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  1. I haven't done any work on this brig for months now, for all sorts of reasons, but now it's time to get back to it and sort out a few obstacles so that I can get back into the swing of things.  First of all, can anyone offer some advice on this one please?


    The Mercury kit provides 2mm and 1.6mm thread for the main and fore stays and their respective preventer stays.

    At 1:64 scale, this represents 128mm and 102.4mm diameters of rope in real size, or about 5 inch and 4 inch - i.e. nearly 16 inch circumference stays and 12.5 inch preventers on both fore and main masts.


    This seems huge to me - the stays are twice the thickness of the fore and main lower shrouds, for example.


    Granado's specifications for mainmast stay and preventer (as given in Peter  Goodwin's Anatomy of the Ship volume) are 12 inch circumference (stay) and 8.25 inch circumference (preventer). The mizen stay and preventer are 7.5 and 7 inches respectively.

    I know Granado is an earlier generation vessel, and a ketch not a brig, but she's a similar size to Mercury, and I can't find any closer comparison data.


    The resolution of these photos is truly crummy, I'm afraid, but may give some indication of what these sizes look like on the model.  I'd be grateful for any opinions from others on this before I re-do the stays with a smaller diameter thread - I'd hate to spoil the effect if heavy guage rigging really was a feature of early 19th century brigs!!








  2. Hi Robster

    I didn't use a stain on the deck - it's just a clear acrylic (satin matt) varnish. I did  use a stain on the bulwarks - an acrylic oak colour, varnished afterwards - but I'm not too happy with the slightly patchy finish.  Still, stuck with it now, unless I decide on a fairly drastic re-painting job after all. Also used a dark walnut stain on the capping rail, and on the lower masts. None of them came out quite as well as I had hoped.

    Strangely enough, I was thinking just before you posted your question of taking a few more photos of this brig this afternoon - I wanted some advice on rigging - so I'll get on with that right now.

    Best wishes, 


  3. As far as I remember, I glued the extensions to the bulkheads when I was making Granado -  you're sure of a tight fit if you do that - and they broke off easily enough when needed (I used pva and clamped the gunport patterns on), although some sanding was needed to get the last of the glue & wood off. 


    I would rather use pva for this job - you have to get the fit right, and CA can grab too fast too allow this.  As advised in the instructions, I used CA for most of the 2nd planking on Granado, but for Mercury I've gone over to pva, using CA only to stick the plank to the stem and first bulkhead. I find it's easier to manage and doesn't mark the wood as badly.  


    And I soaked the gunport patterns, but just once.  Are they plywood? (can't remember) - mind you don't over soak them and make them buckle up.


    I have wondered sometimes whether gluing thick paper to the bulkhead extensions before gluing on the gunport patterns would be an idea - maybe it would hold the patterns in place properly but would make removal easier - but I've never tried this.


    Yes, I agree with Vane that cutting out the oar port holes could be a good idea at this stage - in fact I don't know why they're not pre-cut in the patterns as supplied.  I didn't think of this issue until it was too late and had stuck the oar port lids on!!

    And I agree with Vane also about the difficulty of getting small holes to look good - I'm not 100% pleased with the results I've got with my Mercury brig, but there it is.  At least with the Granado kit you only have to worry about the appearance of the oar ports on the inboard side (assuming that you're going to fit the port lids in the closed position).

  4. Yes, the colour variation in walnut is a problem.  Even similar looking pieces can change colour slightly when varnished.

    Another worry I had while aiming at a bare wood finish for Mercury was the effect that glue marks can have on untreated wood: whether using  CA or PVA, if you get glue on the surface of the wood (and it's impossible not to), it won't take the varnish (or dye) properly at a later stage.  So to try and avoid this, I varnished all the planks that I'd selected for the second planking before I glued them on. This seems to have worked fairly well so far.

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    Quite a time since I posted anything on this log, so here goes...

    First of all, the above pic shows what happens if you don't read the instructions properly! I should have planked the stern counter before starting the second planking of the main hull - why I didn't remains a mystery - but now as a result I have two unsightly gaps to deal with, not to mention the rather crummy looking join of the hull planking with the stern.  Oh well.1362890321_IMG_20200513_081008719(1).thumb.jpg.c89214016e51aadd7f61eb0789edf3a1.jpg Getting the deck installed. The clamps worked nicely, the map pins not so well as some of them have left scratches on the deck where the lower edge of the plastic part bore down on the wood. Anyway, it's gone on well enough.


    Getting the transom on.  This was easier than I thought it was going to be.



    So this is about where I am with this build at the moment. As things are, I've decided to go for a minimal use of paint throughout, with the exception of black for the wale, stem, keel, rudder post & transom.  No waterline,  no coppering. Unless I change my mind again!


  6. Fantastic work! the detail you have achieved is incredible, especially considering the small scale of this model. Some years ago I tried my hand at the Trumpeter Tsesarevich kit, but after a struggle (just spelling the name was hard enough), I abandoned it.  Looking at your pictures makes me wish I'd kept at it, though I doubt I'd ever have got near this level of skill!

  7. Hi Glenn

    I was looking at your Pegasus pictures only this morning - terrific build, many congratulations! Same for Granado.  Granado was my first (recent) attempt, Pegasus came straight afterwards.  My brig Mercury is coming along, but at the moment I don't feel quite as enthused about it as with the others - not yet, at least.  The other day your pictures of Lady Nelson made me start thinking that I might have a try at that kit for my next...

    Best wishes,


  8. Hi Mark,

    Exactly the same happened to me a couple of weeks ago - I coppered the entire starboard side of my HMS Pegasus, didn't like what I had spent 2 days doing, and pulled the lot off again in  half an hour (used a pair of thin nose pliers).  I found that removing the glue residue was possible, though quite hard work, but for the time being I put on 2 coats of acrylic paint (matt white plus yellow ochre), which before long can come off again when I get round to completing the sanding down of the rough parts of the surface (in the meantime, the roughness gives it quite a convincingly worn & weathered look, I thought!) Have a look at the pics in my Pegasus build log. But don't give up!!!

    Best wishes,


  9. Thanks Darrell! It's been a long haul with Pegasus, and I'm relieved to have come out at the end of it without too many disasters. 

    The paint is a mixture of acrylic matt white and yellow ochre (Admiralty Paints), two coats with a medium brush.

    I've just been looking at your Niagara, by the way - fantastic work and an amazing recovery from accidents! I'm looking forward to having a good look at your build log later on.

    Incidentally (and slightly uncannily) I also share your experiences not only with the Revell Cutty Sark (which I made about 3 years ago, and which was one of the things which brought me to try my hand with another wooden kit), but also with the Toulonnaise - was yours the Billiing Boats version? I bought mine in 1983 or so, spent a long time on the hull over a period of some years, before I too gave up and abandoned it.  I threw the completed hull away only last summer, and, again, like you, I now totally regret having done so!!  Oh well, we live & learn....

    Best wishes,


  10. So much for my attempts at coppering the hull.

    Pegasus is now back in dock, without copper plates but with white hull below waterline instead.

    For the record, it only takes about 30 minutes to undo about 2 days' coppering work.  Still, it was worth it for the experience.

    With Pegasus about 99% finished, I've gone back to my other build, the brig Mercury.  A change is as good as a rest...


  11. Dear Martin,

    My condolences to you as well, along with Grandpa Phil's.

    I didn't use hooks on the tackles on my Granado, but Peter Goodwin's illustration on p. 91 of his book in the Anatomy of the Ship series clearly shows them, at the gun end and the bulwark end of the tackles.

    Mr Goodwin also says that no information exists as to what boats were carried on Granado, but that she was possibly equipped (when serving as a bomb vessel) with a 16-foot longboat, and with an added 24ft pinnace when serving as a sloop.  He goes on to say that a boat could have been towed astern, or possibly stowed above the after mortar housing, to be swung out when needed, by a tackle from the lower yards.

    I agree totally with Grandpa Phil's recommendation of this book. It's a great shame that it's not more readily available at a reasonable price - however, I see that amazon have a few copies at present , at around £80.  This is a lot to pay for a single volume - but for detailed guidance on everything belonging to Granado, it's worth every penny!

    Best wishes,



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