What is the name for the netting under the bowsprit

[HKC]

I am building the Danmark (older version)  and the kit came with a piece of netting similar to a window screen but more flexible that is situated under the bowsprit. The piece supplied is too small for my application so I need to acquire a larger piece. I have two questions: (1) what i the name for it, and (2) where can I get it?

 

thanks,

 

HKC

[Stockholm tar]

HKC,

 

So far as I know and heard, and I have sailed on a few square riggers, it has always been called just that – the bowsprit netting. I can't answer your second question, but I'm sure someone will come back on that.

Edited April 5, 2014 by Stockholm tar

[allanyed]

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If you live in the US did you contact Billings service department for the US? 

 

bbusa@billingboats.com

 

Allan

[HKC]

Thanks Allan, I'll give that a try. I just looked on the site but could not find the netting.

 

HKC

[Modeler12]

You might go to a fabric shop such as Joann's. I bought some 'netting' that I used for the Constitution railing nets and also for the railing on the tops and it looks about right. 

[Ulises Victoria]

Or you can try that material they use for the bride's veil. 

I think that's what Jay (modeler12) refers to.

Not sure of it's name in English, but in Spanish is "Tul"

[newbuilder101]

In English it's tulle and there are 2 patterns.....square and diamond.

[JerseyCity Frankie]

I have heard modern day square rig sailors jokingly refer to this stuff as the "Cadet Strainer".

[HKC]

Thank you all for your responses. I've been offline the better part of this year but back at it now. I will follow up on the server hairnet and fabric store netting suggestions. Thank you.

[BANYAN]

HKC - I hope you don't mind me high jacking your thread after such a long period of inactivity?

 

In the Endeavour AOTS, this netting is referenced as being for the staysail ( to hold the 'bundle' when lowered).

 

My question is how it was rigged circa 1770.  the AOTS shows only a side view.  In this view there is a 'horse' which I am presuming is one each side.  I initially assumed the netting was fixed between these but there also appears to be a small eye ring centrally placed at either end fixed to the boom collar (fwd side) and boom cap (aft side) to which the net was attached.

 

Would I be right in assuming that it was fitted between the horses (hitched) to act as spreaders and the central eye rings to give fore and aft support to the net?  OR  was it hung more like a hammock?

 

Any pointers/suggestions appreciated as there is nothing in Lees, Lever, Marquardt, Harland or Falconer (that I can find)  to provide this detail.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Edited January 3, 2016 by BANYAN

[shipaholic]

Hi Pat

 

Here is a pic of the spritsail net on the de-rigged replica, if it helps

 

Steve

[jbshan]

Shipaholic's netting would be to hold the staysail when it is not set.  Reference David Antscherl's 'Fully Framed Model'.

Edited January 2, 2016 by jbshan

[Mark P]

Hi HKC;

 

I'm with jb on this.  When these nettings first appeared,  they were rigged above the bowsprit,  and their purpose was to hold the staysails when lowered.  It was only later that they were rigged below the bowsprit,  to catch those who lost their footing while working on the headsails.

 

All the best,

 

Mark P

[uss frolick]

I checked Darcy Lever's "A Young Sea Officers Sheet Anchor", 1819, but I didn't see it depicted. 

 

So, I'll make up a suitable name. How about "Mermaid Scooper"?

Edited January 2, 2016 by uss frolick

[Altduck]

I checked Darcy Lever's "A Young Sea Officers Sheet Anchor", 1819, but I didn't see it depicted. 

 

So, I'll make up a suitable name. How about "Mermaid Scooper"?

 

Well, it seems to have worked in post #6 above.

 

Richard

[BANYAN]

Thanks Steve and JB.  Steve that photo is perfect - many thanks for that - much appreciate the rapid response.  I was a bit puzzled by marquardt's depiction as i could not see a 'seaman' like way to utilise a central line either end; the spreaders make much more practical sense.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Jenn O]

I’ve been sailing on tall ships most of my life & we always called them “widow strainers” but I’ve often wondered what their true name is.