corners using tapered(triangle) planks where they were really short in length. Otherwise I did my best to lay them naturally over the hull. Pictures: Rear bottom - going from 2 to 1 planks. Starboard bow and side with all the planks on. I was planning to paint below the waterline white, however seeing that I put so much work into the planks, it would be shame not to see them. So thinking of staining the bottom after the tree nailing. See how the tree nails turn out, ships out to sea on this for now ! I gave the planks a light sand for now, and that may be it, thinking it best to leave some imperfections where planks do not quiet align. Maybe the Endeavour hull planks may of been the same ? Now I guess I'm up to marking out where the decorations, hatches and all the other hull additions go - ready to tree nail. That will be fun ! Maybe some 1,000 holes to drill ! Did I say I was happy that the planking is done ! Dave R GuntherMT, Beef Wellington, edmay and 2 others 5 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
kiwiron Posted November 9, 2014 #63 Posted November 9, 2014 Dave,you've got a great hull shape there,probably the most important part of the build. Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos.
DaveRow Posted November 11, 2014 Author #64 Posted November 11, 2014 Work at the shipyard has slowed a bit after the planks completed. I have added the Anchor strips to either side of the bows. I pre-made the 2 panels(port and starboard) plus the lower strip that protects the wales, then glued in place. What a task as the hull curved and twisted, which in hindsight pre-making the panel may not of been the way to go. But persevered and got them in place. Dave R. Captain Slog, kiwiron, dashi and 2 others 5 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted November 11, 2014 Author #65 Posted November 11, 2014 Also made the knees(3 sizes) for the channels, which are shown in Marquardt's AOTS. Each is just over 2.2mm wide which translates to some 130mm wide in real size. I believe they would of been of substantial thickness to transfer any load back to the hull/deck line. They are a bit rough for now, some final touch-ups to be done when I glue them in place, after tree nails. I also noted that in the Endeavour replica pictures I have been collecting, there no knees that I can see. Maybe just not showing up ? And have cut in the cabin window decoration in either side. Glue on after the tree nails are done. What next ? probably look at the hatches, plenty to do. Trying to mark out where all the hull items go, before tree nailing. Dave R. edmay, Mirabell61, shipaholic and 4 others 7 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted November 12, 2014 Author #66 Posted November 12, 2014 After I loaded the pictures above(of the channels & knees) I noticed that I had made a big mistake. I had attached the Port Anchor rubbing panel on the wrong way(sweeping back and not forward). Buggar ! So after 2hrs of carefully prying to loosen the glue(2 pack epoxy) I managed to salvage in 2 parts the panel. Carefully glued the panel together and back on the correct direction. Pic to follow. I'll have to sack the foreman at the shipyard. Dave R. Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted November 17, 2014 Author #67 Posted November 17, 2014 Started the tree nails this last week - first to the Stern. I have been dreading doing this - so many to do. I wanted to minimise the clean up of excess glue about the holes, so I force the epoxy into the holes first, clean the surface up then plug the holes with toothpicks. After snipping the toothpick near the base with clippers, I then use a scalpel blade to cut flush to the plank. A slight sand and pretty much done. I am not worried that the tree nails are light coloured for now. Probably darken when I apply clear finish to the hull. Dave R edmay, kiwiron, GuntherMT and 3 others 6 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
Beef Wellington Posted November 17, 2014 #68 Posted November 17, 2014 Dave - any reason to use epoxy vs regular PVA glue? Would think the latter to be a little more user friendly. Good luck on the rest! Looks great. Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
DaveRow Posted November 17, 2014 Author #69 Posted November 17, 2014 Jason, I have PVA glue, however prefer the Epoxy as it holds really well - rock hard when it's fully dry. I haven't used any nails only the Epoxy to date - the hull is very sturdy. I agree that the epoxy is not that user friendly, pot life is very short, I watch out for the excess and clean it up. Dave R. Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted December 7, 2014 Author #70 Posted December 7, 2014 Well onto the Tree Nails(TN) on the hull. Approx. 1300 done with just as many and more to go. 0.4mm hole with half a toothpick in it for a TN. My test area showed once sanded the "whiteness" blends in with the darker plank timber - Beech. I hope so. Dave R Captain Slog, kiwiron and GuntherMT 3 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted December 7, 2014 Author #71 Posted December 7, 2014 Jason(Beef Wellington), Thought about the PVA glue vs Epoxy for the Tree nails. PVA won out, much faster and non-structural. Dave R Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
RGL Posted December 7, 2014 #72 Posted December 7, 2014 Looks just like my porcupine did! The contrast will come up nicely Greg
kiwiron Posted December 16, 2014 #73 Posted December 16, 2014 Looking great Dave,i admire people with the skill to do tree nailing makes it look much better. Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos.
DaveRow Posted December 29, 2014 Author #74 Posted December 29, 2014 Well, the Shipyard has been tree-nailing the hull for some weeks now. I go at it hard for a couple of sessions then a rest. With Christmas and family about, time is precious with close ones. Be glad when it is done, to move onto the hull fitments and the deck. Dave R. kiwiron and edmay 2 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
edmay Posted December 29, 2014 #75 Posted December 29, 2014 Nice thorough work Dave. happy new year. Edwin
DaveRow Posted January 7, 2015 Author #76 Posted January 7, 2015 All the best for the new year Wooden Boat Builders. I made a "dock" to hold the hull vertical so measurements can be taken and for the fit-out works. 12mm ply base with 2 batten runners either side of the keel bottom. The bow is held by 2 pcs. of pine raked either side of the bow keel. Holds the hull very firm. Shortly after I cut my left thumb severely(very annoyed at myself) which has slowed the pace of the build considerably. The hull has some 3,000 tree nails to date installed and most cut flush to the hull(ready for a final sand). Started the deck by cutting the access holes - at least I could do that with 1 hand. Been contemplating how to mount the 3 masts onto the keel, as the kit ! does not mention this. Have come up with a mast stand that clips over the keel that I lower down on the bottom of each mast and glue onto the keel. design and pics to follow. Working with 1 hand is frustrating. Dave R. kiwiron, edmay, dashi and 3 others 6 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted January 20, 2015 Author #77 Posted January 20, 2015 If anyone is interested, I have posted a pic of a spreadsheet that basically converts the imperial lengths of Mast & Spars to mm based on the scale of your model. It is based on the HMB Endeavour and is populated with the lengths from the Woolwich Yard 16 Oct 1771. Has Parkin and AOTS tabs. I will shortly add "below/above deck" for the masts into the sheet. If you would like the spreadsheet, PM me with your email and will email to you. Dave R. BANYAN 1 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted February 3, 2015 Author #78 Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Work at the shipyard has been somewhat slow. Before going ahead with decking and other components I stepped the 3 masts - mainly to set the mast partners on the deck. I made 3 partners for where the masts go through the deck. Turned down each mast to required diameter. Fore 8mm dia Main 9mm dia Mizzen 6.5mm dia (should of been 6mm by my calculations but seems so small) Each mast goes through a mid collar on the lower deck and down to rest on the keel, the partner and collar allowed to set the rake and plumb sideways of each of the 3 masts. So onto the decking next. Dave R Edited February 3, 2015 by DaveRow Captain Slog, GuntherMT, edmay and 4 others 7 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted February 3, 2015 Author #79 Posted February 3, 2015 Here is my home made Lathe using a Dremel tool and scraps of timber. The picture is after 2 rebuilds(improvements), not fully assembled. Both the drill drive end and fix end move on slides which allows 100mm to 350mm long dowels to be worked on. Just for the Endeavour mast and spars. The tool rest also slides between - raised to clear the end wing nuts of the slides. With the long dowels, the middle bows so I am looking at maybe a small roller that rests on the other side of a dowel, mounted on the other side of he tool rest to oppose the force of the cutting tool. All good fun making these things - keeps the mind active. Dave R GuntherMT, WBlakeny, BANYAN and 3 others 6 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
BANYAN Posted February 4, 2015 #80 Posted February 4, 2015 Coming along very nicely Dave; looks good. Always good to start with some hand-made jigs and tool setups; especially when the budget doesn't support something more upmarket that is a nice little setup you have contrived. One word of caution with a Dremel based lathe though is that you will have to take things quite easy as you will soon overload it (not a lot of torque) on larger dowels etc, especially if using hardwood. Will work - just go slow! By that I don't mean low rpm, but rather don't try to apply much sanding or cutting pressure. cheers Pat If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
shipaholic Posted February 4, 2015 #81 Posted February 4, 2015 Dave, It would be a shame to wreck your Dremel by overloading it. Why not do what I did and just buy a cheap electric drill from Kmart for about $20. I purchased a fairly cheap lathe from the UK that is designed to use a drill as the motor. Cheers Steve Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)
DaveRow Posted February 4, 2015 Author #82 Posted February 4, 2015 Bit more work today. Edge boards to front and rear decks(where each steps down). 3x1mm board is recessed 0.5mm so the 0.5mm decking butts flush to them. Each overhangs ~1.0mm for the bulkhead boards under to butt up. Dave R msberkman 1 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted February 4, 2015 Author #83 Posted February 4, 2015 Hi Pat, Your right, as when I turned down the 3 mast bottoms, it was easy to slow the Dremel down(not much torque in it) when applying a bit of extra force to take more off. I'll take Steve's advice and look out for a cheap drill with a chuck. Dave R Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted February 4, 2015 Author #84 Posted February 4, 2015 Hi Steve, Probably good advice on changing to a cheap drill, will look out for one and go for another modification. Thanks Dave R Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted February 9, 2015 Author #85 Posted February 9, 2015 Been keen to get started on the deck planking, get something done. I am not able to do real fiddly work, as my left hand is in a splint(from cutting my thumb). At the shipyard, "ochre" red has been applied inside of the gunwales and some of the mid planking about the Main Partner is in place. I reckon the partner(where the mast penetrates the deck) stands out quiet nicely. Plenty of planks to cut, some to shape, keep me busy for a while. Dave R UdoK, msberkman, kiwiron and 2 others 5 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
DaveRow Posted March 1, 2015 Author #86 Posted March 1, 2015 Hi All, The shipyard has finally applied the deck planks to the decks. I did my best to work out a layout similar to that in the AOTS, with some minor changes to accommodate the materials and my capabilities. I found it challenging to get all the planks tapered and touching together, taking into account each plank width and the width of the deck(even width planks was the aim). Some small gaps if one looks carefully, however once above deck fit-out and rigging is applied, maybe get lost ? Short break then onto ? hatches and hinges. Cheers Dave R. Captain Slog, GuntherMT, Winlich and 6 others 9 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
BANYAN Posted March 2, 2015 #87 Posted March 2, 2015 Nice job on the deck planking Dave; she is coming along quite handsomely. cheers Pat If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
DaveRow Posted April 2, 2015 Author #88 Posted April 2, 2015 Back from holidays. Started on the deck plugging, another several hundred to drill and plug. Dave R. msberkman 1 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
BANYAN Posted April 2, 2015 #89 Posted April 2, 2015 The start of the ship's brig/stockade Coming along nicely Dave; welcome back. cheers pat If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
DaveRow Posted April 9, 2015 Author #90 Posted April 9, 2015 The shipyard has been busy plugging the deck planks. Below are a few snaps of the finished layout and plugs. I am fairly pleased with the finish, not consistent, but looks worn after a time at seas maybe. The effect, ? I'll stick with it. Onto the gunwales next. Dave R Captain Slog, Fam, kiwiron and 4 others 7 Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed)
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