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No problem Dave - answered in PM.

Lou,

Welcome to the group. If you PM me with your email address, I'll send you a copy of the materials list spreadsheet I worked up, plus a few additional aids. You will need to purchase your own set of plans/drawings, available through the Model Ship Builder (MSB) website: http://modelshipbuilder.com/page.php?135

Mike - ROFLMAO :P

Nice to see you back and making some progress Chris. It certainly is a steep learning curve, but persistence will get you there in the end. Your modification at the stern looks good.

Looking good Sjors. Should your sprit sails hang a little more vertically?

Mighty fine looking progress there Mark. And what Keith said - I'll second that, with thanks.

When you say 'slow', are you talking Mobbsie slow or normal folks slow ?????

Well, if Mobbbsie was concerned about the "Grant slow", it just got slower......

Tried cutting the rabbet tonight...............let's just say that more practice is required.........

Looks like I get to make a whole new keel all over again. At this rate, the scrap bin is going to be well fed!

I'll be back when I've got this keel and rabbet sorted. Less haste, more speed me thinks!

I'll be interested to follow along with this one Mark. Your full ship is a real beauty, so the cross section should be a piece of cake for you.

Beautiful attention to detail Danny!

Hey Marc,

Good on you for taking the plunge and ripping off what you weren't happy with. Making that decision was the hardest part - from here on it gets easier as there is no going back.

I look forward to seeing your modifications.

I've heard very good things about the Hegner saws Kevin.  I have an Excalibur saw, which I think cost around the same sort of money - it's a dream to use. Investing in quality tools is worthwhile - at least then there is only one source left to blame! And by the time you've finished your Triton cross section, you'll have saved enough money again for your Druid build and gained plenty of experience in the tool as well.  Happy Days!  

Beautifully executed Johann.

Thanks everyone for looking in and for the encouraging words as we step gingerly into the dark side. Welcome one and all - there's plenty of seats available and now that Mark and Sjors are both here, the bar is open and there's popcorn for everyone!

I did get the keel done today, with the exception of cutting the rabbet. No pics yet, but will post some as soon as I've cut the rabbet.

If anyone else wants to join in this little group build, you are more than welcome. We'll be going slow, so there's plenty of time to get caught up.

Hope the keyboard isn't now covered in coffee Mark!

Good to see the log up and running Mobbsie. Don't go doing too much "practice" now, or you'll end up like Rusty's infamous "set-up"!

Nice guns Augie

Your treenails look great David!

Great to see you "underway" in the shipyard again John.

Thanks Brian,

The red timber is RedHeart.  It will be used for the inner bulwarks.

This will be my first full scratch build. I have chosen the Bomb Vessel Granado Cross Section as an introduction to scratch building as it has all of the components of a scratch build while offering something a little bit ‘unusual’ at the same time. This build is also a ‘group’ build as my very good friend Mobbsie in the UK has agreed to do this in tandem with me, and to make it a truly international build, we are also joined by Jack Panzeca from Texas.  While we will all maintain individual build logs, we will progress at a common (slow) pace and will therefore be able to help each other through any tricky bits.

Plans are by Jeff Staudt, based on the drawings by Peter Goodwin in the Anatomy of the Ship series, and also original drawings by Thomas Slade.  The plans are available through the Model Ship Builder (MSB) forum.  Although this is my first scratch build, I have to say that the plans/drawings by Jeff look to be first class.

We will also be guided by the build logs of several skilled modellers who have trodden this path before us.  I would like to pay tribute here to the excellent logs of Rusty, whose log of his 1:24 scale build is available here at MSW, and also of Mike41, who built the prototype model over on MSB.

We will be using timber from Jeff Hayes at Hobbymill, and have chosen a selection of timbers that will allow us to “paint with wood”.  My thanks to Jeff for his patience and guidance in helping me to put together the final timbering package.  Of course, as you would expect, the timber from Jeff is just gorgeous.

Here’s a picture of the overall wood package:

And here is one showing more clearly some of the colours that we have available through these timbers:

On with the show:

Framing Jig

We decided to start by constructing the Framing Jig - mainly because Mobbsie “cheated” by making his up earlier while testing out his new toys.    It is fairly straight forward to make - the base is 12mm ply that I had lying around, while the top is 3mm “aircraft grade” birch plywood (also spare stock I had lying around). The two pieces were cut to size and then clamped together while 10mm holes were drilled to take the adjusting bolts.  The pattern for the jig was then printed on sticky label paper and applied to the top, and the inside cut out on the scroll saw. After cutting on the scroll saw, the frame notches were finessed to size with a file, using a piece of 1/4” stock (framing stock) to test for a comfortable fit. The top and bottom were then temporarily joined with the bolts and the centreline transferred from the top piece to the base.  The centreline was scribed into the base and then drawn over with a pencil.  Additional lines were drawn parallel to this 1/8” either side to aid in locating the keel/keel supports.  Lines were also drawn across the base board to denote the ends of the frames. In the following pictures, you may notice a partially completed Stephenson’s Rocket lurking in the background ……… 

Two battens were glued to the underside of the base board to allow for the height of the bolt heads and make the base a little more stable.

A block of MDF was cut to size from the plans to make adjusting the height of the top easier, and the top was then positioned and the bolts all secured.

So far, so good.  Tomorrow will be the first attempt at making the keel components and cutting the rabbet.

Wow, those last few photos are excellent Ed and really show off the detail of your superb craftsmanship.

I only "discovered" Gesso fairly recently and am absolutely sold on it! It's really easy to use, and clean up (bonus!), and gives great results. What more could you ask for?

Mark,

I think you're little sojourn into Classical architecture and geometric construction was a fascinating trip for all of us. Thank you for sharing this.

You're going to love that Byrnes machine Kevin. In six months you won't remember the price, but you'll still be in love with the machine!

Kevin,

On the pattern gluing question, one trick I picked up reading a scroll saw forum was to apply blue Painters tape to the wood first, then stick the pattern on top of that. The painters tape is low tack, so removal after cutting is easy and virtually no residue to clean up. You can buy the Painters tape in a variety of widths in you local hardware store. The glue you use for the pattern then doesn't matter. I prefer to print on sticky label paper, but some prefer a spray adhesive.

Hope this helps.