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I was currently making the coamings and grille combs for the second deck, but then I took a look at where the main mast was positioned on the model. Looking at the plans, the main mast position looked a little too close to the edge of the deck. I then referened the book Anatomy Of The Ship The 100-Gun Ship Victory by John McKay. After some calculations, I realized how different the kit is to the real ship. The masts arent positioned correctly, the stairs are in the wrong spot, a ton of details are missing or looked over (this i more understand because it is a kit), ect ect ect. It was sorta a revelation as to how much detail and accuracy is missing from the kit. It made me question if I should modify the kit to correct the more obvious bigger differences or just leave them how the kit had it planned out. I havent decided what to do. I would be curious what others have done! Jeff

maaaslo, Thank you for the compliment!! That really makes me feel like I'm doing a good job and helps me want to do my best! Directing him to this forum was a great idea! This site has a LOT of helpful information. I just wish he had listened to you. Jeff

Over 12,000 treenails?! WOW! Thats a lot! Super impressive! I can see that doing them as yiu build the decks and hull is the better way becausr doing all those nails at once would be very tedious and monotonous. I will stick with how I'm doing them right now. I did notice that I will need to sand more on the edge planks because the deck slightly curves down and my deck doesn't currently do that.

I finished planking the deck! I also sanded and drew the treenails onto the boards. I think there is a better way to make the treenails though... After taking this pic, I noticed on the right side, that a few boards needed more sanding. So I sanded it down. I noticed in the instructions on this deck, you don't actually plank the inside of the hull. I wanted to see if that was noticeable so I cut out the next deck piece and placed it on. As you can see, its easy to see the inside part of the hull where the cannons will be placed. Even with the model finished, you will be able to see it. Of ALL the pictures (100+) in the instructions, they meticulously DON'T show a pic from this angle. So for me, I will plank the inside where the cannons are located. So, (I know this is early) I wanted to see where the cannons would be located. After reading Paul063's build log of the same kit, he said to place the gunports early and line them up to minimize the gun ports running into bulkheads. Yikes! That would stink since there are so many guns! So I took some wax paper and tapped it across the plans with the gunports and drew them and other things onto the paper. I then placed the wax paper ontop of the bulkhead plans: This is going to be super helpful when placeing the gunports! I see there will be a few that will overlap the bulkheads, but if I'm careful, I can mitigate others so they will miss them. I wanted to continue, but it was getting too late and I wanted another day to make sure I like the look of the deck before varnishing it. Also want more time to find a better way to make the treenails. Jeff

I found some time to work on the deck planking. Its sure taking a while, but I'm taking my time. I am not quite done yet though. I have a few more rows to plank, add the treenails, and sand/varnish it. But I am just happy to have more done on it! Jeff

Thanks Dan. I think I understand what you are saying. I'll be tearing up the deck and starting.. just kidding! I will take that into consideration during the next deck planking. I really do appreciate your advice and critisism as it will just make my modeling better. I looked at your pics and have a question. I noticed that some of your deck planking is curved. Im curiois why that is? Thanks! Jeff

Thanks a lot! Its taking a lot longer to plank this way for me, but I think its worth it. Here's what I have finished so far Whew! This is my first time planking so I am actually learning a lot doing it this way. I decided to plank like this the other decks too so they are consistant. I know the next decks I plank should benifit from my learning on this one. Jeff

I have definetly learned quite a bit already with this kit! Thanks guys for all yout help and comments! Jeff

Finally, a few updates! Been super busy with work with little time for Victory. I tried glueing the second deck piece on then I started to plank. I hated how it was looking: Not only that, but the base deck piece was warped and I couldnt seem to straighten it out. Yuck.... So, I made the executive decided to start all the way over again. I ripped up ALL of it, including the warpped base deck piece and removed as much glue as I could. This was super demoralizing for me because that was about a weeks worth of work for me. But I just couldn't live with myself if it looked that bad so it was better to try again. I then measured the height of the base deck piece and the thin deck planks. 2.5mm total. Then, I rummaged around in another kit I got but not built and I actually found 50 strips of very nice 5mm x 2.5mm basswood! It was the correct width and height. So, I started to use the strips really slowly. So i came across where the mast sticks out. Since i didnt have thr pre cut sheet anymore, I utilized the plans and some angle maths to determine the angle and where to place it. So I drilled the mast hole and planked the hole very carefully. The mast is straight as I took care with its measurements. I'm still at it, planking slowly but surely. It will need a small bit of sanding too. But I personnaly like this look better than the thin strips, so I'm having a good time putting this deck together. Thanks Dan for the advice about the black pen. Its working out really well!

Thank you guys for the kind words! It really helps me want to do my very best! I'm going to start planking the next deck starting today. Since most all of my waking hours are dedicated to either work or spending time with my son, it will take a bit of time. I'll keep updating as I progress! Jeff

Finally some updates! I finished the lowest deck planks and installed them. None of them are really very visible at all so it was the perfect test bed for me to figure out how I want to produce the next deck of planking. I also saw in the plans that a lot later, you need to drill out the bowsprit. I didnt like the fact that I would have to drill at an angle, through my varnished decking. Yuck! So, I decided to do that now. I do not have a drill press, so I made a small jig to temporarily glue onto the ship to guide my drill to the correct angle for thr bowsprit. I then drilled the hole. Afterwards, i cut out the hole that the bowsprit will pass through in the deck piece and glued it to the ship. I will plank this section later. I test fitted the bowsprit into position and made sure it was straight and at the correct angle when installed later. I decided not to plank this portion right now even though the instructions say to. This is because I still need to sand the hull down in a few steps to get ready to plank the hull, and I didn't want to sand it and risk scratching the front deck planking. Jeff

Thats actually what I'm doing . I will re make the small section I did using the pencile. But this time I will create a jig like Dan mentioned and see how they turn out. Thanks for the advice! Jeff

I have sanded down the 3 sections and have a pic of what all 3 techniques look like: Top left is pencile, top right uses paper, bottom is using the art pen brush that Dan recommended. I have NOT varnished yet (no time today) but here are my first impressions. I definitely like both the paper and the pen. I like the width uniformity that I could get using the paper, but I also liked how much easier it was to use the pen brush. Since this was my first time using both techniques, I am fully aware that my skills do need to develope more. They both created very dark easlly viewable lines too. I think, personally, I get better results using the paper. The pen is easy to use and requires about 2-3 times less work, but i feel, with my skill level, I cant get the uniformity that Dan shows in his posts of using it. I will continue to practice with the pen because I know i can get better results, just need more practice! The last thing is that for these sections of planking, the biggest one in the pic above is 100% covered up by the next deck. haha! So the joke is on me! But I got to try out using the pen and found it enjoyable. Jeff

Nigel, I wish you great luck on your first model! I'm glad that you have found that book helpful. I saw that the Victory book was available on Amazon, so I ordered it! I cant wait to get my nose in it on monday! Best of luck on your build! Jeff

Dan, Thank you for the advice! It seems my local arts supply store carries these. I will pick it up this weekend and try it out! Im always up for learning new techniques! Jeff

So i finished the second lower deck planking using the black paper. Here is a side by side compairing using a pencile, and using the paper: Wow! Quite the difference! I have a little brushing up to do with the paper, and they both aren't varniahed yet. I do think I like the look of the paper more. It takes about 3 times the effort and time to do it, but i like the results a lot better. This is my first attempt at this technique, and I learned a bit doing it. So the next deck planking section should look better. Jeff

Its been a little while since I posted, but I have been making small progress! I usually have about 30 min to an hour per day on average to work on the ship. I painted and glued on the strip on both sides that will hold the lowest level of guns. I saw from another build log of this kit that these strips might be too far back and ply may need to be glued to it to extend the guns to the correct length. I will be measuring each gun port before I start to plank the hull to make sure they will protrude at the correct length. Next, i have been planking the lowest level of decking. The decking is really thin (0.5mm thick) so i tried to draw the lines on the first small section. It looks like this: I thought it looked okay, but i also saw others here use black artist papet instead. I then bought some acid free black artist paper. Here is what it looks like: As you can see, i need to shave off the excess paper, but i think it does look better. My wife saw what i was doing and said, "Geeze! You must love punishing yourself!" Haha! As you can see, I had to fill in a small middle section. I started in the middle and worked outward, so I feel I have learned as i went and got better at it so the paper would glue correctly and not come up when shaving down the excess paper. If anyone has any tips for this technique, i would be very appreciative! Anyway, i hope to send more updates soon! Thanks for reading! Jeff

Yay! After chasing around my 2 year old for a week, i have finally glued all the bulkheads to the false keel AND straightend it to boot! Initially I tried to bend back the false keel to be straight after reading a thread on how to do it on this site: First, damp the concave edge of the bent keel and clamp it to a flat surface: Then let it sit overnight. The next day, I unclamped it and it worked! BUT 30 minutes later, the false keel started to return back to its original shape. So that technique was a bust. To actually fix it, I first read the thread that Dan mentioned earlier. Then i glued on the bulkheads with the help of a few levels. Third, I figued out where the bends were, and between which bulkheads. I then measured the distance between the bulkheads that needed to be straightened and cut out some plywood blocks to fit between the bulkheads. With each block, I carefully fit it between the bulckheads and checked the curvature of the keel AT THAT POINT. Sanding the ply block as needed to get the keel to straighten. Before and after glueing each piece, I checked and double checked the curvature of the false keel. Proceeding slowly, paying attention to each block and bend. In the end, i had to place 4 plywood blocks as shown here: Here is what the false keel looks like now: Its a LOT straighter. WOW! Step Number 1 took a while, but I finally got it done! Currently, I'm finishing up glueing the mast blocks onto the keel. Jeff

Thanks Dan! I got some rubbing alcohol and began to take out the bulkhead. Evetunally it came out! Hurray!!! I then took a closer inspection of the other two and noticed that i could have placed one of them better, so i took that one out too. I have since sanded down the false keel and filed the bulkheads down enough now to where they go in with a little resistance but not much. I have also took care to read the planking guides Here and measured and filed down the false keel. Its still not done yet, but finally im making progress! As a side note, i havent glued anything since i took the bulkheads out! Jeff

Dan, Thanks again for your advice! I am tied up until the weekend, but i will use your advice to get the bulkhead out. Every model is a challenge (especially when you "accidentally" make it more challenging for yourself) but i will persist and not let my bad first step get me down. I will fix it and move on!

Thanks for the advice! Unfortunately, (I'm embarrassed about it) I can't seem to glue 2 pieces of wood together! But oh well. It's my fault, not the kit. I contacted Constructo about sending some replacement ply sheets, and they finally responded. They had 2 options, free 15-30 day shipping of ~$50 or FedEx 2-5 day shipping. I chose the free shipping. They then emailed me back saying it's too difficult to ship and they want me to wire them the money for FedEx. I was a little confused because I thought they would have had a more formal way to ship replacement parts instead of wireing them money. Hmm. I wonder if this is normal? Jeff

Well, this is lovely.... The frame split in two and I can't get the frame piece out and it's not in all the way. Sigh. Guess it's back to square one... again. Jeff

Thank you Steve! I'm happy to hear of your success with this model! So I emailed Constructo's distributor about a replacement ply sheet for the false keel and they told me they don't deal with replacement parts. So i need to email Constructo directly -_-. So I used the email they told me to use, and I haven't heard back. This was about 3 days ago. So, I said heck with it and will do what Tallshiptragic said, which was to build my own false keel using the plans provided. So, here is my new false Keel! Haha! I actually found the right width board (6mm) and the sheet i bought was a LOT more straight than then one that came with the kit. Time to get to it! Jeff

Thank you guys for the advice! About the false keel, I have contacted them to see if I can get a replacement ply sheet. I hope to hear back from them soon. I do understand that this is a very ambitious kit, but I am willing to really take my time and make sure I'm doing everything to the best of my ability. After quite a while on these forums, I decided not to get a keel clamp. There were many good designs for a building board here in this forum! I have a lowes really close to my house, so I will be making one to help with placing the framed on the false keel. About the walnut finishing piece that attaches to the false keel, the instructions say to place it after planking. But I noticed that quite a few builds here show it being glued on before planking. My question is, is there a reason to do it before? I did notice though that the prefabricated piece does not 100% line up with the keel and is thinner than what is on the plans: There is some open space on the bottom and the top middle. I'm more worried about the bottom because there is a 1.1mm gap between the false keel and the finishing piece. - Jeff

Finally! After 2 years, I have enough time to start a new kit! I still consider myself new to this hobby so I will be looking up a lot of info while building! I know this kit will take me a long while to make, but I will do my best to post on a regular basis! I will be reading the instructions and other guides and tips before I start. I noticed that the keel isn't completely straight. I wonder if there is a way to help straighten it. Lastly, I noticed that there are a lot of posts here about a building board and a keel clamp. How important are these? Hmm time for some research! - Jeff