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Google an image.We can't disqualify you, as it is not against the rules. However, what's the fun of it ? Googling makes it easy (unless Andy is putting up his home made pics of lakers that are already gone to the breakers yard by now) Jan
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Masts and funnel fit the Ormuz, the white band at the bow does noet.... There are alos a number of white-star ships that have this "four mast+onefunnel"-configuration. hmmm..... Jan
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Or a pilot cutter...... Jan
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Could be an old icebreaker.... Jan
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Would never have guessed Jan
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I don't think it's iron .... Some kind of seed? Jan
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Could be a Leda-class frigate.... Can't find the pic Jan
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I already had the feeling that it was tiny..... Jan
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Another Friesland.. I'll be following this one with great interest. Frieslanbd is based on the Hohenzollernmodel. That particular model is fairly well documented by Heinricht Winter. There is a nice book (in German) around of this model (the model itself didn't survive through the last war) The kit has some minor and larger mistakes in it, but genenerally speaking it is a nice example of a Dutch warship of the era. The whole historic blabla of Mamoli is nonsense. There never was such a ship names Friesland (and the Friesland that existed was of different build than this ship). Nevertheless, a kit worth building. (I did hesitate long in choosing between Prins Willem and Friesland, and I finally went for PW. Unfortunatedly, my house is far too small for two of these large models.....) Jan
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Just to get the dimensions right: has your green cutting mat a centimeter- or an inch-grid? (the 'direct' question is ofcourse: how wide are the separate parts of the sail?) Jan
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I guess you're right. Jan
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But the colour of the hull and the number of masts are correct You have to go a bit to the south: Adrieke is/was/used to be Flemish Jan
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Danmark is two mast square rigged, this one is not.... and Adrieke is not Danish Jan
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There is quite a lot on all kinds of Dutch ships, but most of it is in Dutch. Google Van Beijlen (or alternatively Van Beylen) and you'll see quite a lot coming up on botters, hoogaars and other Dutch ships. Jan
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The book bij Sopers dates from 1947, and has seen new prints in 1971, 1974(?) and 2000. Still widely available second hand. Jan
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Ofcourse they are not the same: why use tow names for the same ship (more often in Dutch, different ships share a common name) Botters are fishing ships (see-going, originating from the southers parts of the former Zuiderzee) Boeiers were originally small freightships, in later years (i.e. from the 18th century onwards) mostly build as yachts. However, the shiptype called boeier did evolve quite a bit, as can be seen in this 17the century picture..... Different rig, different hull, different everything. Still: same name..... Jan
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An other way for the blocks could be: tie a half hith knot, and use one seizing to tie the loose end. But: nobody ever siad there was a quick way of doing these things Jan
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If not, it's an identical twin Jan
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Hi Anja, Google 'laker', and you'll see that they have all something in common: kind of boxy appearance. Made to fit in the lcks of the canals between the lakes. (compare it to the Dutch 'motorspits' that is made to the specification of the locks in the Willemsvaart). As Andy is living in the lake area, many (if not all) of his mystery-ones are from the great lakes. Most of the Canadian but some of the from that other country. Jan PS it's unfortunate that MSW1 disappeared, I've seen this Andy pic before.....
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Ah, well.... still on line It is Snellius. Phaps I should have used a pic in a somewhat less Dutch atmosphere
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next upload, and then I'm off-line for the next 18 hours. Jan
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Is it arthur atkinson?
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laker again
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hmmmm...... Problem is: I don't live near the water, so I can't use my own pics of totally unknown vessels... Jan
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I know, but it takes me too much time to find one that can keep you busy for more than ten minutes Jan
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