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Here are a couple of links to the treatise Dave referenced above. Steel, David. 1794a. “The Elements and Practice of Rigging and Seamanship.” Historic Naval Ships Association. 1794. http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/age-of-sail/the-elements-and-practice-of-rigging-and-seamanship/. ———. 1794b. The Elements and Practice of Rigging and Seamanship, Etc. [By David Steel.]. David Steel. https://books.google.com/books?id=X235MgEACAAJ. Here are a few more that may be of some use. Blunt, Edmund March. 1813. Seamanship, Both in Theory and Practice: To Which Is Annexed, an Essay on Naval Tactics and Signals : Also, Regulations for the Government of the Navy of the United States of America ... : Including Also, Forms of General and Particular Orders for the Better Government and Discipline of Armed Ships ... : With a System of Naval Discipline, and the Acts Concerning Letters of Marque, Reprisals, Their Officers and Men : With a Cartel for Usage and Exchange of Prisoners ... E.M. Blunt. https://books.google.com/books?id=cPpOAAAAYAAJ. Bourd_ de Villehuet, Jacques. 1788. The Manoeuverer, or Skilful Seaman: Being an Essay on the Theory and Practice of the Various Movements of a Ship at Sea, as Well as of Naval Evolutions in General. Printed for S. Hooper. http://archive.org/details/manoeuvererorski00bour. Duffy, Michael. 2005. “The Gunnery at Trafalgar: Training, Tactics or Temperament?” Journal for Maritime Research 7 (1): 140–69. https://doi.org/10.1080/21533369.2005.9668349. Park, Robert. 1706. The Art of Sea-Fighting: In Five Parts ... Printed for Rich. Mount and Tho. Page. https://books.google.com/books?id=CH1ZAAAAYAAJ
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Here are a couple that may be of some use. Guilmartin, John F. 2011. “The Military Revolution in Warfare at Sea during the Early Modern Era: Technological Origins, Operational Outcomes and Strategic Consequences.” Journal for Maritime Research 13 (2): 129–37. https://doi.org/10.1080/21533369.2011.622890. International Congress of Historical Sciences (1913 : London, England). 1914. Naval and Military Essays; Being Papers Read in the Naval and Military Section at the International Congress of Historical Studies, 1913. Cambridge, University Press. http://archive.org/details/navalmilitaryess00interich. Corbett, Julian Stafford, ed. 1905. Fighting Instructions, 1530-1816. [London] : Printed for the Navy Records Society. http://archive.org/details/fightinginstruct00corbuoft. “‘Sailing and Fighting Instructions for His Majesty’s Fleet’, 1775.” 2016. May 15, 2016. http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Signalling/SFI(1775).html. Truxtun, Thomas. 1797. Instructions, Signals, and Explanations, Ordered for the United States Fleet: By Thomas Truxtun. Baltimore: Printed by John Hayes, in Public-Alley. http://www.history.navy.mil/library/anh/found1.htm.
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How old is the dock the Victory is berthed within? For reference, Drydock 1 in the Charleston, MA (USA) dates to about 1815 and is more than large enough for the Constitution, so likely large enough for a first rate. If the early US had one of that size, I am quite sure Britainia did.
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Hull bottom paint/colour used in 1812 era
trippwj replied to TGHill's topic in Nautical/Naval History
No need for copper plating on the lakes as no Teredo "worms" (actually a mollusc). As to the color, I doubt there was a standard. Possibly just a heavy tarring to help seal the wood, but given the added expense of painting (pigment) probably left natural. -
I came across the item below recently and though it may be of insterst to some - Anonymous. 1813. A Complete List of the American Navy: Showing the Name, Number of Guns, Commanders’ Names, and Station of Each Vessel, with the Names of All the Officers in Service, for October, 1813; and Steel’s List of the Navy of Great Britain, for July, 1813. Russell, Cutler, and Company and J. Belcher. https://books.google.com/books?id=zfw-AAAAYAAJ. 1813 A_Complete_List_of_the_American_Navy.pdf
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Ship Kit Database
trippwj replied to vmwilson1's topic in How to use the MSW forum - **NO MODELING CONTENT**
No problem. I sent him a note on Facebook - will let you know if I hear back. -
Ship Kit Database
trippwj replied to vmwilson1's topic in How to use the MSW forum - **NO MODELING CONTENT**
Contact Adam @skerryamp (the developer) - not sure if he stops by MSW very often these days, though. -
What rigging goes where? Was it standardized?
trippwj replied to Kevin's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Whilst there was a degree of standardization, the bosun (I think, may have been another non-officer) and sailing master had great leeway with where running lines terminated (belaying points), obviously within the physical constraints of the vessel and total rig. Once the landsman learned his way around the vessel, including the riggong, he would "test" for his next rate. If moving to a different ship of same class, there was a shallow learning curve. A different class or size, though, could be quite different. There are no references (official or otherwise) from the period which I am aware of that specified the precise run for a line, but rather specified diameter, blocks, attachment points at fixed end and so forth. -
That looks like the 1919 by Davis. A very good overview but, and this is the key to using any reference, the value depends on the degree of historical accuracy you desire. The higher the level of period accuracy desired, the more important contemporary records and resources become. This is a good reference for general wooden shipbuilding, though not specific to period, nation or vessel.
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Amazing work by you both! Welcome to MSW - I have admired your work for some time, and as I have no artistic ability, enjoy seeing the results of those so endowed.
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Ship model terms in German. Where to find?
trippwj replied to greenstone's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Sorry it took so long - have been recovering from a crashed hard drive (fortunately, I did have a good backup of my databases). Here are a few downloadable dictionaries that may be of use to you (in addition to the members available to support with translation). Neuman, Henry. 1799. A Marine Pocket Dictionary of the Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and German Languages, with an English-French and French-English Index. London: Printed for the author and sold by T. Hurst. http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008895773. Paasch, H. 1885. From Keel to Truck: A Marine Dictionary in English, French and German, Amply Illustrated by Explanatory Diagrams of the Most Important Details for the Use of Ship-Owners ... Antwerp: Ratinckx Frères. http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008909120. Paasch, Heinrich. 1901. “From Keel to Truck” Marine Dictionary in English, French & German... The author. https://books.google.com/books?id=mG_VAAAAMAAJ&. Reehorst, Karel Pieter ter. 1850. The Mariner’s and Merchant’s Polyglot Technical Dictionary of Upwards of Five Thousand Nautical, Steam, and Ship-Building Terms, Commercial and Scientific, in Ten Different Languages, ... with a Precise Explanatory Key to the Pronunciation of These Languages, and a Comparative Table of the Money, Weights and Measures of Sea Ports. London : Williams and Northgate ... http://archive.org/details/gri_33125012932121. -
Ship model terms in German. Where to find?
trippwj replied to greenstone's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Somewhere on this forum I think I shared a link to a German/French(?)/English nautical phrasebook. I don't have access to my digital archive at the moment (time to head off to the paying job) but will check into it tonight if I get the chance -
This looks fantastic - love these fishing type vessels. Mind if I also follow along?
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Looking at Crothers, most of those with mast rake given in table 29.1 refer back to reports (contemporary) in the Boston Daily Atlas. Duncan MacLean, over a 7 year period, provided information on some 161 vessels. Mast rakes given in the table by Crothers (main mast, inches of rake in 12 inches) range from "nearly vertical" to 1 1/2" (or about a 7.1 degree rake for the Witch). Note thst there are several with that degree of rake.
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The Boston Daily Atlas is, in general, a very good resource for reasonably accurate descriptions of vessels, taking into account that at least some of the narratives were as much braggadocio (by owner and builder) as factual. The owner may embellish in order to one-up competing owners (and, perhaps, for ego enhancement). The builder may embellish to gain more sales. Either way, newspaper accounts are pretty good references. Chapelle, regrettably, was very lax in his citation of sources used. Howe and Matthews (1986 Dover reprint) provide 4 pages on the ship, though no citations. Some highlights: 220x40x21 and 1498 tons (om) or 997 tons (foreign measurement). The mast rake varied - fore 1 1/4, main 1 1/2 and mizzen 1 3/4 inches to the foot. Also provides mast lengths and so forth. Probably, based on the syntax, from the news article. David MacGregor in The Tea Clippers offers an alternate lines plan and a photo of the model by McNarry. He also uses the 220 foot length (note that Lubbock went with 202 feet) in the text, although the plan uses 202 feet. While the notes on the plan are difficult to read, I could make out that it was based to some degree on that of Chapelle.
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Here are a few items which may be of use to you: Brooks, F. W. 1927. “A French Eighteenth-Century Document On The Construction Of Galleys.” The Mariner’s Mirror 13 (3): 238–47. https://doi.org/10.1080/00253359.1927.10655426 Gardiner, Robert, and Richard W. Unger, eds. 1994. Cogs, Caravels, and Galleons: The Sailing Ship, 1000-1650. Conway’s History of the Ship. Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press. Gray, Randal. 1978. “SPINOLA’S GALLEYS IN THE NARROW SEAS, 1599–1603.” The Mariner’s Mirror 64 (1): 71–83. https://doi.org/10.1080/00253359.1978.10659067 Hoving, Ab J. 2014. 17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships: Text, Photos and Plans for the Ship Modeler. Florence, OR: SeaWatch Books. http://www.seawatchbooks.com/114003 Kirsch, Peter. 1990. The Galleon: The Great Ships of the Armada Era. Annapolis, Md.: Naval Institute Press. http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/002216432
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That is correct - the actual length of the spar. The angle from horizontal could be changed to a certain degree, which would change that horizontal measurement. The physical length of the spar, however, remained the same.
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