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Pardon, just another offtopic Not so much to tell about the build itself, holidays, no time to build... Spending New Year holidays with my parents in St.Petersburg, Russia, where I visited the construction site of 1712 frigate replica, Poltava. Some links: http://poltava1712.ru/node/73 https://twitter.com/Poltavawarship https://www.facebook.com/poltavaship https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ-9kJyalp7_pm72J4Yb9_Q The construction is sponsored by the symbol of russian corruption and inefficiency - Gazprom Project has quite a fat funding, and there are around 100 carpenters working on the hull right now. The big hangar here is the place where hull is assembled: Wood storage (oak): Interesting fact that wood is not dried or aged - instead, they make everything just from the "green" wood, but later apply some chemicals to reduce the moisture level and prevent rot. Unfortunately, I could not find out the names of the chemicals. The engineers of the replica faced the same problem as Peter I, the russian emperor who was managing the construction of the original ship. It is extremely hard to find a big enough oak tree in a good condition, without any major defects or rot. The wood for that ship is purchased from a very wide region, basically all european part of russia. To workaround it, some really heavy parts (like keel structure) are assembled using a laminated, multi-layered slabs of wood. It is close to impossible to find an oak of that size nowadays... You can imagine how hard it was to find and process such a wood in 1712! I was surprised that you can laminate and glue a part that will carry such load and weight.
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Nope, I got released from the summerhouse, so switched to other stupid teenage activities
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The build is going slow so far - had guests, then few trips, had no chance to build for some weeks. But progress is quite boring anyway - producing frame by frame. Found a thing in my parents' basement - a model that I tried to build when I was around 12 years old. Locked in a summerhouse, with some plywood, sandpaper and a manual scroll saw ok, I also had a book and some blueprints. Full scratch, I had no internet at that time, and havent heard of any kits. No modelling societies aither. Looks veeery ugly, but hey, the only tool was a manual scroll saw. Planks were also cut with a scroll saw: draw a straight line, cut the wood, smoothen with sandpaper. If only I can have soooooooo many free time as I had when I was 12...
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Ok, got the toy: http://www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/27060.php Thanks everybody for the comments, now making a straight and correctly angled edges is soo easy! And it will definitely help with making a keel parts that tightly fit together
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The most silent disk sander
Mike Y replied to Mike Y's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Ok, sanding block is not precise enough, and takes a very long time to sand.. So bought Proxxon 125 disk sander: http://www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/27060.php I am really happy with it, and it is very quiet on a low speed! Surprisingly. I literally used it while my wife and kid were sleeping in a next room. Wow! So I think I answered my own question... It is the cheapest disk sander, and also extremely quiet (on a low speed, that is more then enough for gentle woodwork). -
Hi Daniel, Thanks for sharing, those are very interesting kits! Especially pleasing to see such a big selection of Viking ships. Best wishes, hope you will get lots of happy customers here! Minor piece of a feedback: it would be probably better to center photos in catalogue so the hull is in the center. Right now for most models the big part of hull do not fit into the small picture:
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Very very nice! Especially the pins to put that tricky piece in place
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Thanks Grant, Alan, Brian, Greg and Gary! I was not sure if I really need it, but now after all your feedback - there is no doubt! Looks like I know what to order from Santa this Christmas!
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Cutting frames... Using belt sander to make sure that edges of frame blanks are straight. it is not very suitable for that job, but do not want to buy disk sander just for that.. In a meanwhile, looked critically on a laser cut keel. It has some grey spots (that are not dirt, but wood defects) And some funny shaped "stain" inside the wood right on the stem: And more important - it looks too simplistic / unrealistic for my taste. You really can't build a ship with a stern made of two giant pieces of wood. I miss a complex joints, tar simulation using black paper, etc.. Stem would be very visible, and it should be done right. So decided to re-do it using new pear (to match the colour of the frames) Since I had no drawings of keel structure for exactly that ship - I made a mix based on some photos from other build logs, AOTS book about Pandora, etc. Loooots of sanding ahead! Maybe I really need a proper disk sander
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Piet, I was missing that impressive log for some reason.. A week ago I found it! Very impressive atmosphere here, and excelent historical / family details. Thank you, enjoyed reading it. It is like a good book! Best wishes with the continuation of the build!
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Remco, your bet is spot on - after I tried Castello on my previous build (see longboat) - can't use any inferior wood anymore P.S.: next update would be in a few weeks, started a batch of 10 frames
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John, as far as I know, Hahn did have any rigging plans for Oliver Cromwell. So you will need to do some research, like finding a similar frigate with rigging plans (for example, Pandora is quite close, and there is Anatomy Of The Ship book for it). There is a very little documentation about Oliver Cromwell, so I doubt you can find a precise rigging plans...
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Tried Arkowood (https://www.arkowood-lossburg.de/). Was looking for a high quality wood supplier in EU, who have at least pear, Castello boxwood and ebony. Looks like I found it! Wood quality: Colour variation - very small, wood is finely selected. Thickness deviation: not more then 0.05mm! Finish: very smooth finish, feels like sanded with 300-400 grit. Other: Custom size milling: no problem with that, if you do not see the right size in their catalogue - just mail what sizes do you need. The price level for custom milled wood looks the same as for the standard cuts they have in catalogue Communication: excellent, I received a reply to my mails in a few hours! Wood cost - looks ok. Hard to compare, but looks on the same level as in US suppliers. However, you save some money on not paying VAT, customs, postage fees and extra shipping, that you are usually paying if ordering from US Payment methods: paypal is accepted. Delivery cost: quite moderate, regular postage price from Germany to other EU country. No feeling like you are getting overcharged for delivery. Processing time: they promised 1-2 weeks, I got the wood in 2 weeks. So quite fast, with correct estimations Packing quality: ok, no damages The photo of what I received. Left - swiss pear (steamed pear), center - castello boxwood, right - ebony:
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Hooray! Received my new wood for frames. The colour variation is much smaller. Arkowood one is creamy and pink. Same colour as on Lumberyard laser cut parts, where the "prime grade" pear is used. Maximum thickness deviation is around 0.05mm (0.002 inches). My micrometer have a 0.05mm precision, so it is basically as correct as I can measure.. Number of planks with defects (grey spots, etc) - 5 planks out of 60 (just 8%), which is quite ok Wood is already sanded with a fine grit Small wood deviation together with fine finish means a lot of time saved on sanding the frame to the uniform thickness and smooth surface. Planks are perfectly straight and not curved - saves some efforts when trying to cut the frame blanks on a proper angles. But better look on pictures. Both woods are called the same, it is swiss pear aka steamed pear. Box on top - Lumberyard, box in the bottom - Arkowood. Left - Arkowood, right - Lumberyard. Notice the finish difference, Lumberyard wood is very rough, looks like sanded with 60 or 80 grit. Arkowood looks like sanded with 300-400 grit, or maybe even higher. It is very smooth! Also ordered some sheets, just to try. Left - pear, center - Castello boxwood, right - ebony Ok, now I am finally happy with the wood I have, time to redo 9 frames that I already assembled
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HMS Naiad 1797 by albert - FINISHED - 1/48
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Great carving! And an interesting wood color, soft and creamy. Can you tell more about other projects that you have? Looks like you are making three fully framed models in parallel! Wow! -
Looks like I am becoming a hand tools fetishist.. There is something nice about working with a high quality chisels and knifes - no noise, no sawdust, and you feel like making a pinocchio Especially surprised with the knife - it is the sharpest knife I ever held, it make a clean cut without any pressure, and it is heavy and sharp enough to ignore the grain direction! But it reminds that as with any hand tool - you need to practice and learn a lot to use it nicely... The shape of a rabbet was asymmetrical to meet the planks on a proper angle: Result is not perfect, there are a few ooopsies, luckily most of them are on the inner side, which would be invisible. I will not cut a rabbet on a side that would be fully opened. Not able to cut it smooth enough to make it fully exposed.
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Discovered an amazing tool shop that also sells a high quality Swiss made chisels (Followers from Stockholm - it worth to visit Slöjdetaljer, but you probably already know about that place) Got two tiny chisels - one V shaped, one U shaped, and a carving knife. Pricey, but a good quality. Now practicing a lot to be able to hand-cut a smooth curved rabbet, and maybe even draught marks
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Does anybody know where to buy Holly in EU/UK? Or it might be sold under different name? It is also hard to google it, because all search engines are sure that I just did a typo in a word "Hollywood". Facepalm!
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Alan, with your level of planning, I am sure you will end up with an ultra detailed IKEA-style assembly sequence before the construction actually started Thanks for encouragement. I think I will just use brute force - no jigs, just a very slow and gentle carving. No coffee, no beer, steady hand and a lot of practice before. Hate that things, it is no longer a technological process, but more of an art.. You do not need an art if the process is good!
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Mark, you are totally right - rabbet follows the shape of the keel, I should have carved it before gluing the stem. You see on a photo that rabbet pencil marks are parallel to the glue line bonding keel and stem. But now it is too late, I did a classic mistake of gluing parts too early Will try to make it with a template.
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ancre La Belle 1684 by Nenseth - 1:36 scale
Mike Y replied to Nenseth's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
You will sand it anyway, which will also remove the glue stains. Also, try applyin less glue, and remove excess with some stick as fast as possible. What glue are you using? Realy recommend to try an orange Cascol for indoor use, it should be available in all Nordics. Bonds pretty fast, very strong. Do not leave colored stains, could be easily dissolved with water if needed. It is just perfect
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