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Jim Lad
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Cat Head dimensions
Jim Lad replied to BANYAN's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Pat, Re the "near vertical sloping long beam aft of the cathead", I don't know what it is; but there seems to be a line running forward from it and sloping up. Is this any clearer on the original? John -
Just catching up, mate! She's coming along very well indeed. John
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Gil, Just catching up after not looking in for a while. She's really looking the cat's pyjamas, mate! John
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Thanks, Nils! John
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Yes, Ollie, simply check the waterline from the plans. In the meantime, be aware that the copper plates should overlap each other. John
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McGregor's lines plan was drawn up from the builder's table of offsets, so should be accurate. John
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Harriet McGregor by Boccherini
Jim Lad replied to Boccherini's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Floyd (and others interested in her history), the Harriet McGregor was built in Hobart, Tasmania in in 1870 by John McGregor and owned by his brother John McGregor. She was named for the owners wife and, as a consequence, was maintained in superb condition - to such an extent that she became known as 'the Tasmanian yacht.' She maintained a liner service for McGregor for 25 years, sailing from Hobart for London each December and arriving back in Hobart in July. Harold Underhill has researched her voyages and found that she maintained an uncanny reliability in her voyage times. Of seven consecutive voyages to London that Underhill studied in detail, her round voyage times varied by only 16 days! Between the London voyages, the Harriet sailed to Mauritius each year. In 1895 she was sold to Danish owners and re-named Water Queen. She was lost by fire on her first voyage for her new owners. For such a small ship (length 134 feet) sailing around the world via Cape Horn for a quarter of a century, she had a remarkable safety record, having lost only one man in all that time! John -
Your model's already looking like a beautiful lady, Nils. Looks like another major change in 1951 was the addition of cargo derricks. John
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Paul, David McGregor's 'The Tea Clippers' has a couple of pages about the ship and small hull lines, deck plan and sail plan, although the deck plan has been entirely reconstructed using available evidence. It might also be worth your while contacting the Melbourne Museum (Australia) as they have the Cyril Hume model of Thermopylae. This is a link to the Hume model in Melbourne: http://museumvictoria.com.au/collections/items/397490/sailing-ship-model-clipper-Thermopylae John
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Cat Head dimensions
Jim Lad replied to BANYAN's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Pat, I think the answers to both your questions is somewhat along the same lines as,"How long is a piece of string". It's strange that there aren't other clear contemporary illustrations of this important ship. If all the evidence that you have so far indicates that the design of the catheads was upward sloping, then why not use the design of other contemporary naval ships as the basis. As for the whisker booms - merchant practice was for the booms to be on the after side of the cathead with simple thumb cleats for the rigging to pass over. They were generally just long enough for the head rigging to clear the clutter around the forecastle. Not much help, I know, but there comes a time when you have to stop beating your head against a brick wall and just build the model. The art of good research, of course, is to know when to stop beating and start building. John -
I wouldn't have expected anything else, Alexandru! John
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Harriet McGregor by Boccherini
Jim Lad replied to Boccherini's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
That looks very nice work, Grant. John -
Tom, The Mermaid was a Government survey cutter working on coastal surveys in what was then a very remote corner of the world. They only needed weapons to protect themselves against possible attacks from people in canoes or lightly built coastal sailing craft. John
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Old furniture is a great source of model making timber, Antony. The junky style of second hand furniture shops is also a great way to pick up good timber. John
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I haven't any information on the actual number of guns she carried, Ollie, but she wouldn't be heavily armed. Even some of the English revenue cutters, which went to sea expecting to have to fight heavily armed smugglers, sometimes only carried two or four carronades. I think sticking with the number of kit supplied guns, would be fine. John
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Ollie, Guns were needed in the north as defence against Maccassan pirates or to put the 'frighteners' on any native peoples who were encountered and proved to be unfriendly. John
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It's great to see more progress, Russ! John
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Bob, 'Standard camber' is 1/4" per foot of beam, but how many ships were built with 'standard camber' is another question! John
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Ollie, King was an experienced naval officer; King commanded the Mermaid; King painted your picture - I wonder whose interpretation of the Mermaid you should trust? John
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