keelhauled

Nenad,

what scale are your working in?

Thanks

Marc

First actual rigging!  The bowsprit is now permanently connected to the ship.  Exciting and scary!

I had it temporarily attached earlier, but now the chain and eyes are epoxied in place

The size of the chain made this a pain!  But i think it looks good.

real ship for comparison

historic photos and photos before the restoration have the lines connecting the hearts with a dark tar.  so I used the black line.

Hi Nenad, 

I was just looking at the original specifications for the Cutty.  The original specifications for the cutty have listed under "No.68 Carpenter’s and Boatswain’s Stores". "1 Teak accommodation ladder with Crane complete."  So it looks like the ladder was always on the ship.  I know it was on the starboard side before the restoration.  No info on the anchor davits.  But it also didn't have specific details about the anchors.

Marc

Nenad,

really nice work!   I think that you note it in your reply about the accommodation ladder.  not only is the ladder mentioned with the detail of the davit in the elevation plan, but in the deck plan just below the elevation plan with the davits the ladder is shown attached on the starboard side and then the outline of the ladder is shown on the starboard drawing just belwo the deck plans on the same sheet (general arrangement).

Marc

Thanks Popeye and Nenad!  I appreciate the feedback.

Nenad, I did make a pair of anchor davits and the corresponding fixtures on the fore castle per Campbells plans.  However, Longridge says that she didn't have them and I haven't been able to find a photo with them in place.  If you have a photo with them could you send it to me?  I haven't made up my mind whether to add one or both to the ship. they are built and just have to be rigged.  If I add one it will probably be with the outboard anchor, like they are waiting to pull it on deck.

Thanks!

Marc

more anchor work. I decided to stow one anchor outboard and the other inboard.  This wouldn't be unusual when heading out to open water or coming into a harbor.  

Here is the inboard anchor.  I used drawings and historic photos of the cutty and Longridge's book.

and here is the outboard anchor

The real one for comparison

The outboard anchor was only temporarily mounted so that I could remove it and continue rigging the ship

Marc

I own both the proxxon KS 230 and the Byrnes.  There is no comparison, and I wouldn't even try to explain the difference.  I will say that you can mill very thin pieces of wood the KS 230 with two simple alterations.  I used a couple pieces of tape around the blade to prevent the wood from being sucked into the hole.  Second was I glued a piece of wood to the fence so that there was no space between the fence and the table surface.  Also the wood glued to the fence stopped just past the beginning of the blade to prevent any kickback or binding.  I made pieces smaller than 1/32 of an inch.

Here's the real issue with using this saw.  repeatablity.  if you move the fence, you'll never be able to get the same width at that small of a scale.  That is where the Byrnes with it's micrometer attachment blows this saw away and why I ended up getting the Byrnes in the end.  

However, the proxxon is a good saw  if you are only ripping that width once and you don't have to repeat that width exactly again.  If that is the case, Then that $130 dollar saw will shine with those alterations.

Just be aware the the proxxon's fence moves when you tighten it and if you need those boards to be exactly 1.0mm it will take some time (and wood) to set it up.

Marc

Thanks Henry!  

I've been pondering that question for awhile. I didn't see an advantage of using a tail verses just dealing with easing one set of lines, while hauling the other set.  But it now makes sense, especially if you think of the limited crew on a clipper.

Thanks again

Marc

thanks Nenad.  I appreciate your input

Thanks Nenad

Thanks Nenad,

I appreciate your thoughts.  I've been thinking this over for some long period of time.  It appears you have as well.  So far, I think it makes sense to put it between the boats on the skids on the aft deck house.

Marc

Thanks Popeye!

Nenad,

Are you going to build the accommodation ladder that is used on the side of the hull to get down to the ships boats when they are in the water?  

If I remember correctly you are rigging sails.  Do you know where they stowed the accommodation ladder while underway? Was it on the boat skids, below in the hold...?  I wondered if you had come across a reference to it.

thanks

Marc

Thanks Henry,

So how would they move the tail line from the tack to sheet position, by carrying it across the ratlines and shrouds?

Thanks

Marc

Hi,

So I have a question and need help.

I want to rig my cutty sark close hauled.

Longridge says that the fore coarse sail had a tack block hooked to the eye on the cat and shackled to the corner of the sail and that the sheet block would have been removed and stowed beside the bulwark behind the fore pin rail.  And that the other side of the fore coarse would have the sheet attached and the tack block unhooked and stowed on the forecastle.  It also said that there was a tail rope permanently shackled to the corners of both sides of the coarse to control the sail as the tack blocks and sheet blocks were being added and removed during tacking.

So is this correct.  Did they actually switch out the sheet and tack blocks on the course sails during tacking?  It seems unnecessary, why not leave both connected all of the time as I see on modern square rigged ships?  Also how did the tail rope work?  I could see it working to bring the sail forward to attach the tack if it was always running forward to the forecastle.  But then it wouldn't be in the correct position to help pull the said inboard to attach the sheet.  What am I missing?

Thanks

Marc

I have a question about stowage of the accomodation ladder here:

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13960-question-cutty-sark-accommodation-ladder-stowage/

feel free to join in!

I haven't built the accommodation ladder yet.  do you think I should include it or not?  Since the ship is being modeled under way it would be stowed if I include it.  But where to put it?

beautiful ladders!  lot's of progress!  very exciting!

I tried finding photos of the cutty's boat skids from when she was in service

Here is a photo of her mored to a pier.  It looks like there is something that has the shape of the accommodation ladder.

Here is a photo of the accommodation ladder with the same deck house  for comparison

Do you think that it is the accommodation ladder on the boat skids in the 1st photo?

marc

Very nice Nenad !  You and I seem to build two of everything.  Actually, you tend to build more than two of everything.  But yours gets better every time!

How are you enjoying your new office?

Take care,

Marc

awesome to see piggy at home!

In case you haven't heard George Lakie, aka glakie passed on.

He was always supportive of me both in this forum and others, as well as private messages.  I used to kid him about his power tool collection which seemed to grow constantly.

I'll miss his support, suggestions, feedback and humor.

You can see others that he touched:

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13935-rip-george-lakie-glakie/page-2

Marc

Nenad,

always looking good.  Your sail lockers are actually chicken coupes.  The chickens keep piggie company, if he ever comes around again.

Sorry to hear about George.  He was indeed a great supporter to all of us. He will be missed.

Take care,

Marc

Thanks John.  

Hi,

I read that the Cutty Sark's accommodation ladder was removed and stowed when she was underway.  It makes sense if you see how it is attached (hook and eye).

What I haven't been able to find is where the ladder was stowed.

Anyone know?

Thanks

Marc

The office is looking good.  Hothead seems to know what he's doing.  I like hiding the wire in the molding.  Great Idea!