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I had started this build in the fall and only now starting the build log so I have a few posts before I am up to date. Lots of fitting issues but always able to find solutions. This old kit is obviously prior to laser cutting and likely even prior to CNC cutting. The centering sticks (10x10mm) running along the midline (for the frames) also had some warping but I was able to create enough symmetry to be happy. I had to though add some 0.5 and 1.0 mm strips of wood on the inside tops of the frames as well some on the outside frames to create that extra "ounce" of symmetry from inside out and side to side. The deck fit relatively well onto the frame tops (lucky for me).
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Thanks Mugje! The ship is as beautiful as the country... been to Holland a number of times as my wife is Dutch by only one generation past as her parents were born in Indonesia and Holland. Most of our time has been spent in Amersfoort, Hilversum, and of course Amstersdam. Her ancestral roots though are from Rotterdam. Anyways, a few more pictures... the deck is just dry fit at this time.
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The warped keel was a steam and iron project, repeated probably 7- 8 times to get the result I needed. I did not want to soak the whole keel as it surely would have delaminated (given the kits age) if left in water for any length of time. Steaming and ironing flat and clamping overnight on my granite counter top was not getting the keel straight. I actually put a couple of sticks of Lego fore and aft (as the keel always wanted to return to its warped form when completely dry) to get the keel reverse bent while ironing and while heating the mid section of the keel. I repeated this probably 4 of the total 8 times and FINALLY got the keel to where it needed to be, the keel maintaining a straight line.
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I cleaned the corroded cast metal pieces with vinegar and salt and the results were excellent... with only minor marring on the surfaces. I also polished the brass cannons with autosol metal polish and they also turned out excellent as you can see from the pictures. Perhaps should have left the cannons in their original state as would likely not need to "blacken" them. Quite a bit of work though...
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There are a few wonderful builds of this kit on MSW and thought I would add to the current roster. In my opinion, this kit builds into a wonderful static display and I have been working my skills up to the level required to complete this kit. My last and only Mamoli build previously was the Mamoli Santa Maria kit and I am very happy how it turned out given the limitations in instructions. Nevertheless, I have seemed to figure out the Mamoli way of building and though the present kit I purchased was a vintage kit off of Ebay, I am still very pleased with the quality of materials and metal castings. *Unfortunately I am missing the figurehead and noted some degradation in some of the metal casting and the keel is significantly warped. *Fortunately I have sourced the figurehead and the wood looks excellent given its age as I estimate the kit to be about 35-40 years old at this time.
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Thanks Peter for your comments… Funny as I reviewed your entire Cutty Sark build log a few weeks back and enjoyed it thoroughly. PS… noticed you are on the Island… my parents are retired in Nanaimo and we love to spend time there once a year, time permitting. Cheers,
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Again, building the kit with supplied parts (often plastic), with touch ups to follow, especially on the hull. Unfortunately a bit stalled as waiting to put together a large order of stuff from Cornwall Model boats... short on matching Admiralty paints in order to finish painting the hull (and acquire other fittings for my future project of an old vintage Mamoli Friesland kit which I purchased off of EBay- which surprise surprise is missing a few parts. Lucky that Dusek Models is able to supply the missing items via CMB).
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I did plank the deck and cabin floor boards with left over strips from an other kit that is finished... turned out looking good, especially with a couple coats of varathane. Not so good is how the bulwarks fit and became a real mess for me fast! Some layers of wood fill and touch ups and now looking a bit better... as exemplified in the post to follow.
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Was debating doing a build log for this older kit that was given to me from my brother, as he received it from a co-worker that had recently passed away, and wished to pass it to him and thus to me prior to his passing... It is classified as a beginner build but these "beginner" kits from Billing Boats are in my opinion so basic in design and parts and given the poor tolerances for fitting out of pieces and parts, that it in fact it is not a beginners kit. The high end large kits (now laser cut) with fitment being so perfect, that though classified as advanced, it perhaps could be qualified as much easier to build... anyway my thoughts. I decided to do the build and pass it back to my brother given the emotional connection is truly with him. My wife is Dutch descent and given my trips to Holland and having seen my fair share of Dutch river barges... I do find them absolutely beautiful! I have decided to build it completely out of the box with no upgrades with the exception of the sails. I started this in the fall and worked on it here and there... I did forgot to take some early pictures but this is what I have to show for... This thing was not easy to plank at the bow for me and given it is single planked construction, I knew really quickly that this was a plank and paint project... which all of the working Dutch barges' hulls are anyways - painted.
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Mamoli Metal Fittings Oxidation
mrcc replied to mrcc's topic in Metal Work, Soldering and Metal Fittings
It is probably "fitting" to change my topic from Mamoli Metal Fitting Oxidation to Mamoli Metal Fitting Degradation now that I know what the issue is/was... Lesson learned; Take your lead alloy fittings out of their plastic storage bags as soon as possible (in the old vintage kits). -
Mamoli Metal Fittings Oxidation
mrcc replied to mrcc's topic in Metal Work, Soldering and Metal Fittings
After some research, and also reading the reference listed in the post just before me in the category Metal Fittings (perhaps should have read it first before my query on MSW), I found out that; Wood releases acetic acid naturally and when in storage with lead fittings (as how Mamoli packaged their lead alloy fittings with wood), the lead alloy gets converted to lead acetate and additionally in the presence of CO2 (as in a sealed package without air exchange), the lead alloy gets converted to lead carbonate, which is the whitish deposit on the lead alloy fittings I pictured in my post above. My solution for cleanup was a 1:1 solution of household vinegar with water and some salt and with a tooth brush, brushing the deposits off with a thorough rinse of water, following of which is the results pictured below. The surface is marred but at least the fitting is still usable. -
I just found an old Mamoli Friesland kit on Ebay which I was able to acquire for a very good price BUT... some of the metal fittings seem to have a considerable amount of oxidation on their surfaces. The kit (based on the box art) is likely from the late 1970s or early 1980s. I presume the metal fittings in questions are lead alloys. My questions is how can I return the fitting to a proper state in order to use on the model and secondly, how can I treat the fitting so they don't degrade in the future? Please see the attached pictures and thank-you for any and all responses in advance!
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I am a relative newbie to the scratch build world and I must say there is no scratch build on MSW that comes close to the quality of workmanship I see on this build log. Incredible!
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How an 18th Century Sailing Battleship Works
mrcc replied to Tossedman's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Don’t think the guy that produced this video was a naval architect or naval scholar but nonetheless it was incredibly well produced and gave us a great 3D understanding of a working ship of the line. Best to take it for what it is and not needlessly question the video and it’s historical accuracy. Afterall it was published on Youtube! -
How an 18th Century Sailing Battleship Works
mrcc replied to Tossedman's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Excellent video!
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