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In the US, the Post Office is not responsible for assigning addresses - that is done by the local authority having jurisdiction over 9-1-1 addressing (sometimes city/town, sometime county). These lists from the municipality are then provided to the USPS and our delivery route addressing is updated. Some of the most common errors we encounter: 1. People continue to use old addresses rather than update to new addresses (example: using RR1 Box xxx when the town has implemented street addressing such as 123 Rugged Road) 2. Folks put in a change of address - after 12 months mail is returned to the sender with the new address listed. After 18 months mail is returned as Unable to Forward. Periodical rate mail, a copy of the cover is returned to the mailer postage due with the new address label included. 3. Folks forget to include apartment/unit/lot number. Our carriers are good, but they don's know everyone in a 200 unit apartment building/mobile home park. Those might get sent back as Insufficient Address. 4. PO Boxes get closed - either intentionally or for non-payment. 11 days after the payment is due mail gets returned as Moved Left No Address. We try our darnedest to get mail to the right person at the right address, but without the recipients assistance we can only do so much. Note that this only applies to the USPS - in other nations your results may vary!

Previously only available via the "print on demand" vendors, I today located the following document which has some very interesting information concerning the state of British Naval Architecture at the close of the 18th century. I have not yet located Volume 2 in a downloadable format, but my quest continues. European Magazine. 1791. A Collection of Papers on Naval Architecture, Originally Communicated through the Channel of the European Magazine; in Which Publication the Further Communications on This Subject Will Be Continued. proprietors of the European Magazine. https://books.google.com/books?id=SZG_hYooNwcC.

Keep in mind that this was not paint as we know it (no barrels full of yellow paint or barrels of red), but rather pigments to make paint. Usually a dry pigment was shipped and mixed with the solvent/carrier and other pigments only when needed. It is unlikely that the modern approach (lay down a base layer then paint over that) was used as painting that big beastie was very time consuming and resource intensive.

This may help a little - shows how the mizzen mast on the Frigate Constitution is stepped.

In terms of how the mast is mounted to the hull, search for mast step and look at some if the examples. You may also want to search google books for Fincham (I think. Will get details ehen next at my computer) mast making. Now, as to your other question concerning not showing masts on a model. There are at least 2 reasons that I am aware of. First is aesthetics - some find the beauty of the hull more appealing when not cluttered with all the fiddly bits of sticks and strings. The second is size - adding the full rigging to a hull increases the size (and risk of damage, and dust collection ability) substantially. In the end it is what you, the builder, desire.

The time frame of interest is important as rigging nomenclature was far from standard until well into the mid-19th century. As to Chappelle, he did a remarkable job with the resources available to him - all paper based, no"searchable" databases and so forth, just card catalogs and maybe a hardcopy list of items. His biggest shortcoming, in my view, is poor documentation of sources for much of his work.

Here are a couple of links to the treatise Dave referenced above. Steel, David. 1794a. “The Elements and Practice of Rigging and Seamanship.” Historic Naval Ships Association. 1794. http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/age-of-sail/the-elements-and-practice-of-rigging-and-seamanship/. ———. 1794b. The Elements and Practice of Rigging and Seamanship, Etc. [By David Steel.]. David Steel. https://books.google.com/books?id=X235MgEACAAJ. Here are a few more that may be of some use. Blunt, Edmund March. 1813. Seamanship, Both in Theory and Practice: To Which Is Annexed, an Essay on Naval Tactics and Signals : Also, Regulations for the Government of the Navy of the United States of America ... : Including Also, Forms of General and Particular Orders for the Better Government and Discipline of Armed Ships ... : With a System of Naval Discipline, and the Acts Concerning Letters of Marque, Reprisals, Their Officers and Men : With a Cartel for Usage and Exchange of Prisoners ... E.M. Blunt. https://books.google.com/books?id=cPpOAAAAYAAJ. Bourd_ de Villehuet, Jacques. 1788. The Manoeuverer, or Skilful Seaman: Being an Essay on the Theory and Practice of the Various Movements of a Ship at Sea, as Well as of Naval Evolutions in General. Printed for S. Hooper. http://archive.org/details/manoeuvererorski00bour. Duffy, Michael. 2005. “The Gunnery at Trafalgar: Training, Tactics or Temperament?” Journal for Maritime Research 7 (1): 140–69. https://doi.org/10.1080/21533369.2005.9668349. Park, Robert. 1706. The Art of Sea-Fighting: In Five Parts ... Printed for Rich. Mount and Tho. Page. https://books.google.com/books?id=CH1ZAAAAYAAJ

Here are a couple that may be of some use. Guilmartin, John F. 2011. “The Military Revolution in Warfare at Sea during the Early Modern Era: Technological Origins, Operational Outcomes and Strategic Consequences.” Journal for Maritime Research 13 (2): 129–37. https://doi.org/10.1080/21533369.2011.622890. International Congress of Historical Sciences (1913 : London, England). 1914. Naval and Military Essays; Being Papers Read in the Naval and Military Section at the International Congress of Historical Studies, 1913. Cambridge, University Press. http://archive.org/details/navalmilitaryess00interich. Corbett, Julian Stafford, ed. 1905. Fighting Instructions, 1530-1816. [London] : Printed for the Navy Records Society. http://archive.org/details/fightinginstruct00corbuoft. “‘Sailing and Fighting Instructions for His Majesty’s Fleet’, 1775.” 2016. May 15, 2016. http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Signalling/SFI(1775).html. Truxtun, Thomas. 1797. Instructions, Signals, and Explanations, Ordered for the United States Fleet: By Thomas Truxtun. Baltimore: Printed by John Hayes, in Public-Alley. http://www.history.navy.mil/library/anh/found1.htm.

How old is the dock the Victory is berthed within? For reference, Drydock 1 in the Charleston, MA (USA) dates to about 1815 and is more than large enough for the Constitution, so likely large enough for a first rate. If the early US had one of that size, I am quite sure Britainia did.

Off to a good start! Happy New Year, sir!!

No need for copper plating on the lakes as no Teredo "worms" (actually a mollusc). As to the color, I doubt there was a standard. Possibly just a heavy tarring to help seal the wood, but given the added expense of painting (pigment) probably left natural.

I am looking forward to another build by Sjors the musician! Greetings to you & Anja!!

I came across the item below recently and though it may be of insterst to some - Anonymous. 1813. A Complete List of the American Navy: Showing the Name, Number of Guns, Commanders’ Names, and Station of Each Vessel, with the Names of All the Officers in Service, for October, 1813; and Steel’s List of the Navy of Great Britain, for July, 1813. Russell, Cutler, and Company and J. Belcher. https://books.google.com/books?id=zfw-AAAAYAAJ. 1813 A_Complete_List_of_the_American_Navy.pdf

No problem. I sent him a note on Facebook - will let you know if I hear back.

Contact Adam @skerryamp (the developer) - not sure if he stops by MSW very often these days, though.

Whilst there was a degree of standardization, the bosun (I think, may have been another non-officer) and sailing master had great leeway with where running lines terminated (belaying points), obviously within the physical constraints of the vessel and total rig. Once the landsman learned his way around the vessel, including the riggong, he would "test" for his next rate. If moving to a different ship of same class, there was a shallow learning curve. A different class or size, though, could be quite different. There are no references (official or otherwise) from the period which I am aware of that specified the precise run for a line, but rather specified diameter, blocks, attachment points at fixed end and so forth.

That looks like the 1919 by Davis. A very good overview but, and this is the key to using any reference, the value depends on the degree of historical accuracy you desire. The higher the level of period accuracy desired, the more important contemporary records and resources become. This is a good reference for general wooden shipbuilding, though not specific to period, nation or vessel.

Amazing work by you both! Welcome to MSW - I have admired your work for some time, and as I have no artistic ability, enjoy seeing the results of those so endowed.

Sorry it took so long - have been recovering from a crashed hard drive (fortunately, I did have a good backup of my databases). Here are a few downloadable dictionaries that may be of use to you (in addition to the members available to support with translation). Neuman, Henry. 1799. A Marine Pocket Dictionary of the Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and German Languages, with an English-French and French-English Index. London: Printed for the author and sold by T. Hurst. http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008895773. Paasch, H. 1885. From Keel to Truck: A Marine Dictionary in English, French and German, Amply Illustrated by Explanatory Diagrams of the Most Important Details for the Use of Ship-Owners ... Antwerp: Ratinckx Frères. http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008909120. Paasch, Heinrich. 1901. “From Keel to Truck” Marine Dictionary in English, French & German... The author. https://books.google.com/books?id=mG_VAAAAMAAJ&. Reehorst, Karel Pieter ter. 1850. The Mariner’s and Merchant’s Polyglot Technical Dictionary of Upwards of Five Thousand Nautical, Steam, and Ship-Building Terms, Commercial and Scientific, in Ten Different Languages, ... with a Precise Explanatory Key to the Pronunciation of These Languages, and a Comparative Table of the Money, Weights and Measures of Sea Ports. London : Williams and Northgate ... http://archive.org/details/gri_33125012932121.

Somewhere on this forum I think I shared a link to a German/French(?)/English nautical phrasebook. I don't have access to my digital archive at the moment (time to head off to the paying job) but will check into it tonight if I get the chance

Roger - The package arrived today. Thank you so much! The Connie disk is indeed extensive engineering drawings from the 1927-31 restoration as well as some from later periods (1984, for example). Many more drawings than available on the CD from the museum. Many thanks!

This looks fantastic - love these fishing type vessels. Mind if I also follow along?

Wicked nice looking! The planking on mine has now taken about 4 years (including packing and moving to a new to us house about 3 years ago). I am envious of your success!

Looking at Crothers, most of those with mast rake given in table 29.1 refer back to reports (contemporary) in the Boston Daily Atlas. Duncan MacLean, over a 7 year period, provided information on some 161 vessels. Mast rakes given in the table by Crothers (main mast, inches of rake in 12 inches) range from "nearly vertical" to 1 1/2" (or about a 7.1 degree rake for the Witch). Note thst there are several with that degree of rake.

Larger versions of the Chapelle plans may be at the Smithsonian. The MacGregor plans may be available from this catalog: Https://www.ssgreatbritain.org/sites/default/files/kcfinder/files/david-macgregor-ship-plans-collection-july-2013.pdf