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Hi Dave
OMG it was so hard getting the guns to look right at 1:51 scale on my build, and I spent hours trying to get them right, but at 1:60 it will be harder, especially geting the blocks and ropes to look right, and I just gave up on the wheels, just too small to matter. Here's a better pic of another restored Endeavour cannon for your reference. BTW that pic you posted of the cannon in the ANMM is rigged wrong - the recoil rope should be through the other ring that the tackle is hooked to.
Keep up the good work mate
Cheers
Steve
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Maybe it's not a coincidence Dafi that the Pollard system was introduced in 1771 the year of the Endeavour refit, they might have used the Endeavour as a test case to trial the new system.
I agree that this has been a very interesting discussion, I wish there was more like this especially on the other disputed details about the Endeavour
Cheers
Steve
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Robin
They are both dated July 1768, the writing is slightly different, one is annotated a copy. They must have made more than one at the same time. Didn't have printers and photocopiers back then and I suppose they would have needed more than one plan, perhaps one to use and one to keep as a record.There may have been several copies made
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Hi again
In answer to one of Cabbie's comments, if you have a close look at the pic I posted previously there is a hinge at the top of the rudder post level with the deck.
Here is pic of how I set up the tiller on my Endeavour if it helps. I would ignore that arc on the plan, doesn't make sense.
Cheers
Steve
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Dashicat
I'm intrigued by that last sheer plan you put up showing the Endeavour as she was before refit and the proposed changes. I have a copy of plan 3814b and it is different, on mine the badge window shows the carving details and a few other details are different.
Anyway this pic of the draught shows the bracket where the tiller joins the rudder, a slight upward curve of the tiller. but nothing to suggest what that arc is on the original plan you put up.
That plan with the arc is the a planmade after Cook's voyage with different cabin arrangements proposed, it also has an extra scuttle on the forecastle. It also has the drum aft of the helm.
Cheers
Steve
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Hi Dave
You should blacken the chains rather than paint them, as you say they scratch easily when painted. Blackening also looks more realistic, and the solder should blacken okay.
Cheers Steve
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Hi Dave
At least we have the luxury now of being able to purchase great looking blocks from the likes of Chuck at Syren. When I built my AL Endeavour I used those ugly square ones that came with the kit and I individually sanded each one to the correct shape and varnished them - a lot of work.
Cheers
Steve
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Nice work Ron. Did you do the X stitching on the spritsail? I can't remember seeing it on the sails I got with mine, I must go look.
I remember when I made my first endeavour i used some old I white sheets to make the sails then after a few years of us smoking in the house (back in those days!) they were dingy brown from nicotine stain.
Cheers Steve
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Yes Pat I think they look better. I tried to trim the ends at the fore and aft shrouds as close as possible. The "stand-off" look is much better, sometimes us modellers get obsessed with detail and forget that if it looks good from a couple of feet away its fine.
Cheers
Steve
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After my yeah/nah debate with myself a few weeks ago I have now decided nah.
I did quite a few ratlines with simulated splices and tying them to the fore and aft shrouds. The main problem was the linen thread I was using refused to stay tightly clove hitched around the shrouds, hence the whole thing looked untidy.
I switched to slightly thinner cotton thread and decided to just clove hitch on the fore and aft shrouds.
HMB Endeavour tiller and steering question
in Discussion for a Ship's Deck Furniture, Guns, boats and other Fittings
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Hi Dashicat
They did indeed do repairs to ironwork. They were not called blacksmiths but armourers. Here is a passage from Cook's Journal at Tahiti:
"Tuesday, 18th. Cloudy weather with some showers of rain. This morning took as many people out of the Ship as could possibly be spared, and set about Erecting a Fort. Some were employ’d in throughing up intrenchment, while others was cutting facines, Picquets, etc. The Natives were so far from hindering us that several of them assisted in bringing the Picquets and facines out of the woods, and seemed quite unconcern’d at what we was about. The wood we made use of for this occasion we purchased of them, and we cut no Tree down before we had first obtained their Consent. By this time all the Ship’s sails were unbent and the Armourer’s Forge set up to repair the Ironwork, etc. Served fresh Pork to the Ship’s Company to-day for the first time."