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2 hours ago, flyer said:
You could further consider a contemporary painting by Robert Dodd which probably depicts Pickle in the foreground on the right. There you see a vertically stepped foremast.
Looking forward to your build log!
Herzliche Grüsse
Peter
This painting is the best source for correct information about the appearance of Pickle. Dodd painted the battle with the guidance of Lt Lapenotiere who was in command of Pickle at the battle.
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4 hours ago, franzschmidb said:
Maybe I shall just build it as a "schooner early 19th century", name it Barbara or Lady Hammond or any other name of the Adonis class. Naming it Pickle seems to be too far from reality.
2 hours ago, allanyed said:Unless lines were taken when she was brought to England, there may be no existing plans.
I can jump in here with the results of a LOT of digging a few years ago: Pickle never had her lines taken off. All models are 'best guesses' and Adonis is my 'best guess' as to the source of the Caldercraft kit.
The good news is that there is a very well researched book that untangles the confusion arising from there being two craft of the same name on the books at the same time and gives a good account of Pickle and her captain, Lt. Lapenotiere. I tried and failed to find fault with his research and conclusions (me failing to find fault is uncommon... sigh.)
HMS Pickle: The Swiftest Ship in Nelson's Trafalgar Fleet by Peter Hore, published by The History Press.
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15 hours ago, druxey said:
Bruce: funnily enough I had wondered whether 'flodder' might be a variant form of 'flother', but the foam/flood idea made no sense on this context. All I could think of, in painters' language, was 'flogging' where a loose-haired brush is 'flogged' onto the painting surface for a decorative effect. Thank you for this additional reference and insight.
Me again. It is interesting that the term seems to refer to a specific pattern in some examples. In coachbuilding (see my comment in post #2) it covered the practice of painting a panel or area with a pattern/motif. The text below is closer to this usage.
HTH
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4 hours ago, NoelSmith said:
The late Gerald Wingrove had an association with Emco, and can remember some of his creations displayed on their Model Engineering Exhibition Stand.
EMCO commissioned Gerald to write a book on using the Unimat. He was a good advocate for the lathe and accessories and was brutally honest when discussing them.
I heard that Elliott either merged or was taken over but don't know the story.
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3 hours ago, NoelSmith said:
Did Emco, the parent company close down or just decide to axe the mini lathes and accessories?
Unimat was the Austrian maker, 'EMCO' (Elliot Machine Company) was the UK distributor. They had their own badges but there was no difference in the product. The names are now intermingled in use.
I love 'em, prefer the SL/DB over the Unimat 3 but that is just my point of view.
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I can help with 'flothered': it means the painted ornate fiddly bits. The term was still in use by coachbuilders up to 1900ish.
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Thanks Craig, you nailed it.
No surprise, just sad.
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This figure is for sale through a few traders on Alibaba. It is 1/24, resin and has no manufacturer's name: does anyone recognise it as a copy?
If so, who is the legitimate source please?
Thanks,
Bruce
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Hello Robert and welcome to MSW from Sussex.
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6 hours ago, CDW said:
Comparing the silver to the box art, it looks like the 1:1 car had some white mixed in with the silver. I'll experiment with some white mixed in with my silver to try and get a closer match.
If I recall correctly, a caption in a contemporary magazine described the car as 'Corvette silver'.
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Now that really takes me back. The kit was a great source for parts and served as an organ donor for a couple of my altereds and rails.
Good kit, mind if I watch?
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Welcome to MSW from the UK.
- mtaylor and Keith Black
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Welcome to MSW from the UK.
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Hello Jölle and a warm welcome from the UK.
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I'm wondering if the mystery items are for a specific task. I have read of a carpenter preparing a ship's boats used for anchor work or artillery transport and assumed it was fitting the needed items rather than making any permanent modifications. Having fruitlessly spent some time trying to find details of any of these modifications I concluded the shipwrights and carpenters were directed in some way that was not recorded. The one area where I know very specific arrangements were made was in preparing boats for launching Congreve rockets but alas, they do not appear to have survived.
FWIW, I will dig out a drawing I found showing the proposed method of outfitting a boat of that period with a slide for mounting an artillery piece. If memory serves it used rollers ... who knows if it fits but we'll see?
HTH,
Bruce
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Kinsale played a big role in the 17th and 18th centuries and built at least one RN frigate, HMS Kinsale.
According to this page HMS Kinsale was the only ship built there for the RN:
List of frigate classes of the Royal Navy - Wikipedia
Nothing I have found in The National Archives catalogue contradicts this. There was a lot of activity but it was almost exclusively maintenance and repairs. Ireland produced a lot of shipwrights for HM shipyards but I speculate that this was due to a healthy trade in merchant craft.
HTH,
Bruce
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It looks like Apollo has landed on his feet. He's a cutie!
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Update:
I'm chipping away at the frames as time allows, will post photos when I reach a natural break.
Also, work has begun on the fixture to hold work in progress for stern decorations.
The Society of Model Shipwrights is linked with MSW as a chapter club. A talk on building Berwick is now on their channel:
Bruce
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Reale De France by fmodajr - FINISHED - Corel - Scale 1:60
in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1501 - 1750
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Well done, that's a very impressive model.
Simply gorgeous.