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Bravo Glen, those front piles look so authentic and scale correct. Looking good mate. cheers Pat- 235 replies
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Thanks Glen, a great relaxing holiday and just what I needed. I hope you don't mind but ... Snap! I think the first photo following is of the same point of land (that you show in your posted piccy) taken from a slightly different shooting point, and a sunset to boot. Nothing special, just taken from my phone camera. cheers Pat
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Hi all, I found the discussion I referred to. It is in a book titled 'Ship Joinery' by S.G. Duckworth (1923) - see chapter X (page 118). PDF copies can be found online. While it is not truly describing vessels of the 19th century, I think the essentials of the joinery practices will not have changed much, if at all. In this he states: Ladders are made in various sizes, the spread being usually from 1 ft. 6 in. to 2 ft. 6 in.; the rise to be comfortable should not be greater than 9 in.; and the slope should be such that the angle between the ladder side and a plumb-line will not be less than 37°. Later, starting at page 126, he discusses stairs which is far to large a section to paraphrase here. Essentially he writes that the 'straight' stairs' typically had a rise of 7" and a going (horizontal distance between the faces of two risers) as 9". He also provides excellent drawings of the style and parts of the staircases and associated companionways. I hope this helps cheers Pat
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What a collaboration of minds this project is! I am convinced you guys will arrive at the most probable hull form and equipment fit with this sort of preparation and contributions. @druxey and @@ClipperFan, I am not 100% sure of this, but I seem to recall a discussion on the subject of stairs and ladders in one of the pdf copies of wood ship construction or wood joinery (ship related) books written about this era. As soon as I have caught up on the neglected chores etc. resulting from my trip I will have a look and see if I can find it. cheers Pat
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That looks pretty sweet from my vantage also Steven. cheers Pat
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Hi Rob, I go away for a couple of week's holiday and return to find another wonderful clipper project on the go. Sorry to latch onto the coat tails of the project so far along, but it looks like this will be another entertaining log and great build. I hope there is still room to jostle into the peanut gallery? cheers Pat
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Just back from my holiday in Norfolk Island Glen and happy to see the excellent work you have done in progressing your latest SIB. Glad to see you could also find some useful work for those dastardly penguins - about time they earned their keep cheers Pat
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Just back from my holiday to Norfolk Island Keith and absolutely delighted to catch-up with your pile driver log. Some great progress and I look forward to seeing more. cheers Pat
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This will test your skills in a whole lot of other ways Keith. Looking forward to seeing this all come together. cheers Pat
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Better watch that one at the bottle's mouth Glen, looks like it has its eye on the target. cheers Pat
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Nice to see you back to your maritime roots Greg. This looks like it will be a very interesting build and I am sure you will enjoy going to town with your weathering on a model of this size. cheers Pat
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Hi Glen, she's coming along beautifully mate. I am heading off on a three week holiday in a couple of days so will probably not get to see her completion as I will be on the road with only the occasional chance to catch-up. Loved following yet another of your wonderful SIB logs. cheers Pat
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Hi Pitan, The tack of the gaff/stay sails could be hauled up for several purposes as explained below, and also to allow the coxswain/helmsman to see forward when necessary, especially if sailing close to the wind. The tack of these fore-and-aft sails could be hauled up using a tack tricing line. John Harland (Seamanship in the Age of Sail), page 80, explains that: With a quartering wind, just as the weather clew of the mainsail had to be ‘docked up’, so the tack of the gaff mizzen needed to be to be raised, to avoid blanketing the lee clew of the mainsail. This ‘tricing up’ of the tack was done to balance the sail plan, when hove to, or to avoid the necessity of carrying excessive weather helm. GS Nares - Seamanship (1868), page 72, writes that the tack tricing line was: A double whip, from the throat of the spanker gaff to the tack of the sail, the strop of the lower block is likewise secured to the toggle of the tack tackle, on tricing up the tack the toggle is pulled out by the tricing line and the tack freed from the tack tackle, the end of the fall being kept fast to the tack for a downhaul. He also informs that: ... that the tack tricing line lower block was secured to the toggle of the tack tackle. However, depending on the vessel, these could also be rigged with lighter lines and using a whip rather than a tackle. Hope this helps explain its use. More knowledgeable people may offer further detail. cheers Pat
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Glad to hear you had a great trip Glen, even if you put on a couple of extra pounds (sounds so delicious - envious). Looking forward to seeing how you put all those parts together in that bottle; you're making great progress mate. cheers Pat
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I thought they were the only type of jigs to build John Noice work Steven. cheers Pat
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Ditto Bedford, such an obvious technique yet most of us mere mortals never think of such ideas. cheers Pat
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Short answer I think is that it depends on the era and nationality of the vessel. In some ships some of the ratlines started on the leading shroud, but others on the second, and some terminated on different shrouds also, others were staggered in a specific pattern. For English ships, Lees is a good references. For French ships I would suggest Boudriot is a good reference as he is very familiar with French ships. Some research will be necessary to determine what is right for the ship you are modelling for 1577. Some more knowledgeable people here may be able to assist further if you could provide the name/nationality and rate of the vessel. cheers Pat
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Nice 'bodging' Eberhard, the crew are looking good. Your steady hands have come to the fore with some really well defined fine detail showing. cheers pat
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Great to see another post Bruce and good luck for a hassle-free move. Look forward to seeing your build on the workbench again. cheers Pat
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BANYAN replied to tmj's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
News to me but an interesting idea/practice. I am researching in the 19th century and have not yet come across this, but I have not really been looking. If I find anything I will get back to you. cheers pat
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