Thukydides

That shop has some really interesting things in it. I had just planned to drill holes and use black fishing line, but I may consider the rivits.

Looks really good, well done. I still don’t have to do yard work as we still have snow on the ground .

Log #31: The Cannon Carriages Part II Work has continued slowly making my way towards getting all the fitting ready for painting. I have finished removing the mould lines from the cannon barrels. One of them had a bit of a gap along the mould line which I had to fill with some milliput, but apart from that there were no issues. I also decided I would also add some extra details to the cannon carriages. You can see below the drilling of the holes for the wheel pins using one of the spare wheels to get the spacing right. As I was doing this I realized that I had assembled the carriages wrong. The transom is meant to be at an angle, but I glued them in vertical. Chris even has the bolt that secures them laser cut into the carriages so it should have clued me in to the fact that I was doing it wrong. I briefly considered leaving them as is (it will be hard to see the difference once the cannons are attached. But then I remembered that I will always know so I broke out the isopropyl and my hobby knife and gently pried them off. Then I had to cut/file/sand off the glue residue and attach them once again. I lost a whole afternoon to this, but having got it done I am pleased I did. See below for the corrected version (left) beside what I had originally done (right).

It is hard to tell from your pictures, but make sure that the sheer is a nice smooth curve and that the wedges you added are concave not convex. On you issue with the ports on the transom not lining up, one solution would be to beef it up a bit as @Blue Ensign did in this post: The kit part can be aligned so it matches the deck level, but then you can plank over the back to cover up any gaps.

Log #30: The Cannon Carriages Part I I continue to work away at the deck fittings and attaching rings to eyebolts. By my count I need 60 of these ring and eyebolt combos so I have a bit of a ways to go. As I was constructing the carriages for the cannons and looking at reference photos and drawings to try and figure out the number of rings / eyebolts necessary I noticed that the kit provides beds (19), but not quoins(2). This simplification obviously makes it easier to make the carriages, but I decided to try my hand at adding some quoins. I started with pieces of wood cut down to 5mmx2mm rectangles from spare wood left over from one of the laser cut sheets. I then used my miniature chisels to shape them into wedges and then with the same chisel thinned them towards the narrow end. I thinned the kit beds down to just under 1mm and then glued the quoins to them. And you can see the final result. Not perfect, but I think it enhances the look of the cannons and now the barrels sit naturally on them. Note the metal bar is just temporarily there to allow me to glue the bed to the rear axel at the correct angle.

Time for a minor update. I have been slowly picking away at the deck fittings and cannons in preparation to paint all of them once they are all finished. Removing the laser char from the cannons is a bit of a fiddly task, but I am slowly getting there. I am planning on leaving the wheels for the cannons unpainted (mostly for artistic contrast reasons), but I needed to remove the laser char or they would look like they had an iron band around them. using a wooden bbq skewer, some sandpaper and my drill I was able to remove it. As a minor note, did anyone else notice there was an extra cannon (or at least the wooden parts for it, I didn’t check to see if I have an extra barrel). I assume this was simply to allow me to have an extra for my eventual mistakes.

Thanks @aliluke, the atos book is not really necessary. I only reference it every now and again when I need more detail on a particular part. A lot of the info in it you can get by combining a whole bunch of other sources. Alert is a great kit, hope you enjoy it. @mtbediz your scratch build is pretty awesome. Thanks for stopping by.

would any 5 ,minute epoxy do or do you recommend a particular brand?

Log #29: Blackening and Bending As I hinted at in my previous log, I decided to give blackening some of the brass parts a try. I had not had much success with painting them and I figured particularly for the eyebolts it would be a bit of a pain to paint them all. So I took a scrap piece of brass, bought a min crock pot from the good will store and embarked on making some tests. I was following along with @dvm27’s guide and everything appeared to go well. The only difference with my method is that I used vinegar and salt for an hour instead of sparex for 10 minutes. I don’t have a dedicated work space and so the blackening had to happen in my kitchen. I had done some reading on pickering online and this seemed like the best alternative. Everything went smoothly and and just as described in the guide I was able to wipe off the residue leaving a even black finish. However, When it came time to attach them to the model I started to have issues. The rudder hinges (can’t remember the proper name) are very small and fiddly and getting them in just the right place was difficult. I also found when using super glue to attach them I ran into two issues. The blackening adhered to the super glue better than to itself so I found I was constantly loosing bits of the coating to errant bits of super glue on my hands or tools. The super glue when in contact with the blackening seemed to cure almost instantly. This is a strange thing I have noticed with super glue. On some surfaces it takes a long time to cure and others it happens almost instantly. In any case this made placing the pieces just right very difficult as if I did not place them exactly in the right place the first time I didn’t have time to adjust their position and I would inevitably loose some of the coating. Has anyone had similar issues? Should I have varnished them before attaching them to the model? In any case with a bit of touching up and some black paint I was able to get everything looking ok. I have also been working on some of the fittings. Following the example of @Blue Ensign I decided to try and make the hatches curved and also to do a skylight as depicted in the marshal painting rather than just use a hatch. I soaked the hatch in hot water for 30 minutes then used a rubber band to attach it to a bottle and left it to dry overnight. Using scraps from one of the laser cut sheets and left over brass pins I was able to make a passable skylight. Once I have it painted I plan to add clear acrylic on the inside to simulate glass panes. And here is the current status of the hatch and skylight.

Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions. I went to my local hardware store and picked up some of the shrink tube. As you can see below it works perfectly.

Looking good. Make sure you tape off the keel and stern post with painters tape before you sand or at the very least be careful. I was not watching what I was doing and significantly thinned my stern post. It may be the perspective, but it looks like you have sanded the stern post a bit (like I did) so if you have more sanding to do here watch you don't think it anymore.

I have never heard of this stuff, do you describe the process in more detail in your alert log, I don't remember seeing that. Where do you normally find it, what is it normally used for? There is still time to add the top band and the bottom one wouldn't be seen anyways. If I went with the card option, @VTHokiEE do you do anything to the card make it look less like paper?

Log #28: The Rudder It has been a very long time since I updated this log. The reasons have been a combination of factors, but the main underlying reasons have been a lack of time and I was unsure how to proceed. So I was picking away at things, but didn’t have enough progress to really show here. In any case I am hopefully back on track and I hope that the next entry will not take as long to come as this one did. For the rudder I wanted to try and modify it a bit from the kit to align more with the plans in Goodwin. I briefly considered scribing the various joints, but given how my last attempt at that went, and the only alternative being to reconstruct the whole rudder from scratch, I decided to largely stick with the kit as is. The only modification I made was to the tiller and how it joined the rudder. After assembling the rudder and the tiller as indicated in the instructions, I filled in the cap on the rudder where the two were meant to join and then carefully cut out the appropriate joint. I had planned to also add the iron bands that are just above and below the joint, but shaping the scrap brass to fit exactly right was very hard and given my issues with super glue and blackened PE parts (which I will cover in my next log), I decided to skip this step. I also attempted to shape and round the tiller so it went from angled where it joins the rudder assembly to round where it would be held by the helmsman.

That was a really useful post. They all look great. I assume the benefit of making the rings/eye bolts from scratch this way as opposed to just using off the shelf ones (eg amati ones) is you can carry the size in line with what was historically used?

Looks fantastic, great job on the planking.

I use an iwata hp-cs (eclipse). I have nothing but good things to say about it. The main brush has a 0.3mm nozel, but you can order a replacement nozzle and and needle in the 0.7mm size which I find works better if I am using primer or want to cover a much broader area. If you want a budget option that won’t break immediately you could look into the iwata neo. It is not the same quality as the eclipse, but it does the job (i have a friend who uses one, mostly for priming and varnishing). You can pick it up for under $100 (Canada).

I know the feeling, I have too many hobbies (chess, model making, miniature painting, etc…) and time for less than one due to all the other commitments. Keep at it, the jig is a good idea.

Awesome work, well done

I am going to second the advice from @Oldsalt1950. I ran into a bunch of issues with my planking which directly related to me not fairing enough. You can test if things are fared properly by laying a test strip across the bulkheads at various point to make sure things are lying right. Particularly at the bow and the stern getting this right will save you a lot of grief later on.

Acrylic paint is made up of 3 components: pigment, binder (the stuff that makes it dry into plastic) and water. Essentially what you are doing is adding more binder. The binder is what primarily gives the paint the sheen (matte vs gloss) and so if you add a matte binder then it will make your paint more matte. Personally when painting if I need to thin my paint a lot then I add both water and a medium. The reason is that if you add too much water then there is not enough binder in the mixture and the paints starts to separate. In general water will make it more translucent and make the final dried layer be thinner. Binder will make the dried layer a bit thicker, but just with less pigment for a given area. In your case it appears that the type of paint you are using is high on pigment and low on binder and water. This means that the amount of thinning you have to do to make it look good at scale likely necessitates at least a bit of medium for best results. Ultimately as you noted the best thing to do is play around with the proportions and find what works for you as it depends a lot on what paint you are using etc… The only hard and fast rule I would suggest is don’t add much more than 2 parts water to paint without also adding some sort of medium to ensure your paint doesn’t break down. Great work, it is looking really good.

Great job @hollowneck everything has come together on this. The water is some of the most impressive I have ever seen. You should be very proud of your work.

This is fantastic Ron, you make me want to try a diorama some time. I do a lot of model painting and that pink foam stuff is fantastic, I use it all the time. One question I have which isn't clear to me is how solid your water shape is. You seem to leave a lot of space under the foil material. Is the subsequent plaster layers enough to make this sturdy or do you reinforce it in some other way?

Its looking really good Ron.

Great job, congrats on completing such a large project and as everyone else has said thanks for bringing us along on the journey with you.

I agree, I think it looks better without them where you are going for navy board style.