Dr PR

Thanks.

What resin are you using now. Is it flexible when hardened?

The metric system is far superior to random noggins and farthings, but the "abstract and idealized" definition posted above makes about a much sense as inches, feet and yards. I too despise the meaningless names - especially "famous man" monikers - used for the units. Changing from the logical "centigrade" to "Celsius" was pure stupidity.

Please post photos directly onto the forum.

I have been studying the blueprints and creating a set of plans for the model. I decided to use 21 bulkheads to give good support for the planking. Here is the center or "keel" piece. Black lines outline the part and the green lines show additional detail. The piece will be made of two 1/16 inch (1.59 mm) thick pieces of plywood laminated together. Most of the thinner plywood is available in 12 inch (305 mm) or 24 inch (610 mm) sheets, and the hull is 27 inch (685 mm) long. Each side will be made in two pieces, one with the break near the front of the hull. The other side piece will have the break near the stern. When glued together this will produce a six-ply part 1/8 inch (3.175 mm) thick. A 1/6 inch (1.59 mm) thick "foot" will be attached to the bottom of the keel. The bulkheads will be made from 1/8 inch (3.175 mm) plywood. In this drawing the solid lines outline the parts. The surrounding dashed lines show the outer edges of the 1/16 inch (1.59 mm) thick hull and deck planking. The red parts at the bottom of the bulkheads outline the center keel piece and the garboard strakes. The garboard strakes are not simple planks. They have a complex shape with a cross section varying from rectangular to trapezoidal, rotating with the curvature of the hull. They will probably be the most difficult parts to fabricate. The actual keel on the ship was 9 1/2 inches wide (0.1979 inch or 5 mm at 1:48 scale). That is close to 3/16 inch (0.1875), so I will glue two 1/32 inch (0.79375 mm) pieces on the sides of the keel piece below the bulkheads to create the rabbet for the garboard strakes to fit against. The foot piece will be 3/16 (4.76 mm) wide. The next job was to figure out how much material will be needed. I will use 3/16 x 1/6 inch (4.76 x 1.59 mm) basswood strips for the hull planking. The deck will be 1/16 x 1/16 inch (1.59 x 1.59 mm) basswood strips. I do not have a collection of tools to rip the pieces myself, so I will have to buy them commercially. Strips with these dimensions are readily available from many sources. Here is a drawing of the main deck layout. The many objects are the outlines of the superstructure, foundations for the mooring, anchoring and minesweeping gear, plus some hatches and scuttles. Most of these things were just mounted on top of the deck planking on the ship, so I will do the same. Here is a drawing of the deck planking - from this I can estimate the amount of planking strips I will need. I enjoyed nibbing the planks into the margin boards on my Albatros build, so I am looking forward to it on this model. However, the narrow 1/16 inch (1.59 mm) planks may pose more of a challenge than the 5 mm (0.197 inch) planks on the Albatros. The outermost boards around the sides of the deck are the planksheer boards. Forward of frame 51 this board was 14 3/4 inch wide (0.307 inch or 7.81 mm at 1:48). Aft of frame 51 the planksheer was 9 1/4 inch (0.193 inch or 4.895 mm) to the stern. Across the stern the planksheer was 11 1/4 inch (0.234 inch or 5.953 mm) wide. Life on the Cape The XO and I shared a 9 ft. x 5 ft. (3 x 1.6 meters) stateroom, with over/under bunks, four small drawers and two feet of closet space. Fortunately, this was considered to be too small for an officer in the US Navy to live in, so we qualified for rooms at the BOQ (Bachelor Officer's Quarters) on Long Beach Naval Station. Unfortunately, the officers of the Cape and Cove had acquired notorious reputations for exceptionally loud and raucous parties, with loud music and hot and cold running babes. This offended the more senior officers who lived at the BOQ, especially since they didn’t get invited to those parties. So they had the fellows kicked out of the BOQ and run off base, and they were told to live on the ship. But since I was just reporting, and the officer I was relieving was technically still “living on board,” I qualified for temporary lodging. My CO suggested I not mention the name of the ship I was on. I was begrudgingly allowed to have a BOQ room, temporarily. In fact, the fellow I was relieving had an apartment overlooking Zuma Beach, and what an apartment! From the balcony there were vistas of wave after wave of bikinis! But I didn’t tell the folks at the BOQ about this, and I managed to hold on to the BOQ room while I was on the ship. The senior petty officers had appropriated a minesweep and supply stores locker below deck on the stern as "Petty Officer Quarters." The remaining 15 men berthed in the bow. However, only two or three men actually lived aboard. Most had apartments in town. As a result, for breakfast and at evening meal only the duty section and a couple others were aboard. The full crew was aboard for noon meal, except some of us who went to the Officer's Club or Enlisted Men's Club for lunch. We were allotted three meals a day for each enlisted man from the Navy supply system, and received much more food than the crew could consume. Even though the crew dined on steaks for supper and bacon and sausage for breakfast we had a lot left over. This created an interesting problem for the Supply Officer – me. We managed to get rid of the excess food one way or the other. But the extra coffee and canned hams were saved for special occasions. McHale's Navy The Cape was McHale's Navy – for real. The ship was too underpowered to do any serious minesweeping, and just got in the way of the faster sweeps. The one time we went out on a minesweeping exercise the sweep gear got tangled in the mine cable and we had to pull out of line and let the "big boys" (MSOs) do the work. We had to haul in the gear, and the mine, and send a man over the stern to untangle things. On subsequent exercises we were either assigned to patrol the perimeter of the area, or just told to "go away and come back at 1600" (4 PM). On one of these occasions we told the Cove to go dead in the water and we then tied up along side. We dumped firefighting foam (congealed cow's blood) over the stern to attract sharks and fished with some of the excess lesser quality meat. The winches and davits on the stern made great fishing gear, with enough power to reel in a whale if we caught one. We caught a good sized shark and had a barbeque on the fantail with shark steaks for supper. We stowed excess 5 pound cans of coffee and canned hams in the bilges. This stuff was worth its weight in gold! When we needed something from the official Navy supply system or from the shipyard, we could submit the required paperwork and wait for it to be approved (or denied). Or we could send a man over with a 5 pound can of coffee and get what we needed immediately by cumshaw (look it up). For especially critical or costly items a canned ham delivered to the right person had a remarkable effect in speeding things up. Apparently this unofficial supply system had been going on for years by the time I came aboard. It had the effect of reducing the actual cost of doing business for the ship. And that led the Navy accounting people to reduce the ship's OPTAR (budget) to reflect the official expenditures. As a result, we had an annual OPTAR of only $1200! To put this into perspective, a single non-magnetic (it was a minesweeper) 10 inch crescent wrench cost $800, or 2/3 of the annual budget! We had no choice but to use comshaw and midnight appropriations to get what we needed! On one occasion a tachometer shaft broke in the main engines and we didn't have a tool to remove it. "Give me a canned ham" my leading engineman said, and he and another engineman headed over to the shipyard. A couple hours later they returned with a custom 4" socket that was 10 inches deep that fit nicely around the shaft. We had a very talented cook named Johnson. He showed up mornings to prepare breakfast for the crew, and made lunch for everyone. He prepared the evening meal for the duty section before going home ashore in the evenings. He managed to make very tasty meals from the Navy standard issue materials. One of his specialties was large cakes that he baked in the ship's galley. These were two to three times larger than necessary to feed the crew. But they were part of the ship's bargaining currency. I recall my leading electrician telling me we needed a part but the supply depot said it wasn't in stock. He took a good sized portion of one of Johnson's cakes and wandered off down pier nine toward the line of MSOs (ocean going minesweepers) tied up there. An hour or so later he returned with the part, and a few men on another ship got to enjoy Johnson's work. Maybe now you get the idea why I think this ship should be immortalized with a model. It was unique, and certainly fit the bill to meet Howard Chapelle's suggestion to model something different.

Andrew's sail does look very realistic! Nice work. I have given some thought to creating sails from strips of silkspan glued together, but it seems like a lot of work. However, it might produce more realistic sails than just penciling in lines. Gluing silkspan strips together with a 50:50 water to glue mixture is very easy. I use the little quilting iron to quick dry the glue.

Are you by any chance the NAVOCS A-6905 Dave Wood?

I used silkspan for sails on my current model. It was the first time I have worked with silkspan and it was very easy. I followed Tom Lauria's procedure mostly. I used a small quilting iron to iron the tablings and linings, and to iron the entire sail after everything dried. It can also be used for plank bending! https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19611-albatros-by-dr-pr-mantua-scale-148-revenue-cutter-kitbash-about-1815/?do=findComment&comment=1039363

Roel, When you are at sea what is your duty rotation - how many hours on and off?

For panted lettering you can first paint the desired letter color on the surface. Then use rub-on lettering to spell the name. After this paint over it all with the background color. Then, after the paint dries, lift off the rub-on letters. This produces lettering and background in any colors you want, and the letters won't yellow or peel off after time. You can do this on name plates, hulls, or anything.

Jacob, You are doing great for a first build! You seem to have a knack for model ship building. Don't sweat it if your model isn't perfect in your eyes. I started when I was a kid, working from scratch because I didn't know about ship model kits, and the results were far from perfect. I have been building ship models for at least 65 years now and none is "perfect" to me. After all, the builder scrutinizes the work much more than anyone else, and there is always something that could be improved. But I am satisfied with the builds. If you continue with the quality of workmanship you have shown so far you will have a model you can be proud of.

It wasn't just ancient battleships. Boat booms are common on more modern vessels - at least into the late 20th century. They were used to tether boats while they were not in use. There is a definite line leading up to the mast, so this is a boom rigged outboard, and the thing on the side of the hull is the attachment point.

Valeriy, The Cape hull will be 28 inches (71.12 cm) at 1:48 scale. That is long enough that I may try your method of building two half hulls and joining them. This makes it easier to get the frame/bulkheads identical on both sides. I will probably use single layer planking (with lots of bulkheads) because that is what I have always done in the past. I like the idea of individual planks because the planks were visible on the original hull.

Tom, I didn't get a Command at Sea star. I don't think they have a "Command at the Wrecking Yard" star. Roel, I just scanned the docking plan and I think I will probably put the model on the blocks for drydocking.

Roel, That certainly must be the first time anyone referred to the Cape as "awesome!" You may be spoiling things here because the Cape is supposed to be the least awesome of the US Navy's ships.

I have been plugging away at the blueprints. I have photographed all the drawings I think are necessary for the model - but I will probably discover some others that I need to copy. The microfilm images are usually 2-5 separate photos of the original paper plans. These need to be combined to make an image of the entire original sheet. I use Photoshop to put the pieces together into a single drawing file. So far I have pieced together 84 full blueprint sheets. There are a dozen or two more to do. Here are the hull lines. I also have the Table of Offsets that I can use to create the frame/station lines in my CAD program. These drawings will be sufficient for making the hull. It was a wooden ship, and I plan to build a wooden plank on bulkhead model. The original ship was double planked over frames. Minesweepers needed very strong hulls to withstand the shock of mines exploding close by. The inner planking was diagonal, running from the main deck level down at 45 degrees to the keel. The outer planking was the typical horizontal "strakes." The frames were on 15" (38 cm) spacing. This produced a very strong hull. I considered double planking with the inner layer diagonal, but on second thought this seems like a lot of unnecessary work. It is hard enough to get planks to follow the long horizontal curves of the hull. Getting diagonal planks to fit to the much greater vertical curvature and somehow fit into the rabbet at the bottom of the bulkhead/frames would be just asking for trouble! I am still looking for the blueprints for some of the deck gear and winches. Minesweepers carried large spools of cables of several types, and had correspondingly large winches and motors to power them. The deck was crowded with sweep gear. Of course the reason I want to build this model is that the Cape was my first ship when I entered the Navy, so it has special interest for me, even if no one else on the planet cares at all. Besides, it really was special in a way I hope to tell. The Captain of the USS Cape was Officer-in-Charge LT Fred Buck. He was a newly promoted Lieutenant who signed on for another hitch specifically to get the command. The XO was LTJG Dave Devine, a suntanned surfer from SOCAL. He looked like a Greek god and the girls called him Devine Dave. He was also First Division (deck division) Officer. And me, Ensign Fuzz, straight out of Naval Officer Candidate School (NAVOCS) in Newport, Rhode Island. I asked my detailer in Washington for assignment to any large ship that was home ported in Yokosuka, Japan. I wanted to see the world and that seemed like a good place to start. And there I was on the Cape, bolted to the pier in Long Beach. When I reported aboard the Cape on 25 April 1969 the ship was in Hal Larson’s Boat Yard and Bicycle Repair Shop in San Pedro, California. Just finding it was an adventure! I say it was “bolted” to the pier because the normal term for a ship that never gets under way is “welded to the pier.” But the Cape was a wooden minesweeper, so “bolted” seemed like a better choice. We did occasionally get under way for training exercises – usually a trip around Catalina Island while the crew did some fishing. But the ship was pretty much useless so the Navy left us at the pier most of the six months I was aboard. I was the officially appointed Engineering Officer, Supply Officer, Damage Control Officer, NBC Defense Officer, Health Officer, Athletics Officer, Special Services Officer, Transportation Officer, Fire Prevention Officer, MDCS Officer, Allotment Accounting Officer, Alternate RPS Custodian and Witnessing Officer, Tax Free Cigarette Custodian, Tax Free Cigarette Audit Board, Magnetic Signature Control Officer, Gas Free Engineer, Cape Recreation Council, COMTAC Publications Control Officer, COMTAC Publications Library Inspection Board, Narcotics & Alcohol Board, Educational Services Officer, Officer of the Deck, Command Duty Officer and Wardroom Treasurer. Twenty four official duties! I was George, the junior officer in the Wardroom, so all the bureaucratic BS was dumped on me. Unfortunately, I knew nothing about any of these duties, except perhaps the engineering part. My father was a mechanic and I grew up in a garage. So working on engines was pretty much second nature to me. My orders out of NAVOCS were to six weeks of Minesweeping Officers Course, one week of RPS Custodian School, one week Cryptographic Operators Course, and then to Supply Officer's School. But those orders were cancelled and I was ordered to report directly to the Cape with no further training. As it happens it didn't matter. We didn't do much minesweeping, the ship didn't have any cryptographic equipment or restricted pubs, and my supply petty officer seemed to know what he was doing.

Brian, The Cape was eventually converted into a private yacht. I think it is still sailing in the Puget Sound area.

Joachim, I am not familiar with the Royal Navy cutters so I can't answer your question directly. Wolfram zu Mondfeld's Historic Ship Models (page 158) has a short section on ship's bells. The belfry was often a pretty elaborate thing that added to the decorations on larger ships. But it was more modest on the smaller vessels. Mondfeld says the English were probably the first to use bells, and cites a reference for the second rate Rainbow of 1650. He says merchant ships carried a single bell near the stern until the early 1700s when it was moved to the forecastle. Warships had the bell somewhere on the forecastle.

Another superb model! I have followed several of your builds and each demonstrates first class worksmanship. I think you could make a model of a garbage scow look beautiful!

Valeriy, It will be a display model. I will try to build it to your standards!

Allen, I researched the ship's bell position a while back. It varied from ship to ship, but up until a couple of centuries ago it was almost always somewhere near the stern. I have seen several examples where it was on the after mast. Sometimes it was in a belfry on deck, either before or after the mast. The belfry often was part of the bitts or pin rail at the base of the mast, or in the railing at the forward edge of the quarterdeck. Beginning in the 1700s or early 1800s they started moving the bell to the bow. Again, it could be mounted to the fore mast, on bitts or in a belfry. Or it was in the railing on the aft side of the foc's'le. I found that the bell is often omitted from drawings of deck fittings. Wherever you mount the bell be careful that it will not foul any of the rigging. This can be a problem with mast mounted bells.

Jim, The Cape was the flagship of MINERON 11 (I seem to have had a flagship destiny in the Navy). We didn't get underway much and the crew had a lot of time on their hands. They kept everything clean, painted and polished, very "ship shape."

Tom, My job was to keep the nukes from going BANG! when we didn't want them to. I was primarily Nuclear Safety Officer. I conducted training and oversaw all handling exercises to be sure the rules were followed exactly. The 1960s were before we had store and forget missiles and warheads. They had to be inspected and tested periodically and that required a lot of handling. So I was kept busy.

Keith, McNamara's 100,000 was a test group to see if those who failed the Navy's entrance exam could still perform useful duties. They were draftees - the Navy took a few and the rest became grenade catchers. We had two men on board from this group. Both were bosun's mates. One was a total basket case - couldn't tie his shoe laces without help. But he was a working machine - like a robot. Put him to work chipping paint and he wouldn't stop until the whole ship was stripped. You had to tell him to stop for lunch or he would work right through. The other fellow was a logger from the Pacific Northwest. He had been a log truck driver before he was drafted. He was pretty smart - I figure he deliberately failed the induction tests to avoid the draft, but McNamara took him anyway! He was our helmsman.

Tom, I was Nuclear/Special Weapons Officer on the OK City. Follow these links if you want more details: https://www.okieboat.com/Life In A Tin Box.html https://www.okieboat.com/index.html