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I disagree, as it is not clear if that is a waterway ir a ceiling plank. As noted, though, difference in interpretation are allowed. Given she had undergone some recent repairs to her rigging at a remote port, it is conceivable (to me) that there may have been a need for a block yet none of the correct size available, so a replacement was used.

No worries, Mark. Differences in interpretation happen. Take a look at the 2002 (I think it was) report where Trench 2 is discussed. No indication of the waterway there (this area is adjacent ti the area shown above). In addition, the profile of the excavation also does not show one. It is idd, that's for certain! That scupper does not appear to protrude beyond the planks. I am still working through some of the reports. The absence of a waterway would seem significant, though I am wondering if it was common on all decks or only on "weather" decks?

This topic remains very informative! I had not delved into the excavation and survey reports on the Colossus before. They are quite interesting. Of particular note concerning the "stop beam" (note that this is a term the research team coined) is the following analysis from the 2012 Monitoring and Investigation Report available here (page 38): http://www.cismas.org.uk/downloads.php "Just below the gun port a curved timber beam was fastened to the side of the hull, over the inner hull planking (figs 24, 25 & 31). This timber has been assigned the name ‘stop beam’ and its likely function was for the gun carriage to bump against when the gun was pulled up into the firing position – rather than bumping against the inner hull planking. I have been unable to find any concordances for this structural element in any of the literature on ships of the period (or indeed on any sailing vessels). However, a similar wooden beam is known in 19th century terrestrial gun emplacements where it is called a hurter. The stated function of the hurter was to protect the parapet from the wheels of the gun carriage (OED). The stop beam is 1.40m long, 0.16m wide and 0.26m thick at its widest point. The surface of the beam is curved, presumably to facilitate aiming of the gun forward or astern of the beam. The stop beam is fastened to the hull using iron fastenings and trenails. On the underside of this beam (now facing north) were a number of incised lines, one of which consists of three parallel lines, resembling a Roman numeral ‘III’ (fig 32). These may represent builder’s marks – and would have been very difficult to see or access when the ship was upright. Incidentally, this is the third MGD port on the starboard side counting from the stern. The function of this piece of wood was presumably to protect the side of the ship from the impact of the gun carriage when pulled up into the firing position (fig 31). Whether stop beams are a peculiarity of Colossus or merely absent from the literature is not at this stage known – but I suspect the former case is more likely." On a related note, I do not believe that, given the level of attention shown to documenting the survey, they ommitted the waterway, but rather it was not there. Note the scupper that was located at deck level, which would have been covered were there a waterway (note - down is up n these photographs and the sketch. That is, the deck is at the top and the upper deck is at the bottom).

Welcome! Your first build looks quite nice. I look forward to the building of theGrand(kids) fleet!

The shape and depth of the lower hull, amount of ballast and length to beam ratio all came into play. Prior to the late 1700's, generally by trial and error. Scientific approaches implemented at varous times in different nations. Note as well that there was, in naval captains, a strong tendency ti over mast the ship. See Ships and Science for a very readable and thorough overview.

There are many freely available, depending solely on what type of ship and what era. Start with any of the better pdf versions of Steel's Vade Mecum, Rees' Cyclopaedia, Fincham, Falconer &c. Modern reproductions of several are also available. Another source would be archeological reports (too many to list - check places like academia.edu as starting points). Perhaps easiest (although more expensive) would be the publications at Seawatch Books (Fireship Comet, Swan series, the Niad and so on). Exceptional naratives and very nicely done recreations of plans for the model builder.

I am very much a fan of anything without cannon 😀. The Chebacco has always appealed to me so that took top honors.

Where was the single wheel mentioned? That seems odd for the period and the designer.

Progressing nicely. As to your last post, are you referring to keel (horizontal), sternpost (vertical) or rudder with rudder post? Keel would not be rounded on upper surface and taper bow to stern so slight as to be imoerceptible at this scale (fraction of a mm total taper).

I, like you, have been struggling with planking the hull. In my case, I have 3 hills in various degrees of poorly completed planking. In my case, I am struggling to wrap my mind around how to do that clear tape thing (hasn't worked yet for me) and how to use proportional dividers. I hate to scrap a hill that I put a lot of effort into detailing the interior, but I suspect that my ECB shall soon sink into the abyss, to be started once more from the beginning.

Beautiful work, and a wide variety of subject matter to boot! Thank you for sharing these with us. All the best -

Well, that's a fantastic find! Thank you!!!!!

I have periodically searched for said treatise in many of the usual suspect online repositories with no success. I am NOT sure if these would be the same as the tables in his Naval Architecture (available in PDF less the large draughts) at https://books.google.com/books?id=TWsmw-QqvmAC It may be found as a printed version, perhaps, in various libraries (such as New York Public Library, NMM &c.) although I have not looked for it in that format. GOOD LUCK!

Are they in Scantlings of Royal Navy Hips by Allan Yedlinsky?

Actually, based on number of guns, it is a sloop, which is also how the NMM describes it.

Greetings! Well, after a year of fretting over the planking, I guess it is time to bring the ECB back to the table, grit my teeth, and plunge into finishing the hull. Here, then, are some images of the current status. Wish me luck!

Welcome - and enjoy your new hobby! That item is generally known as a "third hand". Sold at hobby stores and online as well (see Model expo, Micromark, and other front page sponsors).

Nicely done, Mobbsie. She came out a beauty. Looking forward to the next one.

Welcome to deciphering 17th, 18th and 19th century "ratings"! The number of guns was meant more as a guide than a fixed rule, in most cases, and reflected the nominal armament that a ship was designed to carry. Captains, however, had some leeway in the actual arming of the ship. As but one example, the frigate Constitution was "designed" by Humphreys to carry 44 guns as the main armament. Various cruises over the years carried as many as 52 guns. There are reports that some vessels were regrettably overarmed by the Captain, resulting in poor handling and stability. At best, use the number that the hull was pierced for along the sides as a guide for the intended number of guns, recognizing that there may have been more carried as chasers or lighter guns on the weather deck that increased the count. Yep, not much help, I'm afraid!

Well, now. This has been an interesting quest. I have not been able to track down any easily available archeological survey information (but, that is not to say that there is none). What I have found is the following from 1977: Marsden, Peter, and David Lyon. 1977. “A Wreck Believed to Be the Warship Anne, Lost in 1690.” International Journal of Nautical Archaeology 6 (1): 9–20. doi:10.1111/j.1095-9270.1977.tb00984.x. Endsor should have some fairly authoritative information in his book - he recently (2015) presented a fairly well attended symposium concerning the Anne. Hope this helps!

Bill - I haven't had the chance to check my files yet, but should have some time later today. In the interim, have you checked on academia.edu?

Both the CD set and the shop notes are worthwhile investments. They complement rather than duplicate each other. For me, having the "how to" tips in printed form is more practical- I can work over the guide, so to speak. For the casual, hobbyist builder (rather kit or scratch), I think the shop notes can serve a very practical, long-term purpose. I find I use the NRJ CD collection as a stepping off point for research on specific ships or topics. For me, at least, I find a well documented article with a rich bibliography more useful than pretty pictures. I use the references cited to dig back to primary sources when possible, rather than rely solely on the interpretation in the article.

Some, yes. Some, no. The articles are of widely varied quality (historical perspective and how-to perspective). While some of the "how-to" books are better than others, most contain useful advice. If you are concerned with absolute historical accuracy, there are no books to guide you. However, if you want to learn how to build a model, then many of the older authors offer great tips (people like Davis, McGann, Underhill, Hahn, & Longridge). They were writing for the home modeller mostly in the days before there were affordable kits. If you get one reference, get the NRG Shopnotes (okay, that would be 2 books now).

Let me offer a brief assortment that you may consider. This listing contains both print and PDF verswions (with open-source links where available). My suggestion is to seek out reviews on books of interest (some are more user friendly than others, some geared more for experienced builders than others, and so on). Enjoy! Model Shipbuilding Resources 20Mar2016.pdf

All very good resources, and most available via the interweb or used book sites. The entire series by Salisbury in MM is worth a look, if only to trace practice back to source documents. In terms of contemporary records, Sutherland (1711) offers a good description. You have me curious, sir - tell us a bit about your book, please. The brief tease you offer is tantalising!