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Hi Keith, WRT boiler water - standard ol' fresh water would not cut the mustard. The water has to be of a particular purity to prevent the build up of scale etc etc, so more likely she will have had a donkey boiler or evaporator of some type to produce this (for both boilers) - but she will still have had to have sufficient storage for it. Your project is coming along very nicely and I'm enjoying the journey. cheers Pat
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Now there a lightbulb moment for you. Great idea and well put into practice - looks great Glen. Keith, where do you get these pics - have you got a a private penguin breeding colony? cheers Pat
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I know you can, I know you can, I know ... Looking good Glen. That's a mean lookin' little ship. cheers Pat
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Late to the party again - hope there's some popcorn left Keith. This looks being a very entertaining and fulfilling (for you) project mater. I'll be following along with great interest. cheers Pat
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Hi Keith, you may have noticed I was watching on/lurking this wonderful build, but had not commented. Everyone else had complimented and made all the relevant/necessary responses without me further cluttering up your build. Congrats on finishing the project, it looks great - an interesting maritime related subject matter that I have not seen covered before. KUDOS cheers Pat
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Thanks for this wonderful mini-tute Eberhard. It is a great reminder of what can be done at such scales. The strakes turned out very symmetrical and look the real deal. Those boats were very low in the water with a low freeboard by the looks of it. When fully loaded the troops must have gotten a tad wet I think. cheers Pat
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BANYAN replied to BANYAN's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Hi Eberhard, sorry missed you question on the first read. Short answer "I don't really know" From everything I have read so far, the bent timbers were put in after the diagonal planking had been completed. Shadow moulds (as they are called in the related correspondence from the build superintendent) were used as temporary framing/shaping members. These were taken out and replaced with bent timbers and iron knees/plates (alternating bent timber/plate to beam, bent timber. The floors only extended to the round of the hull (first futtock), and the iron plates extended down to these picking up the top of the floor timber with a single bolt. Everything I have found to date suggests they were a single bent timber that went from gunwale to gunwale, and that were indeed steam bent. However, their scantling was not as heavily a timber as a frame. If you ever come across anything else it will be most gratefully accepted. cheers Pat -
Hi Glen - just keeping you on your toes. In sailor speak (well our navy at least) this was a way of saying 'neat and tidy'. cheers Pat
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Tis easy to decode Glen, just sample a few nips of good ol' Bundy Rum You may even understand baby talk after that BTW, your Connie is looking great, the rigging is looking nice and 'tiddly'. cheers Pat
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Sorry to hear of the trials and tribulations during your canal excursion Keith - I can understand the problems. My wife will not allow me to get on the roof for the regular maintenance these days; she says I have lost 'me sea legs'. Getting older 'sucks' . No rush on your model progress mate, family and friends must always take precedence. cheers Pat
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Quite the collection you have of unusual early ships Steven. I have enjoyed following along, especially the excellent model resulting from your reseach. cheers Pat
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Sounds good to me looks like Keith has you covered cheers Pat
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Hi Sizzolo, are you talking about the gratings/duck boards in the bottom of ship's boats? These came in two types as far as I am aware, but there are more experienced/knowledgeable people on this forum who may correct this. Type 1 was constructed from widely spaced simple slats/planks laid longitudinally and shaped to conform with the inside of the hull. This may have required them being made in separate parts, or checke3d in around major ribs, stringers and the like. Type 2 was constructed the same as a ship's hatch covering. These were made with a smaller grid (smaller battens and crosspieces, and laid the same as the slat type. Are these what you are talking about? Also some gigs and pinnaces, used as the Admiral/Captain's barge/boat, had more elaborate furnishing and fittings. It is possible that the oiled canvas mats, similar in decor as the Captain/Admirals cabins, and as suggested by @barkeater were also used in their boats. The mats will simply have been laid/put down over the boat's decking. Obviously, these will have been of a much smaller size and grid pattern. I have attached a piccy I took in a fancy heritage house in Hobart, Tasmania which used painted canvas mats which look quite good IMHO. While this is much fancier than the typical checkerboard pattern it shows what they will have looked like. Hope this helps? cheers Pat
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Great project idea Glen. Now I fully expect to see the motley crew, especially Jack Sparrow, as part of this one Look forward to seeing this one develop. cheers Pat
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Nice job Steven, looks good. WRT belaying points, some lines could be brought to the same point. This is especially true for all the lines used to control the sail being brought to a common belaying point so that a sailor could grab them in hand all at once (as all those lines needed to be worked togeher). Not sure if applicable tour build but would make an appropriate story/yarn? cheers Pat
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I think you may be a little harsh on your build efforts Eberhard; from my perspective I don't think there is much you could improve on. cheers Pat
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Hi John and Keith, those were my immediate thoughts also - a fairlead for guiding/controlling lines led from forward. Did she have a capstan aft? One of the issues we had when losing power to the main capstan was raising the anchor by hand. We usually reverted to the tried and tested three-fold cable/deck tackles, but when possible tried to utilise other winches (such as boat /hawser winches) to assist such tasks. These required a long unobstructed lead, so having fairleads would be beneficial? In reverse, the lead may be used to lead a messenger to the capstan from aft for bringing in a tow rope or the like? Just brainstorming here cheers Pat
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An exquisite model Eberhard. It really is a showcase for your skills and attention to detail. I very much enjoyed the journey of the build. cheers Pat
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