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Thanks Kevin and Mark :-) Still trying to replicate the hard tacks in 1:100, a comrade in my german forum already gave me the recipe: http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sheet_ship_biscuit.htm But where do I get original lamb for the stew and beef in 1:100 suitable for the needed small portions?!? Fork and spoon? Did the ranks have forks? I would have guessed just knife and wooden spoon in 1805? Any ideas? Daniel -
Thank you Mark, there are several jars, jugs and small and medium casks and buckets missing: among others (not yet identified) there should be fresh water barrel on the beam, freshwater jar on the table, bucket for catching/bringing the food, and not to forget, the bucket for the "processed" food on days that the heads were no option weather wise - buck´t and chuck´t :-) The small model gave me the impression, that chests were no suitable option for the big man of war. If I look at the space and see that 17 man were confined in there, even shoe boxes would not work. Also the question is, how in clearing for action 800 chests were to be managed?!? Duffels were easy to be thrown in the hold - or elsewhere. Even as protection against splinters. Managing and stacking chests in that quantity is much more of a task under clearing circumstances. Seen this thoughts, the option shown in AOTS Bellona with the duffle bags hanging both sides of the ports in between the knees seems the most logical. I do for some reason not believe, that the sailors had a chest stacked in on of the lower decks. All the best, Daniel
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Just discovered in AOTS Bellona: A sketch of the hammoc nettings - the hammoc much more looking like Cannon balls :-) - showing the protecting cover. The index says: "Cover (tarred before 1780, painted afterwards)" I suppose that this was a rather light tarring for not spoiling the hammocs?!? Daniel
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Thank you all :-) @Popeye: I do not know of racks in between the guns as this would interfere with the handling. As far as I know, extra shot was kept in nets/tarpaulins in the ships center line. Daniel
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As always, if curious, have to try out ... ... easy to see, it is getting tight. One place has to stay free because of the hanging knee. Still missing some jugs and a handful of barrels and the duffels in the corners. There were about 800 seamen living, eating and sleeping on the area of the decks, means 400 each deck. As the aft was reserved for ranks so the remaining area was about 12 guns long each side. This makes a count of 400 / 12 / 2 and gives about 17 people each mess. So I understand the shift system with the watches, as there is maximum space for 11 or 13 people on the table. All those 17 people´s belonging had most possibly also to be stored in that confined space ... ... just some thoughts ... DAniel
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... these ones?!? ...hihihihihi.... Thank you Sirs, but cleared for action is the most boring one in my opinion - just guns and their equipment, everything else stripped ... ...boooooring ;-) Daniel
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Here we went on in the lower deck, getting tighter ... ...first table dummies ... ... followed by some real model making ... ... first sitting trials ... ... and tight we go. bom apetite! XXXDAn
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ROFL!!! THIS made my day! Thanks for the wonderful input, Daniel
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The usual stunning research and execution :-) Bravo!!! With a deep bow, DAniel
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A always nicely presented little detail in many films: The names painted onto the carriages of the guns. To be seen for example in MaC in the first scene on the gun deck. Fiction - means invention from writers and film makers - or are there any historical hints or proves for it? Thank you, Daniel
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Great work! Cheers Daniel
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Hello Robin and Fortres, thank you for the pictures above :-) There are some glitches in Turners drawing of December 05. I do not know if these things are really guns, there is much discussion about it. Also the position of three of them on the poop rails is quite uncommon. Also are to be seen woolings on the mizzen - repairs from Gibraltar still as the great repair was done with iron loops? Some guessing was done, if he did the drawing on board - it seems to have snow and therefor was cold - or if he finished or even did completely by memory afterwards in the studio. Turner was in first place an artist, and reality had to step back behind the artistic expression. See the first painting of the ship of the line, how exaggerated the heights are - looks like a 12 story building, people standing in the gunports ... Also the last painting was quite controversial if I remember well - it was a contract work by the marine and he melted several stages of the combat into one picture - not to the delight of his clients ... All the best, Daniel
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... functioning flintlocks ... ... ?!? ... ...hmmmm... When I was in Austria start of this year I had the great honor in meeting with Willi Meischl, wunderful modelmaker and weapon collector. He showed me an english marine trombone with working flints. I did not miss the chance and got a nice shot of it while flashing with both states: Arm back and the small cover protecting the powder closed and arm in front with the cover swung open and the egnition. Fascinating as agood friend of mine would say ;-) Thanks Jan and Popeye!, Daniel PS: Here is a link to Wiilis page http://www.schifferlbauer.at/seite64.html and his York http://www.schifferlbauer.at/seite16.html
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Thank you David, Popeye and Mark, very appreciated! XXXDAn
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Thank you Michael and Robin :-) XXXDAn
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Woooonderful! Love it, that is nicely inspired, can already small the fish, Daniel
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After my small sidekick ... http://modelshipworl...-display/page-4 ... a quick return to my main project as the cap-squares arrived yesterday :-) Immediately build the template ... ... and assembled :-) Also the gunlocks ... ... almost to small to be pictured, but still managed to fix them easily by using the sprue to be inserted in a hole underneath. So mission accomplished, the guns are completed :-) And with ease I managed to triple the number of parts for each gun from 7 to 21 ... Hurray Best regards, sincerily, Daniel
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No this was still before ... ... the camera refused to take pictures afterwards as being believed to be too disturbing ... ;-) XXXDAn
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The mess and sailors chests ... A lot of contemporary pictures show sailors sitting on their chests while having their meals on the tables that were hung up from the deck beams. Most AOTS and the Vic in P. show benches to sit on instead. This gives me some of my usual intriguing questions: - Was the use of benches something special in the navy for that in case of clearing for combat there were no hundrets of chests to be removed into the hold? - Were bags used instead like in the sketch of AOTS Bellona? - Were their any chests for the common sailors on the RN? - Were chests used at the merchant vessels or smaller RN vessels where they did not interfere with gun exercise? - Were the cupboard plates and the barrels removed in case of exercising? How did everything did not get messed up or broken? - was the table always fixed to the inboard hull or was it sometimes left swinging by a second rope to avoid spilling? Thank you for any hints, Daniel
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Simply wonderful! Daniel
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I think you are doing all right :-) The overlap is difficult as the material is far to thick in scale. Some modelers use hand made plates with the rivets just on two sides in L-shape and not on all four sides, thus implementing the overlap. If you look at historic coppering, the overlap is almost not visible - as are the nails :-) Here a picture that wefalk shot at the HMS Garnet and showed here some time ago: http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/maritime/chatham/100220-72.jpg Cheers, Daniel
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I love Halloween, the kids used to run off in panic three blocks away ... ... perhaps I should have worn a costume with mask ;-) Thanks for the nice feedbacks, Daniel
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Love the bending tool! The grenades were in fact mere cannon balls, painted black. Good luck with your build, Daniel
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Thank you all! My pleasure - building and enjoying your comments :-) Very appreciated! Daniel
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