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Dave there are lines and blocks on the drawing....what more do you want? Seriously they do look rather spare. Understanding the functions of the various lines and how they are used is invaluable for setting up the rigging on any ship or boat. The early ships of era that you are modeling must have been rigged in similar ways to the later rigs. is it possible to take the information from the more modern rigs and extrapolate backwards to the paintings and artwork of the ship? Michael
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Denis thanks for the tips on painting, The colder weather here is an issue to deal with for sure. I have to work hard to keep the temperature even-ish in the shop during these colder months, I use a wood stove to keep the shop warm and that is the main reason that I chose to keep the model in the house. I just finished lighting the wood stove which heats up the floor via a heat exchanger that keep the glycol in the loops warm.I monitor a number of parameters throughout the day. for instance this morning at 8:45am inside temp 5c outside temp -5c glycol out to floor 50f glycol back to tank 45f weather overcast By mid day the glycol is up to 60 -65 out and 55-60 back in and the shop gets up to 15-18c it is odd using both scales but the gauges are that way and it keeps me aware of the differences. I do this a few times per day I knew that the fluctuation would not be good for the model so that is the reason for setting up the spare room as a clean room for the model. Frankly it is a lot more comfortable. when the temp gets to the lower extremes of -25 to -30c then I have to keep the fire lit all the time makes for short sleeps. I too keep the liquids paint etc in the house over the winter. Michael
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Hello Les I think a good number of us go through periods of low motivation on our projects. The rest or change of pace or subject matter can be so refreshing. The intensity of what we do sometimes can feel like too much, The most important thing in my view is not to beat yourself up over it. The work most of us do is a hobby and it is meant to be enjoyable and relaxing, if it not either then do take a break. The inspiration to get back will come soon enough. Michael
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Carl I am practicing on some scrap metal... it just happens to look like a funnel michael
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It is one of these the unit on the left is the hot air soldering handle mine came with three nozzles 1/2 inch 1/4 inch and 3/16ths The air can be dialed from very low to quite high over a scale of 1-8 the temperature can be adjusted in 1 degree increments from 100c to 480c This temp range also applies to the soldering Iron side on the right hand side this is the unit that I purchased. Michael
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Druxey, the thing is I knew this! I have done a great deal of painting on the Architectural models, and with a great variety of colors textures and finishes both gloss and flat. but it has been about 20 years since I did all that. I'm going to put it down to a memory lapse, or its November and it's getting cold. Wefalck doing that would send me to the funny farm. Basically how I used to do it, I also used to cut some enamel with Lacquer thinner it dried faster as well. I had not given the baking any thought, but would certainly be worth doing some experiments with it. I did build myself a small turntable for the funnels, the key is getting the paint filtered as well "Ladies Hose" works very well for this. Michael
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A recent tool acquisition and remembering Chuck's tutorial on planking, and Druxey's question regarding the hot air soldering station for bending wood. I can say that the tool works brilliantly for this task. The photograph shows a strip of hard maple .041" x .125" using the middle sized nozzle 1/4 inch diameter and using the highest temp setting the strip became very pliable in seconds The other strip is .o41" x .2" Castello and it was the same in seconds it became very flexible and bent very easily. Obviously there are all sorts of other tests that can be done at varying temps etc but I have a feeling that this tool will be a very useful one in the tool kit from now on. Thanks again to Wefalck for putting me onto this tool. Michael
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Kevin, I like your attitude and the clarity of your videos, thanks for doing these. Michael
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Nils thanks. Don I see that you jest, seriously though I am not at all confident that I could do that. Now the soldering station seem substantial with a replacement element for the hot air gun and all looks good out of the box. I stretched a piece of wire to do the obligatory test of coloring it with the hot air The sound of the fire alarm right above my head just about caused me a heart attack,.... the cat shot out of the room like a rocket. The heating test was stopped whilst I found a chair to stand on to turn off the offending sound. Decided to go out and put the top coat over this..... I am going to have to get some filters, the primer coat looked brutal. Now for your communal entertainment and afternoon chuckle. I need some practice with the airbrush...it's been a while and I am definitely rusty with the right settings and thinness of the paint. It was much too thin and ran down so I turned it upside down to dry, when it is dry I will remove all the paint and start over with the method that Ed described and after getting some filters with paint it again Now I'm going to go and sit and think about all this while I have some lunch. Michael
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Why didn't I think of this.... A great suggesting Ed Yup! I have already given the test funnel a coat of Zinc Chromate, left it overnight as per the recommendations for the Poly scale paint that I used. That said it is a test funnel to sort out just this sort of procedure, so I will use the method Ed suggested after seeing how this first test works out. I have done a lot of masking on Commercial Architectural models over the years mostly using various types of tapes. The standard procedure was to paint, mask repaint with same color to seal the edge then apply the new colour. then to remove the paint befor the paint fully hardened. This particular restoration is new territory hence my caution and the various tests to get as close as possible to the original. The interesting thing is I am constantly reminded of an early comment about discovering the hidden damage, I think that more challenging than that even, is discovering the earlier repairs (not always as good as I would have preferred) that I have to work around. And today I get to go pick up my hot air soldering station from the post office. Thanks for the intro to this tool Wefalck. And Yes I will also test it to see if it works well for bending wood Druxey. Not sure you want to do that Jud, I managed to blow a straight eight engine in a 1948 Pontiac 4 door sedan after too long in a parade, the engine overheated so I pulled out dealt with the radiator but was unaware that the oil had also been compromised by the event, ten miles down the highway was all she wrote. The bottom end racket that occurred was enough to scare the coyotes for miles around. It cost a LOT of money to rebuild. Thank to all who have been following along and for those who have done some recent catch ups I really appreciate the interest and the helpful suggestions. Jack I used some gel type non toxic paint stripper on the side, it took a while with toothbrushes and multiple coats but did a good job. Michael
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Sorry to hear that you are a little under the weather. the winches are looking very nice. Michael
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Mike, your work on this ship is really first class, the mast and hoops look very nice. Michael
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Ed thank you for the great step by step of the banding process. Michael
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Thanks for all the likes and helpful feedback. I soldered up a piece of copper and brass to mimic the funnel bands, it was tricky getting the section close. I think Bassett & Lowke used a profile tool and cut some rings which were slid over the tube. I did a composite soldering job, by first soldering a flat strip then adding the half round profile which was made from some .032" that was draw filed to the half round section. The back side is a bit ugly it is a little smaller but cleaned up is will be adequate for the paint test. Michael
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Being a little hurried I peeled off the mask from the hinge section the Humbrol had only been on for 1 3/4 hours. slopped on with a flat brush. My first impression is that the mask peeled off very nicely, the edge looks jagged from the fillet of paint that is left standing. the paint is still soft. it was uneven in thickness from the single coat of paint, at the surface of the brass the line is absolutely sharp. When I watched some of the masking videos that are available I noticed that the completely dry paint left a clean edge when it was airbrushed over the mask. The model paint has a very fine pigment grind and requires much less paint than the commercial paint for painting larger materials. Also I did not thin the paint at all just thick straight out of the tin. when this is airbrushed it will be far better. The Humbrol instructions claim 6 hours between coats of paint. Encouraged by these first tests I an going to do an experiment on some brass tube of similar diameter with a strip of brass soldered around, I will follow the exact procedures that I hope to follow on the ship's funnel. I will also allow the proper times for drying and repainting. Michael
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Druxey, this had occurred to me, I intuitively rejected the idea when it crossed my mind. This morning I revisited the idea because of your suggestion. No matter how gently I scraped the patina came away as well. I was even able to remove only the top layer of paint in a couple of places as you can see by the zinc chromate traces. I think that there are definitely situations where this would work as a viable option. I do not want to risk removing the patina on the funnels though. This next picture shows the cut edge more clearly on the "No Sew" mask. it is very clean, although the "mask is flexible it is more plastic like than rubbery. The gap knifed out is .020" and it peeled out very nicely. When the paint is dry on the brass hinge test piece I will see how it looks at the edge between the rounded and flat sections which will give me a reasonable expectation of how it will look on the funnel. Carl thanks for the suggestion of the other mask solutions. the Windsor & Newton is a latex type similar to the Pebeo which I have and it peeled off the brass in a rubbery way similar to rubber cement which I have also tried. they work great on watercolour paper, and have used them successfully for that purpose. Michael
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I think I have found a rather unlikely candidate to use as a masking fluid that can be easily knifed. I worked on a hunch that this stuff might work well so using a toothpick I created a ring around a scrap of brass, then brushed on some Zinc Chromate primer, them gave it a couple of coats of sand(close color) but while waiting for this to dry I noticed that the blob that was left on the Plexiglas scrap had dried to a nice thick clear sheet like area. I wondered how well it would cut and peel. It cut off very smoothly, so I am going to follow this up with a further test. The piece of brass is a section of the hinge material that I used to make some hinges for the cutter. I used a toothpick to smear some along the edge and when it is dry I will see how well it cuts along the edge of the rounded section. I did use some liquid frisket for a first test but it peeled away when I started to knife it. so perhaps this will be a lucky discovery. I did peel off the glue from the brass tube I did not knife this but the results are definitely promising. Michael
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That is an interesting idea Ron. My only concern with doing that is the issue of making the bands brass colored, I have not seen a good representation of brass in paint yet. The bands do need to be brass in order to match the original finish. I do agree that it would definitely be a lot easier to do. Michael
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michael mott replied to bluenose2's topic in Metal Work, Soldering and Metal Fittings
Hi Les, it is a 20 foot yawl see here Michael -
Jack thanks for reminding me about this type of product, I will pick up something comparable here today for the side of the metal section below the boat deck. I popped the funnel into a large glass jar and filled it with lacquer thinner, left it for a couple of hours with the lid on out in the shop, it peeled off the paint very nicely. Now of course I have to mask off the fine brass bands.... I think that liquid mask is going to be the way forward. Michael
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michael mott replied to bluenose2's topic in Metal Work, Soldering and Metal Fittings
Hi Les Regarding your question about the copper sheathing or plate to prevent chafing, here is a picture of the copper plate on my mast. The color varies from the area above where the boom jaws do not rub to where they do. I would suspect that at the area where the gaff jaws are positioned most of the time that the area underneath would be shiny from the constant motion to port and starboard as the boat is under way. I hope this helps to answer your question. Michael
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