Chuck

Guys.....please quit with the metric vs. imperial bickering please.   It is what it is.....for Christs sake!!!!     Its like watching my kids argue about who would win in a fight......Superman or Batman........its beyond silliness and gets heated everytime.  I have deleted the last few posts because if read by anyone I can just see them shaking their heads...WOW!!!!!
 
Plus....we all know that after the alien invasion the entire world will have to convert over to fractenoids anyway!!!
 
 
Chuck

Guys.....please quit with the metric vs. imperial bickering please.   It is what it is.....for Christs sake!!!!     Its like watching my kids argue about who would win in a fight......Superman or Batman........its beyond silliness and gets heated everytime.  I have deleted the last few posts because if read by anyone I can just see them shaking their heads...WOW!!!!!
 
Plus....we all know that after the alien invasion the entire world will have to convert over to fractenoids anyway!!!
 
 
Chuck

Guys.....please quit with the metric vs. imperial bickering please.   It is what it is.....for Christs sake!!!!     Its like watching my kids argue about who would win in a fight......Superman or Batman........its beyond silliness and gets heated everytime.  I have deleted the last few posts because if read by anyone I can just see them shaking their heads...WOW!!!!!
 
Plus....we all know that after the alien invasion the entire world will have to convert over to fractenoids anyway!!!
 
 
Chuck

What a wonderful few days indeed......
 
Ben, Duff,  Rusty, Druxey, Ron, Mike, Ryland  and so many others from MSW...It was great to spend time with all of you and chat.   Now its time to start working on Next years Conference in San Diego   .   Get ready
 
Chuck

Guys.....please quit with the metric vs. imperial bickering please.   It is what it is.....for Christs sake!!!!     Its like watching my kids argue about who would win in a fight......Superman or Batman........its beyond silliness and gets heated everytime.  I have deleted the last few posts because if read by anyone I can just see them shaking their heads...WOW!!!!!
 
Plus....we all know that after the alien invasion the entire world will have to convert over to fractenoids anyway!!!
 
 
Chuck

Guys.....please quit with the metric vs. imperial bickering please.   It is what it is.....for Christs sake!!!!     Its like watching my kids argue about who would win in a fight......Superman or Batman........its beyond silliness and gets heated everytime.  I have deleted the last few posts because if read by anyone I can just see them shaking their heads...WOW!!!!!
 
Plus....we all know that after the alien invasion the entire world will have to convert over to fractenoids anyway!!!
 
 
Chuck

indeed I meant every word.  I enjoy the company.
 
As promised here are some step by step for making those pesky boom crutches.  Its important to start with an extra thick piece and cut the crutches out so the tail is extra wide also.
 
You will soon see why.
 
I find it easier to concentrate on one angle at a time.  To get these pieces positioned properly you must get the four angles done separately....one step at a time.
 
Start by filing the fashion piece flush with the cap rail.
 

 
Then viewing the boom crutch from the stern try and establish the correct first angle.  This would be the angle of the fashion piece along the transom as shown below in green.  You do this by filing the bottom of the crutch stem.
 

 
Then turn your attention to the angle when viewing the crutch from the side.  You are trying again to establish the fore/aft angle of the fashion piece as shown below.  This is why you made the crutch so much wider and cut it out of 1/4" thick boxwood.  Sand it to shape with a file.
 

 
Then.....we have to make the boom crutch face the lower mast.   On most models I see they are facing forward or even outboard.  This wouldnt serve its purpose to well.   The reason for making the stem of the crutch wider is so you can turn the crutch to face the mast.  Note how the fore edge of the crutch is flush with the fashion piece...BUT the aft corner hangs off the fashion piece.  Mark the aft side of the boom crutch as shown below and file this bevel into the outboard edge.  The round crutch remains untouched.  You are only beveling the stem.   Then also bevel the inboard edge of the stem to complete it.
 

 

 
Its at this stage where I glued it in position.   Then I filed and sanded it further to shape.  I filled the joint with wood filler and sanded it smooth so the crutch and fashion piece looked like one piece.  Thank God it is going to be painted black.  The last angle we should concern ourselves with is the angle of the top of the crutches when viewed at the side.  This is easier done while it is glued into position.
 
See the angles established in red so the crutches match the sheer or are at least level rather than slanting upwards.  This is important and the bottom of the crutch....inside the crutch should also be addressed and angled downward slightly or at least leveled off if need be.  Think about how the boom would REST in each crutch when establishing the angle inside the crutch.
 

 
When you are done....do it all over again on the other side and try very hard to get a matching pair.  Note how the stems are not very long and the crutches are so very close to the top of the transom.  If you hide the seam well and paint it the results are very convincing.  You will no doubt have many parts added to the waste pile as I did.  These are a bit tricky. 

Guys.....please quit with the metric vs. imperial bickering please.   It is what it is.....for Christs sake!!!!     Its like watching my kids argue about who would win in a fight......Superman or Batman........its beyond silliness and gets heated everytime.  I have deleted the last few posts because if read by anyone I can just see them shaking their heads...WOW!!!!!
 
Plus....we all know that after the alien invasion the entire world will have to convert over to fractenoids anyway!!!
 
 
Chuck

Thank you Frank for the kind words.  It was a pleasure meeting you as well.    Unfortunately when I got back from the conference I caught a bit of Bronchitis.  I havent been in the shop for five days now.  Its a slow recovery.  But I hope to get back in there tomorrow.
 
Chuck

indeed I meant every word.  I enjoy the company.
 
As promised here are some step by step for making those pesky boom crutches.  Its important to start with an extra thick piece and cut the crutches out so the tail is extra wide also.
 
You will soon see why.
 
I find it easier to concentrate on one angle at a time.  To get these pieces positioned properly you must get the four angles done separately....one step at a time.
 
Start by filing the fashion piece flush with the cap rail.
 

 
Then viewing the boom crutch from the stern try and establish the correct first angle.  This would be the angle of the fashion piece along the transom as shown below in green.  You do this by filing the bottom of the crutch stem.
 

 
Then turn your attention to the angle when viewing the crutch from the side.  You are trying again to establish the fore/aft angle of the fashion piece as shown below.  This is why you made the crutch so much wider and cut it out of 1/4" thick boxwood.  Sand it to shape with a file.
 

 
Then.....we have to make the boom crutch face the lower mast.   On most models I see they are facing forward or even outboard.  This wouldnt serve its purpose to well.   The reason for making the stem of the crutch wider is so you can turn the crutch to face the mast.  Note how the fore edge of the crutch is flush with the fashion piece...BUT the aft corner hangs off the fashion piece.  Mark the aft side of the boom crutch as shown below and file this bevel into the outboard edge.  The round crutch remains untouched.  You are only beveling the stem.   Then also bevel the inboard edge of the stem to complete it.
 

 

 
Its at this stage where I glued it in position.   Then I filed and sanded it further to shape.  I filled the joint with wood filler and sanded it smooth so the crutch and fashion piece looked like one piece.  Thank God it is going to be painted black.  The last angle we should concern ourselves with is the angle of the top of the crutches when viewed at the side.  This is easier done while it is glued into position.
 
See the angles established in red so the crutches match the sheer or are at least level rather than slanting upwards.  This is important and the bottom of the crutch....inside the crutch should also be addressed and angled downward slightly or at least leveled off if need be.  Think about how the boom would REST in each crutch when establishing the angle inside the crutch.
 

 
When you are done....do it all over again on the other side and try very hard to get a matching pair.  Note how the stems are not very long and the crutches are so very close to the top of the transom.  If you hide the seam well and paint it the results are very convincing.  You will no doubt have many parts added to the waste pile as I did.  These are a bit tricky. 

It was definitely the Giants!!!

The NRG is excited to launch our latest program focusing on advancing the art of ship modeling through research.  The Ship Model Grant Program was developed to provide ship modelers of all levels easy access to fully developed modeling projects.  We are seeking NRG members who can develop a thoroughly researched set of plans and accompanying monograph for smaller vessels and projects.  The details of the Grant program are provided below.   After work has been completed for all of the materials, the NRG will print the plans and offer them to ship modeling community at large.  The accompanying monograph will be produced in electronic format and supplied as a CD along with the plans.
 

 
To kick off the program, the NRG has selected the first project.  This first NRG Monograph will contain the plans for a plank-on-bulkhead model of the Hudson River Sloop “First Effort” built in 1830 (pictured above).  We have selected this project to set a standard for the size and scope of the projects intended for Grant program.  If you are an NRG member who would like to work with the NRG to develop other projects like this, read the details below and submit a proposal.  Should you have any questions about the program please contact Chuck Passaro at cpassaro@verizon.net.  The NRG Grant Program rules and details can also be downloaded from our website.  Visit www.thenrg.org today.
 
The NRG Ship Model Project Grant Program
 
Request for Proposals: The Nautical Research Guild (NRG) is issuing a request for proposals for consideration of funding projects which advance the art of ship modeling through research.
 
Eligibility:  The Nautical Research Guild Grant Program is open to NRG members only.
 
Project Description:   The NRG will award $750 to $2500 for individual projects that provide original research and plans for small ship modeling projects.  In addition, up to 10% of each sale will be awarded for the exclusive rights to publish and sell the completed published work in either print or electronic format.  Grant amounts will be determined by the NRG Board of Directors based on the size and scope of the accepted proposal.  Finished monographs and plans will be offered and branded by the NRG and copyrights will be maintained by the NRG.  All credit will be given to the author.
Each project proposed must be model ship related with research obtained from primary or secondary sources. Projects are to be for scratch built/semi-scratch built models.  Monographs must contain a section on history and research as well as a “how-to” for the model builder.  The monograph must also be accompanied with a set of plans to allow building of the project, produced electronically with the intention of being printed by the NRG for sale.
 
Project Specifications:
Plank on bulkhead, plank on frame, and solid hull are all acceptable building methods.
 
Other building methods will be reviewed by the Board for appropriateness.
The recipient must include plans to build the model and a corresponding monograph of 70 to 100 pages depending on the scope of the subject matter, with bibliography of all sources used.
 
Preference will be given to smaller projects: For example small cutters, launches, brigs, sloops, tugs, cross section models, battle stations, dioramas etc.  The NRG is NOT looking for larger vessels such as frigates, ship of the line, battleships etc.
 
Projects should take the average builder between 3 to 8 months to complete.
 
Projects can be directed toward the beginner, intermediate or advanced ship
modelers.
 
The monograph must be delivered in MS word format and the plans delivered in PDF format.
 
Grant awards will be administered in installments with the dates and amounts of payment determined by the NRG, and final payment being made upon delivery and review of the project by the NRG Board.
 
The NRG reserves the right to stop further payments and advancement of the project upon assessing the author’s progress.
 
Failure to complete the project in a timely manner may result in the cancellation of the project by the Board without further payment.
 
All proposals must be sent to :  Nautical Research Guild, 237 S Lincoln St, Westmont, IL 60559 or by email to info@thenauticalresearchguild.org
 
Information Required at the Time of Submission:
 
Proposal must include applicant Name, Address, Phone and E-Mail address.
 
Project Abstract:  Applicants must submit an abstract of less than 200 words describing the proposed project, including what level of builder it will be directed towards. Identify how it will enhance the knowledge and skill of the model builder.
 
Approach: List all equipment and materials required to complete the project.
Milestone Schedule: An activity schedule should be submitted for the duration of your research for project delivery.  Starting with month one and concluding with the project delivery date.  Expect to give the Board frequent updates based on this schedule (i.e. monthly, quarterly etc.)  Grant projects must NOT take the applicant longer than 14 months to complete once accepted.
 
Cost Summary: Detail all costs to be incurred for the project up to its delivery, including but not limited to equipment purchases, materials, information technology needs and software, travel, and research.  Prepare your budget carefully and make it as detailed as possible. 

Guys
 
All I can say is that I am careful and slow to a fault.  Its tough to get stuff done this way.   But I do agree everyone should just slow down.  Its what I recommend  a lot of folks to do...
 
Anyway...back to Cheerful.
 
I was able after two attempts to shape the boom crutch and create a procedure for doing so.  The key was starting with a much thicker piece and making the boom crutch a bit over-sized to start.  I cut out the boom crutch on a piece of 1/4" thick boxwood and carefully adjusted for three angles.   When completed it will be just 1/8" wide to match the width of the fashion piece.  Now that the starboard side is complete I can do the other and take pictures at every step.  This is certainly one piece that needs slow and attentive care to the angles involved.  The boon crutch must be turned inboard slightly so the boom can actually sit in it.  This is tough because the fashion piece and the side of the hull goes in the opposite direction!!!   This one piece took me over four hours to produce, shape and paint to a finish I found acceptable.
 
A few careful reference marks and filing...then turn the piece inward and you are good to go!!!   I will have a step by step soon.  You can see the second boom crutch over-sized and ready to shape in one of the photos.  Note the tail is left long so the proper angles can be created while sanding it shorter.
 
Because the boom crutch was painted black it might be hard to see in these photos but essentially the boom crutch must match the angle of the fashion piece when viewed from the side and from astern in two planes while being turned to line up with the path of the boom (or the main mast).  All while hiding the seam between the two pieces...thank God it is supposed to be painted black.  
 

 

 

 

 

Shrouds are .021 black rope.....I prefer a dark brown however but ME didnt have any. 
 
from the instructions...
 
Rigging the shrouds…   The shrouds are seized to the mast in pairs. Seize the shroud around the masthead with .021 black rope. Then seize a deadeye on the bottom of each shroud so they are both an equal distance from the deadeyes on the chainplates. A lanyard will be rigged between both deadeyes as shown in the illustration.     ....also, when looking up this info I found my master word doc which I believe is un -edited by ME.  I have uploaded that to my pinned log topic.  Maybe it will clear up some wackyness from all the ME edits and changes over the years.

The NRG is excited to launch our latest program focusing on advancing the art of ship modeling through research.  The Ship Model Grant Program was developed to provide ship modelers of all levels easy access to fully developed modeling projects.  We are seeking NRG members who can develop a thoroughly researched set of plans and accompanying monograph for smaller vessels and projects.  The details of the Grant program are provided below.   After work has been completed for all of the materials, the NRG will print the plans and offer them to ship modeling community at large.  The accompanying monograph will be produced in electronic format and supplied as a CD along with the plans.
 

 
To kick off the program, the NRG has selected the first project.  This first NRG Monograph will contain the plans for a plank-on-bulkhead model of the Hudson River Sloop “First Effort” built in 1830 (pictured above).  We have selected this project to set a standard for the size and scope of the projects intended for Grant program.  If you are an NRG member who would like to work with the NRG to develop other projects like this, read the details below and submit a proposal.  Should you have any questions about the program please contact Chuck Passaro at cpassaro@verizon.net.  The NRG Grant Program rules and details can also be downloaded from our website.  Visit www.thenrg.org today.
 
The NRG Ship Model Project Grant Program
 
Request for Proposals: The Nautical Research Guild (NRG) is issuing a request for proposals for consideration of funding projects which advance the art of ship modeling through research.
 
Eligibility:  The Nautical Research Guild Grant Program is open to NRG members only.
 
Project Description:   The NRG will award $750 to $2500 for individual projects that provide original research and plans for small ship modeling projects.  In addition, up to 10% of each sale will be awarded for the exclusive rights to publish and sell the completed published work in either print or electronic format.  Grant amounts will be determined by the NRG Board of Directors based on the size and scope of the accepted proposal.  Finished monographs and plans will be offered and branded by the NRG and copyrights will be maintained by the NRG.  All credit will be given to the author.
Each project proposed must be model ship related with research obtained from primary or secondary sources. Projects are to be for scratch built/semi-scratch built models.  Monographs must contain a section on history and research as well as a “how-to” for the model builder.  The monograph must also be accompanied with a set of plans to allow building of the project, produced electronically with the intention of being printed by the NRG for sale.
 
Project Specifications:
Plank on bulkhead, plank on frame, and solid hull are all acceptable building methods.
 
Other building methods will be reviewed by the Board for appropriateness.
The recipient must include plans to build the model and a corresponding monograph of 70 to 100 pages depending on the scope of the subject matter, with bibliography of all sources used.
 
Preference will be given to smaller projects: For example small cutters, launches, brigs, sloops, tugs, cross section models, battle stations, dioramas etc.  The NRG is NOT looking for larger vessels such as frigates, ship of the line, battleships etc.
 
Projects should take the average builder between 3 to 8 months to complete.
 
Projects can be directed toward the beginner, intermediate or advanced ship
modelers.
 
The monograph must be delivered in MS word format and the plans delivered in PDF format.
 
Grant awards will be administered in installments with the dates and amounts of payment determined by the NRG, and final payment being made upon delivery and review of the project by the NRG Board.
 
The NRG reserves the right to stop further payments and advancement of the project upon assessing the author’s progress.
 
Failure to complete the project in a timely manner may result in the cancellation of the project by the Board without further payment.
 
All proposals must be sent to :  Nautical Research Guild, 237 S Lincoln St, Westmont, IL 60559 or by email to info@thenauticalresearchguild.org
 
Information Required at the Time of Submission:
 
Proposal must include applicant Name, Address, Phone and E-Mail address.
 
Project Abstract:  Applicants must submit an abstract of less than 200 words describing the proposed project, including what level of builder it will be directed towards. Identify how it will enhance the knowledge and skill of the model builder.
 
Approach: List all equipment and materials required to complete the project.
Milestone Schedule: An activity schedule should be submitted for the duration of your research for project delivery.  Starting with month one and concluding with the project delivery date.  Expect to give the Board frequent updates based on this schedule (i.e. monthly, quarterly etc.)  Grant projects must NOT take the applicant longer than 14 months to complete once accepted.
 
Cost Summary: Detail all costs to be incurred for the project up to its delivery, including but not limited to equipment purchases, materials, information technology needs and software, travel, and research.  Prepare your budget carefully and make it as detailed as possible. 

The NRG is excited to launch our latest program focusing on advancing the art of ship modeling through research.  The Ship Model Grant Program was developed to provide ship modelers of all levels easy access to fully developed modeling projects.  We are seeking NRG members who can develop a thoroughly researched set of plans and accompanying monograph for smaller vessels and projects.  The details of the Grant program are provided below.   After work has been completed for all of the materials, the NRG will print the plans and offer them to ship modeling community at large.  The accompanying monograph will be produced in electronic format and supplied as a CD along with the plans.
 

 
To kick off the program, the NRG has selected the first project.  This first NRG Monograph will contain the plans for a plank-on-bulkhead model of the Hudson River Sloop “First Effort” built in 1830 (pictured above).  We have selected this project to set a standard for the size and scope of the projects intended for Grant program.  If you are an NRG member who would like to work with the NRG to develop other projects like this, read the details below and submit a proposal.  Should you have any questions about the program please contact Chuck Passaro at cpassaro@verizon.net.  The NRG Grant Program rules and details can also be downloaded from our website.  Visit www.thenrg.org today.
 
The NRG Ship Model Project Grant Program
 
Request for Proposals: The Nautical Research Guild (NRG) is issuing a request for proposals for consideration of funding projects which advance the art of ship modeling through research.
 
Eligibility:  The Nautical Research Guild Grant Program is open to NRG members only.
 
Project Description:   The NRG will award $750 to $2500 for individual projects that provide original research and plans for small ship modeling projects.  In addition, up to 10% of each sale will be awarded for the exclusive rights to publish and sell the completed published work in either print or electronic format.  Grant amounts will be determined by the NRG Board of Directors based on the size and scope of the accepted proposal.  Finished monographs and plans will be offered and branded by the NRG and copyrights will be maintained by the NRG.  All credit will be given to the author.
Each project proposed must be model ship related with research obtained from primary or secondary sources. Projects are to be for scratch built/semi-scratch built models.  Monographs must contain a section on history and research as well as a “how-to” for the model builder.  The monograph must also be accompanied with a set of plans to allow building of the project, produced electronically with the intention of being printed by the NRG for sale.
 
Project Specifications:
Plank on bulkhead, plank on frame, and solid hull are all acceptable building methods.
 
Other building methods will be reviewed by the Board for appropriateness.
The recipient must include plans to build the model and a corresponding monograph of 70 to 100 pages depending on the scope of the subject matter, with bibliography of all sources used.
 
Preference will be given to smaller projects: For example small cutters, launches, brigs, sloops, tugs, cross section models, battle stations, dioramas etc.  The NRG is NOT looking for larger vessels such as frigates, ship of the line, battleships etc.
 
Projects should take the average builder between 3 to 8 months to complete.
 
Projects can be directed toward the beginner, intermediate or advanced ship
modelers.
 
The monograph must be delivered in MS word format and the plans delivered in PDF format.
 
Grant awards will be administered in installments with the dates and amounts of payment determined by the NRG, and final payment being made upon delivery and review of the project by the NRG Board.
 
The NRG reserves the right to stop further payments and advancement of the project upon assessing the author’s progress.
 
Failure to complete the project in a timely manner may result in the cancellation of the project by the Board without further payment.
 
All proposals must be sent to :  Nautical Research Guild, 237 S Lincoln St, Westmont, IL 60559 or by email to info@thenauticalresearchguild.org
 
Information Required at the Time of Submission:
 
Proposal must include applicant Name, Address, Phone and E-Mail address.
 
Project Abstract:  Applicants must submit an abstract of less than 200 words describing the proposed project, including what level of builder it will be directed towards. Identify how it will enhance the knowledge and skill of the model builder.
 
Approach: List all equipment and materials required to complete the project.
Milestone Schedule: An activity schedule should be submitted for the duration of your research for project delivery.  Starting with month one and concluding with the project delivery date.  Expect to give the Board frequent updates based on this schedule (i.e. monthly, quarterly etc.)  Grant projects must NOT take the applicant longer than 14 months to complete once accepted.
 
Cost Summary: Detail all costs to be incurred for the project up to its delivery, including but not limited to equipment purchases, materials, information technology needs and software, travel, and research.  Prepare your budget carefully and make it as detailed as possible. 

Well as you know the Washington has been released.  The First effort project is being wrapped up slowly.  We are hoping for a launch early next year....In addition there are a few new projects being mulled over as well.
 
Chuck

It doent look that bad at all.  I would take a bit more off so the bend isnt as sharp where the plank tuck up into the lower counter..
 
See these pics if it helps.  Couldnt find any of the stern unpainted.
 
Chuck
 

 

 

It was definitely the Giants!!!

Beautiful work Brian!!!!!!   
 
Really outstanding.  

It was definitely the Giants!!!

I came down with the same thing.  I originally blamed it on the chill I got during the NY Giants game (but hey, we won so it's OK), but now I'm thinking I got it from talking to you!
 
Get well soon.

Shrouds are .021 black rope.....I prefer a dark brown however but ME didnt have any. 
 
from the instructions...
 
Rigging the shrouds…   The shrouds are seized to the mast in pairs. Seize the shroud around the masthead with .021 black rope. Then seize a deadeye on the bottom of each shroud so they are both an equal distance from the deadeyes on the chainplates. A lanyard will be rigged between both deadeyes as shown in the illustration.     ....also, when looking up this info I found my master word doc which I believe is un -edited by ME.  I have uploaded that to my pinned log topic.  Maybe it will clear up some wackyness from all the ME edits and changes over the years.

Well as you know the Washington has been released.  The First effort project is being wrapped up slowly.  We are hoping for a launch early next year....In addition there are a few new projects being mulled over as well.
 
Chuck

Nope...we really dont have a timeline but I can tell you that the plans are all drafted and the model prototype is currently under construction.   If you are are a member of the guild,  we will be providing updates on teh status of these projects in the Journal and in the newsletter.  
 
But we arent finished announcing our new programs yet.   There is one more that we will be announcing very soon.  So stay tuned.   Greg Herbert is heading up teh other program so I will let him announce that one.   The Board is very excited and passionate about the new direction the Guild is going in.   Should anyone have a question,  dont hesitate to ask me.
 
Chuck