-
Posts
677 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Gallery
Events
Everything posted by DaveRow
-
Hi Steve, It has been a nice break away. New year, new targets. Nice start to the yards. Keep going. Dave R
-
HMB Endeavour by mikec - Eaglemoss
DaveRow replied to mikec's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
Hi Mike, Good break is needed at times. I'll be starting on yards after I get me 4 boats done, which is very slow at the moment. Dave R -
Mike, Your question "Two questions about the mainmast forestay. It looks like it splits and goes p & s around the foremast- a loop, joins back to a single line. Is this correct? And, I can't identify where it terminates at the bow." I have only looked at this a while ago, and may be wrong. Ref > AoTS Page 95. Only the Foremast have "fore" stays. Do you mean the Main Preventer stay and Main stay ? I believe so. Both are separate stays. Each at top looped around mast joined with a mouse. AoTS Page 99. The bottom connections - AoTS Page 99. Main Preventer stay loops "collar" '15' around the foremast. Main Stay passes the foremast(looks like on starboard) and fixes to ? AoTS shows a eyelet on the deck and Replica has it under the Bowsprit. These two pictures are from Replica: Hope that helps. Dave R
-
Ships Boats by the Shipyard Skiff Episode 2: The template was laser cut on 0.6mm 3 ply and keel frames assembled as a jig, ready for planking. (part view of the template) Much the same as the Yawl, I assembled the keel and frames as a jig. Keel being glued together. Jig taking shape. The Skiff is just over 83mm long Hanging in their. After the planking is on, the jig pops off the base and the fit-out can start. Dave R
-
Ships Boats by the Shipyard Yawl Episode 2: The template was laser cut on 0.6mm 3 ply and keel frames assembled as a jig, ready for planking. Part of the Template - keel parts and some of the frames. 2 keels and a "rabbit" keel frame either side makes up the keel -> 4 x 0.6mm = 2.4mm wide The Yawl was 10' long and at 1:60 the keel length just on 50mm long. Jig Jig Jig Dave R
-
Ships Boats by the Shipyard Some/little progress. Pinnace Episode 2: Just added a plank under the gunwale to the Pinnace. And the first plank to the keel. That's all for now as I moved onto the templates for the Yawl and Skiff. Dave R
-
Ships Boats by the Shipyard Some more progress. I have spent(between Xmas shopping and some paying work) some time on the last 2 ships boats. Both to be clinker built on frames similar to the Longboat and Pinnace. The fit-out from the AoTS to follow. I've progressively added a few more items to be cut from the ply. A hole for a rod to go through the frames to keep aligned, that is the intent. (one of our fellow Endeavour builders "Banyan" request) Rudder(laminated), gunwale, knees, seating. See how they fit ! Yawl Episode 1: The Yawl is described by Ray Parkin "H.M. Bark Endeavour" as 10' long, 5' beam and 2' 3" stern post. He makes reference to Mr Banks saying they had no boat on board but a small Yawl.. in Rio de Janerio. I used DELFTship to develop a hull model for the Yawl, based on the lines from the AoTS p133. Again, similar to the Pinnace I scanned the AoTS diagrams, loading bitmap pictures(scaled) into the program, then overlay a manipulated wireframe. The program provides a plot of the hull design that can be used to make patterns. I exported the hull plot as a DXF file. I imported the hull plot DXF file into TurboCAD to further develop a pattern set(frames and keels) for "laser" cutting. Part of the template ready for laser cutting. 3 middle keel lamination's, with a rabbit keel either side. So next is to get this Laser cut onto 0.6mm 3 ply. Skiff Episode 1: In Ray Parkin "Endeavour", he mentions there were two other small boats. However I could not find the size of either boats. A Skiff is depicted in Marquardt AoTS, the length (similar length to the Pinnace ). Seems a bit "long" in consideration of Mr Parkin's, 2 other small boats, smaller than the others ? I've taken a punt and made the Skiff 15' long, in proportion to scale from the drawing. Basically the 4th boat of similar length to the Pinnace. The process is similar to the previous others: Their is quiet a process inside TurboCAD to "pull" apart the DELFTship plot frames to generate individual frames. Each has the top and 2 inside "cuts" added. And the same for the "Keel", creating the "slots" for the frames, and catering for the fore and stern frames that are higher. And a lot of other "bits". All are arranged to minimize ply wastage as much as possible. Part of the template ready for laser cutting. I changed to 2 middle keel lamination's, with a rabbit keel either side. So next is to get these Laser cut onto 0.6mm > 3 ply that I am using. I have a matching PDF file with numbers to each frame to match up to the keel. Then plenty of planking to do and onto the fit-out. Merry Xmas to all. Dave R
-
Chris, Not much "paying" work at the moment, time for fun things. Some late nights on this stuff though, I get so involved, time slips by. It also helps I have an extensive sailing, yachting and CAD background. Compared to others. I believe I take my time. Dave R
-
Ships Boats by the Shipyard Some more progress. The Pinnace will be another clinker hull built on frames similar to the Longboat. The fit-out from the AoTS. Pinnace Episode 1: I used DELFTship to develop a hull model for the pinnace, based on the lines from the AoTS p132. This process involves scanning to AoTS diagrams, loading bitmap pictures(scaled) into the program, then overlay a manipulated wireframe. The program provides a plot of the hull design that can be used to make patterns. For the Longboat I hand cut all frames and keel from 0.6mm ply and using a scaple blade. Very time consuming and not 100% accurate. See my previous log on this. For this boat I wanted to create a set of patterns and then Laser cut them on the 0.6mm 3 ply. I exported the hull plot as a DXF to load into TurboCAD to further develop a pattern set(frames and keels) for "laser" cutting. Being the first time, it took a lot of time to develop the patterns to a stage for laser testing. I am fortunate to have a local source who has a laser cutter. After some trial runs, this is the end product of the laser cut frames and keel elements. Next the assembly of the elements to form a hull frame/shape. This has been a big learning curve, and I must thank Pat(Banyan) for his advice and thoughts. I plan to do the other 2 boats(Yawl and Skiff) in a similar manner, applying some upgrades to the laser pattern design from what has been learn't through this process. Ya gotta have fun to do this..... crazy.... Dave R
-
Ships Boats by the Shipyard Some more progress. Longboat Episode 4: The lads in the yard did some work on the internals. Added the footwaling, windlass, stern bench and knees. Loose fit the thwarts, a bit too high but too late to change now. Having a break for now on this one to move ontot he other 3 boat hulls. Plan is to get all the hull basics similar and fininsh off the "little things" in one go. Rudder, masts, oars etc. Dave R
-
Hi Don, Just caught up with your beautiful log on the Trabakul. What a great build you are constructing. Love your details. No snow in Brisbane Australia, so absolutely loved the outdoor snow scene pic. Keep up the excellant work. Dave R
- 653 replies
-
- trabakul
- marisstella
-
(and 1 more)
Tagged with:
-
Hi Chris, Too kind, more a dabbler of many things, master of none more likely. Very fiddly work at such a small size, mostly under a magnifier. I've found that I need to take a break after a couple of hours, as my eyes play up. Slow and steady like a turtle, that's me. Dave R
-
DELFTship Longboat model I found that some members use DELFTship to model ship hulls. I downloaded the free version and after I worked out how to and got the hang of the software, I created a hull shape of the longboat from the Endeavour AoTS pictures. Side view of the wire frame overlaid to the longboat hull shape. Perspective view. Basic hull wire frame which can output the frames/stations as in the picture below. Lines Plan output from DELFTship. I plan to use the other ship boat plans(in the AoTS) to develop other hull/frames. Probably dxf the DELFTship model out to TurboCAD(which I have bought) to develop a set of individual frames. See how that goes. Fun. Dave R
-
Ships Boats by the Shipyard Some more progress. Longboat Episode 3: Clinker planking finished and Wales added. Onto the internals. Dave R
-
Pat, Added a bow shot showing the clinker planking. The P and S shots don't show it up. Dave R
-
Ships Boats by the Shipyard Some progress. Longboat Episode 2: I modified the Longboat Jig to hold the framed boat upside down for Clinker planking. Gunwale To strengthen the wales, I added the gunwale(oversize at this stage) which will be trimmed at a later stage. Back in the Jig. Clinker planking: The garboard plank added to both sides. Starboard hull: Half way over the hull, slow going as each is fitted. Port hull: Each plank is 3.5mm max width in the mid frames, with a 0.5mm overlap equates at 1:60, 180mm of exposed plank width. Visually shold give the desired affect. PS(edit) Bow: Shows the Clinker planking. Dave R
-
Hi Pat, So the aim is to produce 3D parts from a 3D printer. ? Will be interested what you come up with and think on the time and costs down the track. When I/we think of all the cost to buy the many parts, it comes into play, does one make our own to suite. ? I had thought, after my Endeavour build, if I decided to build another ship model, 3D printer production of parts would be an interesting way to go. Their would be numerous items one could produce, although care that they do not look out of place. PS. I used CAD (Autocad) extensively as a design draftsman back in the 80's and 90's. Brings back lots of memories. Dave R
-
Ships Boats by the Shipyard My kit came with 1 hollowed out hull for a small boat. It does not match close to any of the boat details in the Endeavour AoTS. According to the AoTS, there were 4 boats: - Longboat - Pinnace - Cutter - Yawl Longboat I will aim to re-create the Endeavour's Longboat as shown by Karl Marquardt in the AoTS. What to use to built the longboat: I had a look through logs of other Endeavour builds and found a frame set for a longboat. I scaled the picture for a longboat (94 mm x 35mm x 20mm) which Banyan had noted in his log, for Ray Parkin's version for the construction of the longboat. This size will fit nicely I made and laid the keel, mounting it in a jig for the hull construction. Frames: The frames were cut from 0.6mm ply. 16 in total with balsa spacers on the top to keep them parallel. The 2 legs at the back keep the frames vertical over the keel. Stern: I added a double thick ply stern. Started removing the mid sections of the frames. The hull will be carvel planked directly onto the frames. As per Banyan's Endeavour log: Parkin had mentioned the longboat would have been clinker built rather than carvel. This would provide a boat more robust which could be used to conduct the intended close-in coastal surveying (which I am assuming Cook would have wanted). So much more work for the shipyard to get into for this one little boat. 3 more to decide on. Dave R
About us
Modelshipworld - Advancing Ship Modeling through Research
SSL Secured
Your security is important for us so this Website is SSL-Secured
NRG Mailing Address
Nautical Research Guild
237 South Lincoln Street
Westmont IL, 60559-1917
Model Ship World ® and the MSW logo are Registered Trademarks, and belong to the Nautical Research Guild (United States Patent and Trademark Office: No. 6,929,264 & No. 6,929,274, registered Dec. 20, 2022)
Helpful Links
About the NRG
If you enjoy building ship models that are historically accurate as well as beautiful, then The Nautical Research Guild (NRG) is just right for you.
The Guild is a non-profit educational organization whose mission is to “Advance Ship Modeling Through Research”. We provide support to our members in their efforts to raise the quality of their model ships.
The Nautical Research Guild has published our world-renowned quarterly magazine, The Nautical Research Journal, since 1955. The pages of the Journal are full of articles by accomplished ship modelers who show you how they create those exquisite details on their models, and by maritime historians who show you the correct details to build. The Journal is available in both print and digital editions. Go to the NRG web site (www.thenrg.org) to download a complimentary digital copy of the Journal. The NRG also publishes plan sets, books and compilations of back issues of the Journal and the former Ships in Scale and Model Ship Builder magazines.