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Good choices - looking forward to seeing more progress - you'll be coming to the really fun part soon - the cabins! hamilton -
I like the colours you've chosen Al - very authentic looking for a working ship. How will you finish the waterways, bulwarks, stanchions and caprails? hamilton
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Large scale working boats from 19th and early 20th century - as a reference the Model Shipways Glad Tidings or Emma Berry. Large scale for adding detail and p.o.f. for interior work.... hamilton
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We have such a strong craft beer industry here in Vancouver that I can't imagine paying more than 8$ CDN for something really nice (4 pounds) or a little more if I want to fill a 4-litre jug to bring home....25 pounds!! The scale of life there is beyond my provincial understanding! But enough with the interlude! Back to modelling! hamilton PS - My sister used to fly microlites back home when she was younger. Drove my parents to distraction. My brother and I were comparatively tame....I didn't even get a driver's license until I was 35....
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Life must be rough when you can't get 4 beers for 10 pounds! I'm afraid I won't be coming to Old Blighty anytime soon! hamilton
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Ouch! I guess there's enough of the plans left to work from, but that is some serious damage! I'm sure you'll be able to work through it as easy as the elements! hamilton
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Need Community's Input on Best Kit Manufacturer
hamilton replied to Bandue's topic in Wood ship model kits
It would help to know your location (for reasons of shipping costs) and interest. I think the quality issue is partly the manufacturers, but also the production runs....I've bought kits that I found to be really good and then seen others with a terrible version of the same kit....by the same token, quality is very subjective - I really like Corel kits while others really don't. I've heard people say that Caldercraft are the best and others say they're not that great. Model shipways has really great support for their kits and some of the popular ones (AVS, Constitution, Bluenose) seem to be of good quality while I've heard complaints about others...... I think that all model companies make kits that are really good and really bad at the same time - nice wood quality but crappy metal fittings; poor wood quality but good laser cutting; poor instructions (almost always!) but nice plans....there are a lot of contingencies in ALL kits. Besides that, you'll find that your experience of the kit will vary - sometimes you'll love it sometimes you'll be driven crazy by it sometimes you'll be bored (sorry those who don't get bored - I myself love ratlines!). In the end the determining factors are - how much do you like the ship you're making, what is the overall quality of the information available on it and how ready are you for improvising and doing things yourself when the manufacturer fails you....as they probably will here and there.... Have fun! hamilton- 10 replies
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I went with red below the waterline and light grey above with a black sheering strake. I think there's a wide latitude of interpretation here - go with what you like! hamilton
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Wow - the planking looks amazing - even at this early stage I can tell she's going to be a beauty! hamilton
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If by "life" you mean more satisfying parts of the model, then yes that's right! Though Life too (as in family, work, home projects, taking out the trash, mowing the lawn, washing dishes, remembering to eat, maintaining friendships, reading, sweeping the floors, enjoying the sunshine, etc....)...so much can get in the way of the second planking it's a wonder it ever gets done! hamilton
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So the picture Brian posted shows that the shrouds ARE served, at least on the modern replica.....your results show that this is a much better way of doing it on the model than painting the lines......you're making great progress Tim! hamilton
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Looks really nice. Some sanding and filling and she'll be ready to paint! Congratulations hamilton
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Yes....I'm only a little ashamed to admit it....you think at my slow pace the results would be better!! Anyway, I'll have to get back to it one day.... hamilton
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Hi Tim: Knowing very little about thread, I'm assuming there must be some very fine synthetic thread that has very little fray....I used upholstery thread for seizings on larger lines like shrouds and lower stays as well as for substituting kit-supplied .008" tan thread on finer lines. It's a little over scale, but it works alright - I have a meeting next week close by to the fabric/sewing supply store where I normally buy thread and sail cloth...I'll take a look to see if there's a decent product hamilton
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Hi Tim: This looks good! Was it easy to get the hang of the serving machine? The results are really fantastic....I think I will take the same approach - if I ever get that far!! hamilton
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Hi Tim: I was thinking about getting one of those.....might need to wait as other purchases (not to mention my mortgage) are taking priority. I don't think the lines would have been painted at all. David's suggestion that it was some kind of sheathing or wrapping around that part of the shrouds seems more likely to me - probably some kind of canvas cover designed to protect the shrouds. Painting or serving would be a way of simulating this at scale. I know that the foremost shroud on period ships of war was served for the entire length, while other shrouds were served at the mast head and for a short length below. I'm not sure if serving shrouds was regular practice for a racing vessel.....But if you can achieve the look you're aiming for through this method, then who's to argue? I think the builder of the Mamoli prototype must have painted the shrouds to achieve the same effect, but the potential for sloppiness in this approach seems great, while careful serving would likely look a lot tidier. Looking forward to seeing your results! hamilton
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I wondered if it might be some kind of serving over the shroud......but a sleeve of some kind is also a possibility.......and more likely hamilton
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So I'm not sure about copyright, so instead of including images here I'm just going to post links - this is a pain, I know, since it would be easier just to reference pictures in line, but........ Tim (mojofilter) asked a question regarding the shrouds on America. The photos of the kit prototype on the box show the shrouds finished white for close to half their lower length, with the sheer poles also white. They are represented as unpainted (black/tarred) below the sheer poles and the deadeyes are a natural wood finish. The question is whether this would have been the way the 1851 America would have been rigged. I've seen several paintings that suggest that, yes, this was the practice. They are faint, but they are there. Here are a couple of links http://www.jrusselljinishiangallery.com/pages/ryan-pages/ryan-schooner%20yacht%20america.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_(yacht)#/media/File:America_(schooner_yacht)_by_Bard.jpg This second painting seems pretty rudimenary compared to the first, but it confirms the finishing of the shrouds. I've never painted rigging line, so I don't know if there's anything particular to keep in mind - I assume it may involve more than just slapping the paint on! I also have no idea why such a finishing would be given to the shrouds - does anyone know? But Tim - I think I will do the shrouds this way - or at least I'll test some white paint on some rigging line and see what I think and then decide for sure..... hamilton
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Thanks David - yes this makes sense. The Mamoli kit does show them at least partially painted white, though....not sure how common this practice was or whether it's one of those fanciful embellishments often found on model kits..... hamilton
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