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Shipyard Update: Thanks for looking in on the progress fellow shippy's. Mast Yards - Parrels: I decided to create a smaller Parrel set for the smaller masts. The 10mm set seemed too big to wrap around the Main, Fore & Mizzen TopMasts and outer Bowsprit yard. Below is a 7mm version 3D printed in wood filament, with small 2.4mm brass trucks(balls). Above is straight off the bed of my 3D printer. I still get a drag of filament between each item, but it is easy to trim off. The back(the sacrificial bottom layer) just peels off. A few little holes, but a sand, stain and at the scale you don't see it. A Jig to hold the Ribs whilst the holes are drilled as before. A trial Parrel set made up. Ribs ready to drill at the bottom. 7mm Parrel wrapped around a 6mm dowel. Same 7mm Parrel around a 6mm dowel. Lots of blocks, ropes to go now.
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Shipyard Update: Mast Yards - Blocks and Parrels: A bit of an update the the Yards. Above are the 11 Yards with the various Tye & Stop cleats, Ferules on the ends, and the main & fore fitted with boom irons. I decided to paint the central areas Matt Black and the outer ends with a cedar wood stain. Next was onto the blocks, ropes and Parrel fit-out to the various Yards: What has taken a lot of time, was working out the sizes of the many blocks. Being my first model of this nature, learning a lot along the way, making it up as well... Many resources have detailed pictures and rope sizes, my kit plans were again useless again in this area. The AoTS indicates with scale the various attachments. Using David Steel's Rigging Tables, I hope I have worked out the block sizes to use. Jeer Blocks: I started with the Fore Yard Jeer blocks - 2 x 7mm double(7mm because this was the size I used for the mast blocks) Double strops derived from a trial fit around the mid section of the yard. One completed. 2 Jeers on the yard, temporary fit. The Parrels: My kit did not have any Parrel parts. Define parrel: a rope loop or sliding collar by which a yard or spar is held to a mast in such a way that it may be hoisted or lowered. I noted in Pay Banyan's log, Steve had dropped in a Parrels page from "The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships". The Ribs being 2' long and 8" wide. At 1:60 equates to !10mm x 3.4mm in frame size. 2" tick ~ 0.84mm Why not use my 3D printer with wood filament to create the Ribs. I won't go into the process, however printed 3 sets of Ribs, shown above. They are a bit rough on some of the edges, but after some sanding come up quiet well. Above the Jig for drilling of the rope holes. The top Rib is not formed well, so used as a drill template. The black beads(for the trucks) are 4mm dia, a bit larger than I wanted, and not oval as in the Parrels page from "The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships". However make use of what one has on hand. Above shows: 1. To the right a jig for drilling the 2 holes for the rope to pass through. 2. In front, some Ribs sanded and drilled. 3. Each Rib I stain and later will clear coat. 4. A test setup of the Parrel on a mock-up section of Fore-mast At this scale, all the little errors disappear. I am concerned though the scale is a wee bit too big, may be fine for the Main and Fore Yards. Might need to scale the set-up down for the smaller yards. Lots more thought to go into all this yard rigging and fit-out to go on with....
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Love the detail you go to Ed. Masterclass effort.
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
DaveRow replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Hi Pat, Thought I'd take break from my build and see what is going on elsewhere. The painted hull is looking great. How are you going to build the Capstan ? any 3D printing involved ? I'm jealous of a trip to the UK, visiting a number of the maritime museums. Something on my bucket list.- 993 replies
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Hi Rob, Nothing silly going on hear. I use a Resistance welder, an American Beauty Super Chief 250, adapted to 220v for AUS. Works differently to a Soldering Iron(where the area around is heated up). Pat(Banyan) from Melbourne put me onto this system. Imported from USA to AUS. Not cheap. The 2 prongs(on the hand piece) heat up the area between the prongs in a flash(like in a micro second), and applying/regulating the amount of lead/silver solder creates the joint. Takes a bit of getting used to, however I am so impressed how fast it makes the joint/s. The system I have above. Kit from www.americanbeautytools.com Best results I find setting the parts up in a jig, flux the joint where I want the solder to end up. Touch the ends of the prongs to either side of the where you want the soldered joint. The current is via a foot peddle(like on a old Singer sewing machine) to activate the electrical current to the hand piece/prongs. I first starting using the resistance welder in March 2016. See my posts about that time for more info. Pat has info on his Endeavour build as well. Hope you don't mind Pat for the ref... And the type of lead/silver % solder makes a difference as well. Hope that all makes sense.
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Shipyard Update: Mast Yards - Studding-Sail Boom Irons: The Main and Fore Yards have Boom Irons fitted to hold the Studding-Sail Booms. Above are the Inner & Outer Boom Irons fitted to one end of a Yard. The parts and process: INNER BOOM IRONS: Two(2) sizes of brass tube were cut to make rings, 1 for the Rings(for the studding-sail boom to slide through) and the other for a collar onto the yard itself. 0.8mm bar was used for the neck to join the rings to the yard. According to "Dave Steel" the neck was a square bar, which I did not have. Rod instead. Each ring and collar has a hole for the neck rod to fit into. I made a jig to hold the 3 parts together for welding the 4 assembles together. Welds complete. OUTER BOOM IRONS: On the end of the yard/s a same size Ring, 90deg. neck and straps are fashioned. Another jig top to weld a pair of rings/neck bar for consistency. Set ready to be welded here. After welds done. Above are the 4 Boom Irons for 1 yard, removed from the yard ready for blackening. Test assembly on 1 end, blackened boom irons fitted. 2 hoops to fit over the end straps.
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What... your not chopping the hull up into sections like the real deal ?? Looks like another great job ahead for you.
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Thanks Pat, I realized after reading Dave Steel - Mast Making section last night, the yards with battens in the middle, the stern/rear batten should be longer. Will anyone notice once they are painted black ?
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Shipyard Update: Yards are on the build: We're underway making the yards. All(11) of the Lower, Top-sail, Top-gallant, Spirit, Spirit-topsail & Gaff(off the mizzen) Yards on their way. I added a block to shape for each of the Stop cleats and Tye cleats. Yet the construct the outer and inner boom ironwork. Next task. How I added the battens to the mid sections of the Lower & Top-sail Yards. I used a section of Aluminium tube to square of either end - before round sanding the batten edges. I shaped a dummy mast section to shape the jaw, for a snug fit. Couple of pictures of the lower end(jaw) of the Gaff, scarf joint with hoops(a wrap of thin black card). Detail as per AoTS p93 Next to fashion the Boom Ironwork for the Main & Fore Lower Yards. Must ensure the hoops face forward(eh Pat !) for the studdingsail booms.
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You've crafted a nice collection there Greg. Love the paint-jobs and detail is amazing at that scale.
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They were tricky little buggers. Glad they are out of the way. I'm onto making the spar blanks now.
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Twisting ? All my ratlines were glued at every shroud intersection, which kept the shroud fixed. The cleats, held in place with tweezers whilst the middle thread looped and tightened. Then a drop of CA on opp side of the cleat touching the shroud to hold in place. Then finish the 2 outer threads. Sounds simple ? I've mastered using 2 tweezers(one per hand) at a time.
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Shipyard Update: Cleats to the lower Shrouds: The shipyard took on the task of adding cleats to the lower shrouds. Tricky little buggers to lash onto the inside of the shrouds. 3 x 2 loops per cleat. Each cleat had a groove filed to the inside leg to "sit" over the shroud/rope. Starboard Fore Shroud cleats. Starboard outer Shroud cleats. Inner Port view Shroud cleats. Inner Port Mizzen Shroud cleats. Cleats on the shrouds - picture on the HMB Endeavour Replica at AMM - Sydney
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Shipyard Update: Binnacle completed: The boys in the yard have lashed down the Binnacle in it's resting spot. Finished it off with a knob on each draw and the vent in the top for the lantern fumes. Well that's the intent. Next was to add cleats to the Shrouds.
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Hi Pat, Not sure about the "future of modelling" Certainly has a benefit of reuse of the 3D model to produce at different scale/s. I produced a couple of test Binnacles with the ABS filament, which printed well, then the wood filament was in PLA, a whole different learning curve. Below is a test 3D print (just after last layer), still on the heat bed. After many changes to settings improved the final print to produce a fairly good final product I was happy with. Still needed some cleanup though, but at least all surfaces were 99% true. 3D printing may not suit all items. Complicated shapes with overhangs fine/thin sections are a challenge. I printed the Binnacle upside down for the above reason. I believe the test is to make the item with 3D printer, finish it off(paint, fixings), add to a model and see if it compliments the build in very way.
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Shipyard Update: Binnacle: I created a 3D model of the Binnacle and printed it on my Creator Pro 3D printer with a PLA wood filament. Below is the finished 3D print after some tidy up of the print, before paint-job. Below the Binnacle with paint-job in position - ready for tie-down. Back to the Rigging.
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Shipyard Update: Binnacle/s: For those who recently have dropped in, following my build. I decided to remove my first attempt of the single Binnacles beside the skylight, in front of the steering wheel. What was I thinking ?!%$##@ I contemplated enlarging each, but my mind kept drifting to the design in the AOTS, the ability to open the hatches of the skylight, the fixing of the binnacle/s to the deck, the functionality as Pat pointed out and to the storage of navigation equipment. The Replica seems to have at least 1 Binnacle(pictured in post above) resting on the deck, to one side and aft to what appears to be a modern day Binnacle. No indication of how this item is tied down. Which brings me to think it is placed on deck for historical purposes whilst in port. Further posted above(Jim Lads post) is the Replica at sea, with the 2 single Binnacles in use, nav. equipment in use either side for the helmsmen to use. Each is permanently fixed to the deck. I assume to cater for the wiring of the Nav. gear(coms. and power). Modern version, not historically correct ? Therefore I'm drawn back to the design in the AOTS, which Marquardt has depicted(at no scale) on page 69. Page 14 of the AOTS describes reasoning behind a Binnacle which straddles the skylight. "The common Binnacle of the period was described by Falconer, 'a wooden case or box, which contains the compasses, log-glass, watch-glasses, and lights to shew the compass at night". It was necessary to have the 2 compasses 7ft apart to prevent reciprocal interference...... The Binnacle was usually placed directly in front of the steering wheel, so that the compasses could be easily read by the helmsmen on one side and officer of the watch on the other side. Got to agree it all makes sense and decided to construct a paper mock-up of a Binnacle(second attempt) to see how the above will work in the area in front of the wheel. I believe it would allow the skylight hatches to lift up horizontally, and house the 2 compasses and lantern. Might need to be slightly deeper and possibly a little higher. I don't want it to be overpowering in size though. The 2 x compass housed in each top outer compartments(external raked lid to inside), draws below and to the inner bridge. Lantern housed in middle of bridge. My wheel drum blocks the back of the middle section of the bridge, so lantern lowers into the middle from top ? All too much I know, most will look at it and see it as a red box in front of the steering wheel. Might have a go at making it on my 3D printer with wood filament !. Again open to suggestions.
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Hi their OC, Build coming along very nice. Transom, you made it look pretty dam good considering it is metal.
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Thanks Pat and Jim for looking in and I take those fine comments on board for the shipyard designers to contemplate. I reckon a rework of a 2 Binnacle solution is in order. Each Binnacle wider and flat top. Low and behold, I actually found a picture of the one on the Replica(below) that I got from Greg Chard. When I visited the Replica - my photos show no Binnacle on deck. Sits behind the engine boxes(under the black covers), straddles over the steering rope by the look of it, and is clear of the skylight. Now I'm thinking 1 or 2 ? off to the workshop.....
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Shipyard Update: Binnacle: The AOTS shows 1 Binnacle, which straddles the skylight. The above arrangement seemed quiet large, and appeared it would interfere with the skylight top/s swiveling up in the open position ? I went with 2 smaller Binnacles 1 each side of the skylight, however once installed, not convinced I have the right design. eg where would the compass go ? Open to suggestions, thinking of linking them up with a raised bridge between each ?
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Shipyard Update: Ratlings: Well finally(I hope) have completed the Ratling lines by completing the Futtocks with Ratlings. Fore Futtock: Main Futtock: Mizzen Futtock: Next step I will work out how to mount my Binnacle's in front of the steerage wheel.
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Shipyard Update: Ratlings: Been a another while since my last post. Finally got all the TopMasts 99% completed. Fore TopMast Ratlines. Main TopMast Ratlines. Mizzen TopMast Ratlines. Futtock Ratlines: Main Futtock Ratlines "bird nest" underway.
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Shipyard Update: More Ratlings(yes I am still at it): Been a while since my last post. Slow going with the Ratline knots. Up to the next level > the TopMasts. Made the templates and well, >> sit for hours and chug away at tying the half-hitches. I will be glad when this phase is completed, aim is by Christmas. Finished 95% the Main TopMast both sides: I've left the top row off -> to see where the TopGallant shrouds tie off. Main TopMast Port Bit of a mess at times, knots tied before trimming. The ForeTopMast Starboard done: I've left the top row off -> to see where the TopGallant shrouds tie off. Currently working on the MizzenTopMast Starboard: I'll have to count up the number of half hitches at the end of the Ratlines. 120 each side of the Main Shrouds, then ++++++ for the others. Well more to do.... however >> The shipyard will be closed all next week, as I head to Fremantle W.A. to visit my eldest son for his Graduation from Bachelor of Medicine(Doctor).
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
DaveRow replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Hi Pat, Some very nice things happening your workshop. Your craftsmanship is developing very nicely their.- 993 replies
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