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Chuck got a reaction from Saburo in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Very nicely done.
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Chuck got a reaction from Canute in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Very nicely done.
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Chuck got a reaction from fatih79 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thank you very much!!!
I have started on the pumps today.
Basically I started with a 3/16" square and used the 7/10/7 ratio to convert it to an octagon. You can see how I carefully marked the blank and then filed the piece to shape. The end was drilled out afterwards.
I also laser cut the handle from 1/64" thick boxwood. The handle bracket was made from 3/32" thick stock. The bracket was tapered where it attaches to the pump tube. Then it was notched out with a fine file to make it look like a fork. The handle will fit into this. But first I must paint the pieces and then assemble them. Maybe tomorrow.
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from tlevine in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thank You very much. The pumps have been completed. You can see that I decided to paint them red. Most people leave them natural but I figured I would go all in with the painted look. The same is true for the pump handles and bracket. These were made of either wood or metal. Because most folks leave these natural I figured I would paint them black and make them look like metal. This is how they were treated on the contemporary model of Surly.
All of the pieces were painted before assembly. Then I used some heavy paper to make the reinforcing band. Those who have these plans will also notice that I have only used one band. Yet on the plans there are two. I have once again seen so many variations of elm tree pumps I figured I would show it both ways. Those building Cheerful can decide which they prefer.
1. transfer the 7/10/7 template lines to each side of the 3/16" square pump tube. Carefully file the tube to an Octagon using the lines as a guide. Drill and bore out the top of the tube to a depth of about 3/8". Carefully use a bit that will leave the pump tube walls not too heavy.
2. File and shape the bracket for the handle. The part that sits against the pump tube is tapered thinner so it fits on one facet of the octagon. Use a slotting needle file 1/32" thin or less to file the slot in the top to a forked shape. This will accept the handle.
3. Place a 1/16" x 1/16" strip in a dremel to round it off. Using an emery board this takes only a minute. This will become your pump spout. Drill a hole into the end before parting off a 5/64" long spout. Glue it to the pump tube. All pieces can be painted first.
4. Using some card stock strips wrap it around the tube as shown on the plan to simulate the metal reinforcement band. One ore two is fine. The top band should be carefully placed so the notch in the bracket accepts it at the the right height on the tube. So measure its location from the plan.
5. Glue the bracket into position.
6. Insert a length of 24 gauge black wire into the hole on the end of the handle. Like an eyebolt. Insert the end of this long wire into a pre-drilled hole in the bore of the pump tube. Adjust the length of the wire until the other pivot-hole in the handle site in the bracket nicely. The handle should be in the downward position to be correct.
7. Finally insert a small length of 28 gauge black wire into the bracket hole and through the handle to lock it in position. Snip it off on both sides so it stand proud of the bracket's surface just a little bit.
Now its time to start on the winch!!!
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Chuck got a reaction from Bobstrake in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
I just use a drop of glue....on both rear trucks. Nothing fancy. I dont pin them in position. If they ever come loose it woulnt be hard to re-position them.
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Chuck got a reaction from fatih79 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thanks Ken....maybe a future tech session at the club. But there really isnt much to say. Its done the same exact exact way that so many folks make them.
I just wrap the rope around a dowel. I try and use the smallest amount of white glue...just on the top of the coil.
Thats the real trick....try not to handle them too much and certainly less glue is better...watered down white glue. Otherwise the rope gets mashed and you stick to it and pull fuzz up from it. Keep your rope clean. Less handling is key with clean fingers.
Then I take one of the hanging coils and wrap it around the top tightly to form the handle....so-to-speak. Wrap it around the coil from the inside. Twice around does the trick.
By the way, none of the belaying pins are glued into position yet. These coils are just temporary placed on top of them at this point...I will eventually just pull them off and store them in a box until rigging begins.
Also its just a great idea to experiment and make them well ahead of time. You will need to use more than just one size. Test them out before rigging begins. Here are the five or six coils I will eventually hang on this rail. You need to use thicker rope sometimes...how does it effect the rope its hanging next to? How do you need to bend it so it hangs nicely in front of or in back of the coils next to it? Should I vary the length of the coils a bit so its not to uniform? Does it look too messy and hap-hazard? These are the questions I am pondering at the moment. I am just fumbling through it like everyone else. The rails will fill up quickly and it gets harder to make them look natural. Better to have a test run now rather than when you have all of that rigging.....shrouds....and backstays.....in the way. Its just too frustrating then. It becomes an after thought almost. Because such a large grouping of rope on these pin rails becomes an important focal point...its a good idea to spend more time on it rater than wait. Otherwise it will detract from all of the other hard work you did.
Take a lot of photos of your test run from various angles as well. Its a huge help. I am still fussin....these close-up photos are brutal. It often looks so much better just viewing the model first hand. The naked eye can never see this level of detail as shown in the macro shots.
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from fatih79 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Rope coils take two......I hate waiting for repair guys to show up so in the spirit of trying all things to show folks different looks. Here are some less then perfect deck coils. Not too much difference but maybe enough to make it presentable.
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Chuck got a reaction from aviaamator in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
The lines I have hanging are in much larger coils and may hang more naturally...I have images of hemp rope on ships looking like that. BUT having said that...rope coils made on deck and meant to be kept neat....well that may be different and why I thought to make them tighter and more circular.
Take a look at this. This is actually a training session in Maine on board a sailing ship. I believe they may have been handled differently but I agree the old rope may have been very stiff indeed. But who knows in the end. The only real way to make the coils on deck more natural would be to make them very sloppy as if a drunken sailor made them. If they coiled them like this fella it looks pretty plausible. And pretty easy to make a good circle of coils. I imagine the sailors got quite good at it very quickly.
vs. hanging
and my interpretation for comparison...
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from fatih79 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
The breech rope was made using a technique I saw on an actual contemporary model. The splice for the button of the Carronade was simulated.
As mentioned I am using Syren .035 light brown rope. All of my .035 size rope is four strands. I dont think it would look as nice otherwise. Four stranded rope just make it work nicely. But essentially, the entire breech rope is made to length....3" long. (addendum) After consideration I think the breech line should be no longer than 3". It looks a bit long in the photo. The eyebolts and rings were slipped on before the end was finished off. You can see that in the photos. The eyebolts were 28 gauge wire while the split rings were 24 gauge.
Then I used a sharp but wide awl to simulate the splice. It has to be large enough that the splice will fit over the button of the carronade or cannon. In the center of the breech rope I pushed the awl through so there were two strands on top and bottom. Hence the need for four stranded rope. Then I applied some watered down white glue and let it dry. Once dry the simulated splice stayed to shape.
I have seen many real splices attempted and they just look to big and out of scale. I couldnt pull that off convincingly. Even though this is a cheat, I think it looks better because it stays smaller.
I could have just gone with the usual wrapping once around the button of the carronade...but that is tough to do in my opinion. It wont stay in place and you must use glue so it wont come undone. This ends up pulling the finish off the barrel etc. In the end it just looks too sloppy for me. So I gave this a try. No glue is needed at all. It slips right on the button and wont come off. This allows you more control to set the other eyes into the brackets of the carriage and then place the whole thing on deck.
Hope that makes sense. I also stiffened the line with the watered down white glue before starting. Let it dry. I just find it easier to work with when its a bit stiffer. At least with the breech rope anyway. I started with about a 5" long piece of rope.
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from Ryland Craze in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Very nicely done.
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Chuck got a reaction from cog in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
I just use a drop of glue....on both rear trucks. Nothing fancy. I dont pin them in position. If they ever come loose it woulnt be hard to re-position them.
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Chuck got a reaction from Canute in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
I just use a drop of glue....on both rear trucks. Nothing fancy. I dont pin them in position. If they ever come loose it woulnt be hard to re-position them.
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Chuck got a reaction from fatih79 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thank You very much. The pumps have been completed. You can see that I decided to paint them red. Most people leave them natural but I figured I would go all in with the painted look. The same is true for the pump handles and bracket. These were made of either wood or metal. Because most folks leave these natural I figured I would paint them black and make them look like metal. This is how they were treated on the contemporary model of Surly.
All of the pieces were painted before assembly. Then I used some heavy paper to make the reinforcing band. Those who have these plans will also notice that I have only used one band. Yet on the plans there are two. I have once again seen so many variations of elm tree pumps I figured I would show it both ways. Those building Cheerful can decide which they prefer.
1. transfer the 7/10/7 template lines to each side of the 3/16" square pump tube. Carefully file the tube to an Octagon using the lines as a guide. Drill and bore out the top of the tube to a depth of about 3/8". Carefully use a bit that will leave the pump tube walls not too heavy.
2. File and shape the bracket for the handle. The part that sits against the pump tube is tapered thinner so it fits on one facet of the octagon. Use a slotting needle file 1/32" thin or less to file the slot in the top to a forked shape. This will accept the handle.
3. Place a 1/16" x 1/16" strip in a dremel to round it off. Using an emery board this takes only a minute. This will become your pump spout. Drill a hole into the end before parting off a 5/64" long spout. Glue it to the pump tube. All pieces can be painted first.
4. Using some card stock strips wrap it around the tube as shown on the plan to simulate the metal reinforcement band. One ore two is fine. The top band should be carefully placed so the notch in the bracket accepts it at the the right height on the tube. So measure its location from the plan.
5. Glue the bracket into position.
6. Insert a length of 24 gauge black wire into the hole on the end of the handle. Like an eyebolt. Insert the end of this long wire into a pre-drilled hole in the bore of the pump tube. Adjust the length of the wire until the other pivot-hole in the handle site in the bracket nicely. The handle should be in the downward position to be correct.
7. Finally insert a small length of 28 gauge black wire into the bracket hole and through the handle to lock it in position. Snip it off on both sides so it stand proud of the bracket's surface just a little bit.
Now its time to start on the winch!!!
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Chuck got a reaction from albert in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thank you very much!!!
I have started on the pumps today.
Basically I started with a 3/16" square and used the 7/10/7 ratio to convert it to an octagon. You can see how I carefully marked the blank and then filed the piece to shape. The end was drilled out afterwards.
I also laser cut the handle from 1/64" thick boxwood. The handle bracket was made from 3/32" thick stock. The bracket was tapered where it attaches to the pump tube. Then it was notched out with a fine file to make it look like a fork. The handle will fit into this. But first I must paint the pieces and then assemble them. Maybe tomorrow.
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from Bobstrake in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thanks Greg
The lathe is still packed up in a box. Whenever I think I need it, I am too lazy to set it up and read the instructions. Its faster and easier for me to just use the needle file and emery board. One of these days I will get around to unboxing that thing to try it out.
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Chuck reacted to Stuntflyer in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
My thoughts in making the gun carriages is to do as much as possible before assembly. I'm using Chuck's laser kit.
I wanted to come up with a way to make the round axle other than using hand tools. In the photo below, you can see where I slotted the axle to create a 90° shoulder. While in the drill press, 3/32" i.d. brass tubing was filed on the outside to get a sharp edge for cutting. As the brass tubing cuts into the axle the excess wood is parted away. The brass tubing needed a slight sharpening between cuts but the process was very quick.
I used the plan drawing glued to one of the side brackets to mark each hole location for drilling the holes for the eyebolts and pins. At each location a jig was used to hold the brackets in place while drilling. A few pins were installed as well.
I haven't forgotten about the three pin rails or some necessary weathering. I figure that I can work on that if the guns start to get too tedious.
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Chuck got a reaction from egkb in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thank You very much. The pumps have been completed. You can see that I decided to paint them red. Most people leave them natural but I figured I would go all in with the painted look. The same is true for the pump handles and bracket. These were made of either wood or metal. Because most folks leave these natural I figured I would paint them black and make them look like metal. This is how they were treated on the contemporary model of Surly.
All of the pieces were painted before assembly. Then I used some heavy paper to make the reinforcing band. Those who have these plans will also notice that I have only used one band. Yet on the plans there are two. I have once again seen so many variations of elm tree pumps I figured I would show it both ways. Those building Cheerful can decide which they prefer.
1. transfer the 7/10/7 template lines to each side of the 3/16" square pump tube. Carefully file the tube to an Octagon using the lines as a guide. Drill and bore out the top of the tube to a depth of about 3/8". Carefully use a bit that will leave the pump tube walls not too heavy.
2. File and shape the bracket for the handle. The part that sits against the pump tube is tapered thinner so it fits on one facet of the octagon. Use a slotting needle file 1/32" thin or less to file the slot in the top to a forked shape. This will accept the handle.
3. Place a 1/16" x 1/16" strip in a dremel to round it off. Using an emery board this takes only a minute. This will become your pump spout. Drill a hole into the end before parting off a 5/64" long spout. Glue it to the pump tube. All pieces can be painted first.
4. Using some card stock strips wrap it around the tube as shown on the plan to simulate the metal reinforcement band. One ore two is fine. The top band should be carefully placed so the notch in the bracket accepts it at the the right height on the tube. So measure its location from the plan.
5. Glue the bracket into position.
6. Insert a length of 24 gauge black wire into the hole on the end of the handle. Like an eyebolt. Insert the end of this long wire into a pre-drilled hole in the bore of the pump tube. Adjust the length of the wire until the other pivot-hole in the handle site in the bracket nicely. The handle should be in the downward position to be correct.
7. Finally insert a small length of 28 gauge black wire into the bracket hole and through the handle to lock it in position. Snip it off on both sides so it stand proud of the bracket's surface just a little bit.
Now its time to start on the winch!!!
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Chuck got a reaction from Mirabell61 in English Pinnace by BRiddoch - scale 1/2" = 1'
Here is a photo of my 1/4" and 1/2" version of the pinnace. I have highlighted in blue on the smaller version to show the slight subtle "s" shape at the bow. This is done to keep the caprail relatively flat at the stem.
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from albert in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thank You very much. The pumps have been completed. You can see that I decided to paint them red. Most people leave them natural but I figured I would go all in with the painted look. The same is true for the pump handles and bracket. These were made of either wood or metal. Because most folks leave these natural I figured I would paint them black and make them look like metal. This is how they were treated on the contemporary model of Surly.
All of the pieces were painted before assembly. Then I used some heavy paper to make the reinforcing band. Those who have these plans will also notice that I have only used one band. Yet on the plans there are two. I have once again seen so many variations of elm tree pumps I figured I would show it both ways. Those building Cheerful can decide which they prefer.
1. transfer the 7/10/7 template lines to each side of the 3/16" square pump tube. Carefully file the tube to an Octagon using the lines as a guide. Drill and bore out the top of the tube to a depth of about 3/8". Carefully use a bit that will leave the pump tube walls not too heavy.
2. File and shape the bracket for the handle. The part that sits against the pump tube is tapered thinner so it fits on one facet of the octagon. Use a slotting needle file 1/32" thin or less to file the slot in the top to a forked shape. This will accept the handle.
3. Place a 1/16" x 1/16" strip in a dremel to round it off. Using an emery board this takes only a minute. This will become your pump spout. Drill a hole into the end before parting off a 5/64" long spout. Glue it to the pump tube. All pieces can be painted first.
4. Using some card stock strips wrap it around the tube as shown on the plan to simulate the metal reinforcement band. One ore two is fine. The top band should be carefully placed so the notch in the bracket accepts it at the the right height on the tube. So measure its location from the plan.
5. Glue the bracket into position.
6. Insert a length of 24 gauge black wire into the hole on the end of the handle. Like an eyebolt. Insert the end of this long wire into a pre-drilled hole in the bore of the pump tube. Adjust the length of the wire until the other pivot-hole in the handle site in the bracket nicely. The handle should be in the downward position to be correct.
7. Finally insert a small length of 28 gauge black wire into the bracket hole and through the handle to lock it in position. Snip it off on both sides so it stand proud of the bracket's surface just a little bit.
Now its time to start on the winch!!!
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Chuck got a reaction from KenW in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
No I dont bother with that. The split is really tight. You cant really see the seam so I dont bother with that. I never apply so much tension on them that they would open up.
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from canoe21 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thank You very much. The pumps have been completed. You can see that I decided to paint them red. Most people leave them natural but I figured I would go all in with the painted look. The same is true for the pump handles and bracket. These were made of either wood or metal. Because most folks leave these natural I figured I would paint them black and make them look like metal. This is how they were treated on the contemporary model of Surly.
All of the pieces were painted before assembly. Then I used some heavy paper to make the reinforcing band. Those who have these plans will also notice that I have only used one band. Yet on the plans there are two. I have once again seen so many variations of elm tree pumps I figured I would show it both ways. Those building Cheerful can decide which they prefer.
1. transfer the 7/10/7 template lines to each side of the 3/16" square pump tube. Carefully file the tube to an Octagon using the lines as a guide. Drill and bore out the top of the tube to a depth of about 3/8". Carefully use a bit that will leave the pump tube walls not too heavy.
2. File and shape the bracket for the handle. The part that sits against the pump tube is tapered thinner so it fits on one facet of the octagon. Use a slotting needle file 1/32" thin or less to file the slot in the top to a forked shape. This will accept the handle.
3. Place a 1/16" x 1/16" strip in a dremel to round it off. Using an emery board this takes only a minute. This will become your pump spout. Drill a hole into the end before parting off a 5/64" long spout. Glue it to the pump tube. All pieces can be painted first.
4. Using some card stock strips wrap it around the tube as shown on the plan to simulate the metal reinforcement band. One ore two is fine. The top band should be carefully placed so the notch in the bracket accepts it at the the right height on the tube. So measure its location from the plan.
5. Glue the bracket into position.
6. Insert a length of 24 gauge black wire into the hole on the end of the handle. Like an eyebolt. Insert the end of this long wire into a pre-drilled hole in the bore of the pump tube. Adjust the length of the wire until the other pivot-hole in the handle site in the bracket nicely. The handle should be in the downward position to be correct.
7. Finally insert a small length of 28 gauge black wire into the bracket hole and through the handle to lock it in position. Snip it off on both sides so it stand proud of the bracket's surface just a little bit.
Now its time to start on the winch!!!
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Chuck got a reaction from mtaylor in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
No I dont bother with that. The split is really tight. You cant really see the seam so I dont bother with that. I never apply so much tension on them that they would open up.
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from Canute in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
No I dont bother with that. The split is really tight. You cant really see the seam so I dont bother with that. I never apply so much tension on them that they would open up.
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from GLakie in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
No I dont bother with that. The split is really tight. You cant really see the seam so I dont bother with that. I never apply so much tension on them that they would open up.
Chuck
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Chuck got a reaction from Bobstrake in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Chuck - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - kit prototype
Thank You very much. The pumps have been completed. You can see that I decided to paint them red. Most people leave them natural but I figured I would go all in with the painted look. The same is true for the pump handles and bracket. These were made of either wood or metal. Because most folks leave these natural I figured I would paint them black and make them look like metal. This is how they were treated on the contemporary model of Surly.
All of the pieces were painted before assembly. Then I used some heavy paper to make the reinforcing band. Those who have these plans will also notice that I have only used one band. Yet on the plans there are two. I have once again seen so many variations of elm tree pumps I figured I would show it both ways. Those building Cheerful can decide which they prefer.
1. transfer the 7/10/7 template lines to each side of the 3/16" square pump tube. Carefully file the tube to an Octagon using the lines as a guide. Drill and bore out the top of the tube to a depth of about 3/8". Carefully use a bit that will leave the pump tube walls not too heavy.
2. File and shape the bracket for the handle. The part that sits against the pump tube is tapered thinner so it fits on one facet of the octagon. Use a slotting needle file 1/32" thin or less to file the slot in the top to a forked shape. This will accept the handle.
3. Place a 1/16" x 1/16" strip in a dremel to round it off. Using an emery board this takes only a minute. This will become your pump spout. Drill a hole into the end before parting off a 5/64" long spout. Glue it to the pump tube. All pieces can be painted first.
4. Using some card stock strips wrap it around the tube as shown on the plan to simulate the metal reinforcement band. One ore two is fine. The top band should be carefully placed so the notch in the bracket accepts it at the the right height on the tube. So measure its location from the plan.
5. Glue the bracket into position.
6. Insert a length of 24 gauge black wire into the hole on the end of the handle. Like an eyebolt. Insert the end of this long wire into a pre-drilled hole in the bore of the pump tube. Adjust the length of the wire until the other pivot-hole in the handle site in the bracket nicely. The handle should be in the downward position to be correct.
7. Finally insert a small length of 28 gauge black wire into the bracket hole and through the handle to lock it in position. Snip it off on both sides so it stand proud of the bracket's surface just a little bit.
Now its time to start on the winch!!!