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This may be a stupid addition to the discussion, but it is noticeable that the warp is to the laser-cut side. Would there be a possibility that the extensive small longitudinal grooving caused by the laser cut creates a weakness that would tend to bend the wood that way, in addition to any natural tendency? And might that be prevented if the piece were to be held on a curved surface as soon as it was received (too late for that, of course!)? Tony
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Running Rigging _ Running in Circles....
tkay11 replied to USNCHief's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Petersson's books, for all their faults, are good in isolating sections of the rigging so that you can get a good idea of positioning, belaying and function for each type. Tony -
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tkay11 replied to ccoyle's topic in Card and Paper Models
@dancooper: Thanks for the link. Very interesting. Note that the link doesn't make it clear that the crucifix sundial is made of paper and based on the accompanying woodcut. All the same, I did a search and it is correctly described elsewhere on the web, e.g. at Paper modellers . I also read about his life which is found on the English Wikipedia, in case others are also interested. Tony -
HUGE card model gallery -- eye candy galore!
tkay11 replied to ccoyle's topic in Card and Paper Models
I wonder how far back using paper to make models goes. I suppose it could be from the time paper was invented. Would many of the architectural models have been made from card or paper in, say, the 16th Century? I used to make boats from folded paper to float on ponds in the 50s, after my father showed me how to do it. There would also be a variety of designs for such in comics and boys' books. However, I admit these were not based on any particular boat, so I don't think those would enter into the category of 'models'. Tony -
Process for 3D printing of carronade
tkay11 replied to tkay11's topic in 3D-Printing and Laser-Cutting.
@henrythestaffy: That looks perfect, Paul. I wonder if you think it would be worth it to make a little log of the stages through which you developed this? Of course, it may be something that I am just behind the curve and don't know what so many others now take for granted, but if you think there are others who might pick up some tips as to how you did this, then it might prove enlightening for some of us who have yet to catch up. In particular I would like to understand the process of converting photos and 2D drawings into 3D files for printing. So far I have only really used CAD for 2D planning. If you think this is all too basic, I'd be glad of some pointers on the web as to how to learn. I've seen some tutorials for Blender and Fusion, but the ones I have seen don't seem to cover this initial conversion. As with many others you have helped on this forum, I am very grateful, Thanks Tony -
Process for 3D printing of carronade
tkay11 replied to tkay11's topic in 3D-Printing and Laser-Cutting.
@henrythestaffy: Wow, Paul! That's simply astonishing! I had no idea you could do that from a photo. I'll PM you in case you're still willing to post the PST file. I suppose all I would then have to do is send that to be printed. Thanks very much indeed for spending time on this. I can begin to see the magic and usefulness of 3D printing. Tony -
Process for 3D printing of carronade
tkay11 replied to tkay11's topic in 3D-Printing and Laser-Cutting.
Very neat! Great ideas for the construction. Thanks! Tony -
Process for 3D printing of carronade
tkay11 replied to tkay11's topic in 3D-Printing and Laser-Cutting.
@Lieste: Thanks for that very detailed reply. I see that the accuracy would depend on the printer resolution. I attach a screenshot of the plans I am working on (traced from Boudriot's monograph of La Jacinthe) as well as a photo shown in that book of a model of a 12-pounder carronade of the same design. Do you think a FDM 3D printer could make a solid model of the entire carronade (perhaps without the supporting wooden blocks) at the scale dimensions I show in the screenshot? Although I have already separated components in the tracing for study purposes, I wouldn't attempt to have all the details of the revolving mechanism, just the curved base). @John Fox III: That's an intriguing idea, to make it from paper. Having seen your excellent work on Polaris I am not sure I would be able to match your skills (even at the larger scale I am working on)but am open to all suggestions. It would be really valuable to a lot of people if you could share your methods as you suggest. I can certainly see the sense of your making the carronades simpler in construction as at that scale trying to detail them further would make little sense. Thanks, Tony -
Process for 3D printing of carronade
tkay11 replied to tkay11's topic in 3D-Printing and Laser-Cutting.
@henrythestaffy: That's wonderfully generous of you, Paul, and I may well take you up on that. Before I do so, though, I want to be clear about the process of asking a 3D printing house how to generate the model at the correct size. Do I just specify the overall length, or is that something that should be done when generating the STL file? Thanks Tony -
I would like to obtain a 3D print of a carronade in the UK, but don't know how to go about it. It would have to be at 1:96 scale (13mm long, 3mm barrel). I don't think I have the skills to make such a complex object at this scale, although I certainly could have a go. I had a search through the fora for hints about going to 3D print shops but couldn't find anything, perhaps because I didn't search correctly. The idea is to find a UK supplier who would print out one of the carronade stl files that seem to be available for download. As I don't know whether you can specify sizes for printing or whether the files have a size embedded, it would be a great help if someone could offer me some advice as to how to specify such a 'thing' for printing. It would also help if a particular UK-based 3D printing shop could be suggested, and whether having just two copies of such a small object would be both cost-effective and accurate. With thanks for any suggestions or pearls of wisdom! Tony
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Even Kondzik resorted to putting wooden strips in small beams. See his card Allège d'Arles build. He also has some excellent tips on modelling in card. Tony
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18th and early 19th Century cutter models
tkay11 replied to tkay11's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Thanks, druxey. Of course the gunport idea was crazy for a sweep port (which I had used Marcus' term for) but just thought for a blindingly silly moment they might be ok to allow water to escape. So thanks for pointing this out! Tony- 42 replies
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18th and early 19th Century cutter models
tkay11 replied to tkay11's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Sorry, Marcus, all I can say is that these are contemporary models and some seem to show one or the other type or both, and others don't. Contemporary plans may show scuttles and/or oar-holes, and the NMM plans for the 1763 Cutter Endeavour do show oar holes but no scuttles. The NMM plans I have for the Sherbourne (an English cutter) don't seem to show either type, although the Caldercraft kit of the Sherbourne has oar holes. I don't know if oars would be redundant on some cutters as they could perhaps be pulled by their longboats. Perhaps the low gunports might be regarded as adequate to act as scuttles. Is this something that would be assumed by the builder or requested by the purchaser? I'll leave that for others who are far more knowledgeable to comment. Tony- 42 replies
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Kester had mentioned somewhere at the time that he was going to write a book. Glad it's surfaced, and thanks for bringing it to our attention! Tony
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Just FYI for anyone following: Sketchup Free cannot load Extensions, and so cannot action Unfold. The subscription Sketchup is £95 per year. Tony
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Thanks, Tomek. I've been wondering about how to use the simpler 3D programmes to unfold surfaces to a single plane. I'll start exploring! Tony
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Thanks, Tomek. Very impressive use of software and design. I hadn't thought of using a CAD programme as I had forgotten the sides of the boat, being card, are solid rather than fully planked. I asked because I am trying to build a 6 metre ship's boat at 1:96, and having difficulty in planking it properly. I was trying to think of other ways of doing it, including card. Do you think having a 3D CAD programme is more helpful than a 2D one in preparing such a model? I can see that it helps in visualising, but does it help in constructing it? Unfortunately Rhino is far too expensive for me, and I'd probably have to get a new graphics card as well. Although I think I have to stick to 2D for the while, I'd be very interested in your thoughts on the value of a 3D programme. Tony
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That's beautifully done, Tomek. I especially like the fact that you can show it with mast up or down. One question: How did you make that lovely little ship's boat Tony
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Sorry to have only just caught up with this build. These tartanes are lovely boats. I hadn't realised the Martegao was an allège as I just looked at the name when running through the posts. I can see you've done your research, but just in case you haven't seen the following, I'm putting some suggestions that I found useful in case others would like to research this area as well. There's a good monograph on the allèges by Ancre in English as well as French (both translations from the Italian) which covers their history and has lots of illustrations including some of those by Roux. It also has a set of plans which show the flags and stern coat of arms. What I found particularly interesting was the rigging of lateen sails, and in addition to the plentiful French sources, there's a nice video about traditional lateen sailing boats on YouTube which gave me a good understanding of how the main yard was set up. There are also a few builds of the card model of an allège on this forum (notably Kondzik's), as well as wooden from the ANCRE plans, and a beautiful miniature by Javier Baron, but these differ in some details from the Billings version. I look forward to the rest of the build. Have fun! Tony
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To firm up the cardboard, you can also soak the edges with cyanoacrylate glue. Tony
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Now that's a nice binnacle, George. Very nice. The one you're referring to was in my build of the Chaloupe Armée. The longboat needed a portable one but, as you say, although more experienced modellers made good suggestions, it was beyond my courage levels to undertake. In the end I realised someone may well have just carried a compass in a pocket. Tony
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@Alex M: All of the model photos I showed from my visit to Chatham were contemporary. The one you linked to wasn't one of them. Tony
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Sorry, @Alex M. Looking at my photos, if there was a mouse on the Hawke it was hidden by the sails. And I have no recollection of noticing one. An 1820 unnamed cutter clearly did not have one. But a cutter from 1763 did have one, as did the 1790 Trial. Of course, these were just contemporary models and just a tiny sample, which may not be definitive, but it seems the practice varied. Tony
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