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Why not, affaid that you have to do even more household jobs ? We have at least to tell her that she has to clean this thread of all this off-topic junk Jan

We can always give her a hint Jan

Hi Danny, And when this one is named, you can move her to the 'ugliest ship' thread.... Jan

http://www.fonv.nl/vbb/galerij/VN4.html It's an botter originally build in Urk in 1899, and now recreational purposes. She was rather heavily restpored in 2000 http://www.johvdmeulen.nl/pr-bottervn4.html Old ships for recreational purposes are allowed to use their last known fishing registration (this one VN4, wich is for Vollenhove) Jan

But apart form botters and kwakken there are many ships around on the Dutch inland and shore waters. Many belong to a certain 'group', but the variations between ships from various villages and even various builders within a village were large. Many of the ships therefore have apart from their type (botter, kwak, bol, schokker, bons, blazer, punter, hoogaars, schouw etc) an indication of the village/region they were build: Marken, volendam, urk spakenburg, schelde etc.) Local variations existed dus to different sailing and fishing conditions, but also just do to local habits. Almost all these ships were build to specification of the owner/schipper of the ship, so even personal preferences may have played a role. Jan

Hi Pat, Single mast and side vanes isn't enough to identify a Dutch wooden vessel. (but being in Volendam, it's presumably a botter ) Jan

Merci beaucoup! Jan

Hi David, I have been looking quite a long time for the French ship. I can't find any French Iphigenie's from the steam era. Can you give some more info please? And now for the dazzle paint.... Jan

eugenie?

But you have plenty of ice available

convincing ice! Jan

Compliments to the admiral (and the carpenter who made them) Jan

How many funnels did you photoshop in or out to make her 'ungoogleble'? Jan

Too small for RMS Imperator, I guess Jan

A little bit (but not too much, I guess) off topic: Is there anything known yet on the release data and price of Revenge? Jan

I prefer the non-stacked version in post #58 Has more atmosphere and depth in it. Jan

And she seesm to be a tanker of some sort.... Jan

Question: what do you use to colour the backside of the card? Is that just plain watercolours? Jan

So am I! Jan

And: are you using stained wood, or is it some kind of blood-wood? Jan

Yup, that's her (Although technically speaking Adrieke should give the 'all clear') Jan

Check het type again: perhaps there are more ships sharing a name As far as I can see this one is a 1960-ies destroyer, and not a 1930-ies Vichy cruiser.... Jan

She looks so small for a 1930-ies cruiser.... Wild guess: Vichy-French? Jan

Hi Een-dragt, The ships of 1615 and 1666 were admirality commisioned and owned, so they were not fit for any kind of trading at all. VOC (Verenigde Oostindische compagie - United East India Company, in English mostly refered to as Dutch east India Company) was a group of smaller local companies working together in their east india venture. Therefore, the name Eendacht/Eendragt (which translates as Unity) was very popular: VOC had around 16 ships of the same name over their history. The name Eendracht was popular everywhere: the young Dutch republic was rapidly gaining wealth and power, and attribuited this to the unity between the provinces. Google Eendracht, and you'll und up with far more than just a couple of ships or warehouses.... With respect to your warehouse: the larger VOC ships doid not enter the town: they were unloaded while outside the town, and theiur cargo was shipped into town unsing smaller crafts. So, there will never ever have been a ship of the size of Eendracht (1666) in front of your warehouse. (sorry to say...) In this 1550 map of the town, you can get the more or less familair picture of the Amsterdam 'harbour': large ships still at see (Zuiderzee, to be precise), while smaller craft is sailing into town. IN later years the seegoing ships were even larger than the vessels depicted here, so no way to get into the canals and singels of the town (btw Singel is the outermost canal in this map, still functioning as a moat, and no warehouses around by that time) Jan

I think they are called fenders, having more or less the same function as wales. Jan