GrandpaPhil

Thank you all very much for the comments and the likes! It is very interesting. It definitely started a lot of trends. A lot of the major powers in Europe seemed to duplicate what the others had. If you look at the Italian ironclads from Lissa, the bows were remarkably similar to the Magenta. Yes, I agree about the US not having to spend the money on the transition ironclads. The US did save a lot of money that way. They missed losing several entire fleets the way the European powers did.

Personally, I would get the Vanguard Alert kit out of that list. A cutter is a great first build. Also, @chris watton, the gentleman who designed the kit and manufactures it, is on this forum, and can answer questions. His stuff is top notch.

Nicely done!

Congratulations! Well done!

Congratulations! Well done!

Sorry for your loss. My condolences. For the thread, I bought a block of beeswax at a hardware store. I run all of my rigging thread through it. It works wonders. It prevents fraying and makes it much easier to handle.

Looking forward to seeing this build!

Very nice!

Congratulations! Well done!

Very nice!

Thank you all very much for the comments, the likes and just for stopping by! I got my copy of European Ironclads today!

Thank you very much for the information and the photos! I’m planning on going for a well-used, realistic look. Yes, Haze Gray’s Charles Martel is incredible. One of these days I want to learn how to use a 3D printer. Truth be told, my weakness is my lack of knowledge of 3D sculpting on a computer. I definitely agree about Jules Verne. I have learned a lot in the past couple weeks about the transition era warships. They are very neat. I’ll see how this one goes, but I’ll probably build at least one more model from this time period. The French Navy’s Historical Office has the plans for a bunch of different ships posted.

Thank you very much! I went to the craft store and hardware store today and bought myself paint, sealant, beige tulle and more wire. Time to make some hammock netting!

Very nice!

Indeed! I couldn’t pass this one up once I had seen it! I am a great fan of classic steampunk and that definitely played a major role in deciding to build Magenta.

I priced out the costs of getting the plans printed out, today. I am looking at getting them printed in 1/72 scale next weekend so I can start filling them in and plan out how I am going to build this.

Please and thank you very much! I am going to arm her as built. Which, I think also means I’m going to rig her as a barquentine. When built, she packed 16 x single 194mm (7.6 In.) smoothbore muzzle loading guns, 34 x single 164.7mm (6.5 In.) rifled muzzle loading (RML) guns and 2 x 225mm (8.9 In.) RML howitzers.

I have learned a lot and get a lot of inspiration from this forum. My last two builds came from here. Neither would have happened if I hadn’t been here. However this build turns out, it will be a lot of fun!

The plans that I am basing my build off of are from the French Ministry of Defense, and their equivalent of the Navy's Historical Office. They can be found from links from Wikipedia's Solferino page at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ironclad_Solférino They are builder's plans of the Solferino, which is nearly identical to the Magenta. The only difference I can find from looking at old photographs is the lack of the eagle on the bow of the Magenta. Firstly, we have the lines and the outboard profile: Please take note that the top body plan only goes to the outside of the frames. In order to draw out my bulkheads, I will need to make allowances for the thickness of the armor and the planking. When I calculated out the required thickness, the planking and armor came out to about 1/8" thick at 1/72 scale, so I'll have to make adjustments accordingly. This will be very dependent on what I finally decide to make the model out of. Next, we have the cross section, including armor thickness and the inboard profile: Next, we have the main deck, including platforms, and the upper gundeck: Please take note of the stern gallery walkway. Next up, we have the lower gundeck and the rest of the lower decks: Next up, we have the rigging and sail plan: This is a very basic drawing of a barque rig. Originally the Magenta-Classes had a barquentine rig. I still have not decided which rig I am going to use. Lastly, we have a detail of the armor plating: The armor band only covered the waterline and the gun decks around the gunports. According to the model in the Musee de la Marine, the bottom was coppered. According to the Wikipedia article (I know Wikipedia is not the most reliable reference, but it will work for this), the Magenta's carried 50 guns of various calibers initially. I would like to build the initial version of the ship for this model. I am looking forward to making the armaments for this model. The most I have made are 18 cannon at one time. I will carve the barrels from dowel rods like I have done in the past for my other models. But these are much newer guns than the last ones that I made, so I will figure out the detailing when I get there. I have the Osprey European Ironclads book coming (should be delivered next week) and I have Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships, 1860-1905 saved. My end goal is to get a model that looks approximately like the one of the Solferino in the Musee de la Marine. This will be a more ambitious undertaking than the Prince de Neufchatel and the Hannah, but I believe it to be well within my abilities. These are actually better plans than I built the Prince de Neufchatel from, and I am very pleased with how that turned out. We will see how this turns out.

Nicely done!

The fishnet failed. The mesh is the right size, but the fibers are way too thick. It doesn’t look right, so I removed it. Rereading Von Monfeld, he suggested the use of open weave tulle. Fortunately, I found a roll of white tulle in a giant box of craft stuff we found at a yard sale. I cut a yard off the end of it and stuck it in a strong cup of tea to stain it over night.

Thank you all very much for the likes and just for stopping by! Still working hammock cranes: The poop deck hammock cranes are now complete: I kept knocking buckets off while installing the hammock cranes on the railing overlooking the quarterdeck. I had to repair a bunch of them. I’ve been dreading getting to the netting, but it’s time to bite that bullet. Like my saying says, “The hardest part is deciding to try.” So, I’m just going to make it. I am using beige fishnet material for my netting, following pictures I’ve seen of the Victory. We’ll see how this goes.

Looking forward to seeing this!

Thank you all very much for the likes and the comments! Working on poop deck hammock cranes:

A few days ago, while surfing the forum, I came across a very neat build of the Waratah, an HMV card kit. I pay a lot of attention to card models because I have found that I enjoy building them quite a lot. This set me to looking for HMV kits, and @ccoyle showed me where you could get them on Amazon. While looking at those, I discovered the Orel card kit of the Solferino (Magenta’s sister ship) which I had to have. It is in 1/200 scale, which is very small. I like larger scale models, and 1/72 is very convenient. At first, I wanted to just triple the size of the kit. Then I started doing research. Solferino is one of two Magenta-Class Ironclads. They were broadside battleships. Essentially they were armored versions of conventional 2-decked ships of the line. They struck a chord in me and I decided I needed one, or as it turns out, both of them, lol. They are very neat looking vessels. I started my research by going to Wikipedia, which led me to the original builders plans, hosted by the French Navy’s Historical Office in .tif format, which regrettably won’t display on the forum. I like builders plans, they are fun to develop models from. I will be building Magenta from the builders plans, difficult, but fun for me. The French Musee De La Marine has a model of Solferino which I will also be using for reference (these are from wikimedia commons). I am specifically building Magenta because I will also be building the kit of the Solferino whenever I get it and I do not like building the same ship twice. I have not yet decided on the building material yet. I may build in card or cardboard, or I may build in wood. I will most likely make the final decision on the day I cut the first piece, which will be shortly after I finish the Victory. Actual construction will likely be starting in a few months because I need to finish Victory, do thorough research and print the plans/update them with the findings of my research. Thanks for visiting!