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Hi Max

Here are a couple of pics of my AL Endeavour with sails that may clear things up for you.

You can see that the clew lines run aft of the sail, whereas the bunt lines run down the front of the sails

Cheers

Steve

Hi Pat

Here are pics of the badge window on the draughts of Earl of Pembroke before conversion to the Endeavour, and later draught showing same shape but less detail. They clearly show that the window was angled upwards, meaning that the shutters would swing open just like Parkinson sketched them. Those badges in the AL kit are wrong, sorry. I turfed mine when I built the AL and made wood ones the correct shape.

Cheers

Steve

Hi Dave

Nice work, especially at 1:60.

More on the bowsprit: I have a set of books on ships that were published in 1980, well before Marquardt's book and the building of the replica. The books are quite good and obviously written by maritime experts. The Endeavour is depicted in this picture with both the taller mizzen and the longer bowsprit, and it looks like a typical sailing ship.

Cheers

Steve

Yes Pat I agree with Greg, if they look pretty right leave them. Yours still look a lot better than the chunky pieces of wood I got with my AL Endeavour. Sorry for posting my pics on your build log, I will delete after you see it.

(But if you do want bigger beads try your local Spotlight store they sell lots of different beads for jewellery making)

Hi Pat, looking good

Re the parrals, here is a page from "The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships" describing them in better detail. The drawing in AOTS is very misleading.

Cheers

Steve

Greg

Yes the cutters are great, I got them from Jaycar Electronics, you can buy them onlne from Jaycar if you don't have one closeby

Steve

Thanks Paul

Pat, here is a pic of the cutters I use, they do a really clean cut and you can get in really close with them

Cheers

Steve

Pat, Mike

Yeah Nah, thats exactly what I thought too Mike. I have no problem tying the clove hitches, over the years I have become quite adept at tying knots with tweezers. For the ratlines I am using linen thread I got from a sewing shop, its different and thicker than cotton and just the right diameter, it isnt fuzzy and forms nice neat "spliced eyes" by folding it over with a tiny drop of pva glue to hold the end and form an eye. I use the thinner cotton to tie the eye to the shroud and if trimmed close its really neat. I use a precision electronics wire cutter for trimming, brilliant. For all my rigging work and other small stuff I put a small amount of PVA glue into a small tray or stubby lid and use a piece of copper wire to apply a small drop of glue to the article. After a while you form a small mountain of dried glue, when I built my last ship I had a glue mountain about 20 mm high!!

Cheers

Steve

Haha thanks Dave, I've been off for two weeks and only got to the ship today.

Haven't been very motivated to do much on the ship lately, until today. Continuing with the ratlines, made a real task for myself by electing to simulate the eye splices at each end of the ratline, but at least they look more realistic.

Hi Pat

Here is a pic of the spritsail net on the de-rigged replica, if it helps

Steve

Hi Dave

Re the tiller

Here is a pic of how I set my tiller up, I didn't fit blocks to the tiller like shown in the AOTS, I set it up like the full size replica. I cannot get my rudder to go hard over but I don't think it would foul with the chimney.

The other pic is from the April 1768 draughts showing the "arch", its also shown on two other draughts so the arch definately exists.

Cheers

Steve

I started on the ratlines today

Nice work Dave, I did the same thing two different style pumps for the reason you stated. Actually the original pumps are shown on the draughts done before the refit, and their position is shown on the deck plans. In the photo you can see the pumps on a ship model from the same period as Endeavour, they look similar to the ones on the draughts.

Haha yes Paul I did exactly the same thing, when I was a teenager I spent a couple of weeks building a free flight glider. First flight I towed it up like a kite using a fishing line. It got into a thermal and just kept going up up and away, never saw it again despite chasing after it in a car with my dad.

Anyway heres a pic of the ship, ready to fit the ratlines

Yes I did the same thing, spent a week building my first plane went out to fly it and crashed it in about 5 seconds. After a few crashes I got the hang of it, then a couple of years later I stepped up to radio control and same thing, a few crashed planes before I got good at it. It's a hobby that gives you lots of building practice.

Hi guys

Sorry my memory failed me, it was a couple of years ago, it wasn't Spakfilla, it was an acrylic filler in a tub that I bought from Bunnings. Similar thing, plaster based

Thanks clogger

I chose the colour scheme for a couple of reasons. I wanted my Endeavour to look like like an 18th century Admiralty model, hence the fairly light shade of the side planks and no white bottom. I also studied lots of old paintings of ships of this period in the 18th century. Marquardt In the AOTS book states that the bottom was covered in "brown stuff" not painted with white lead, so in that respect painting the bottom of the hull would be wrong anyway.

A lot of Endeavour builders try to make them look like the full size replica vessel, but I am not. Its the builder's choice.

For filler on the first planks I used spakfilla, I sanded the first planks fairly agressively (thats what theyre for) so I only needed to use filler where there were depressions. See pics below.

Cheers

Steve

Thanks Mike

I wondered why you hadn't posted in a while. I used to make those plastic aeroplane models, and ships, even rockets and a lunar module when I was a kid, yeah the painting is the hardest part. That led me into the flying planes, building balsa wood planes and crashing them a lot. Then I built a couple of larger plastic ship models, the Revell USS Consitution, and the Revell Cutty Sark. I still have the Constitution. My mum still has the small scale plastic ships I built as a kid on her wall unit -theres a Mayflower, Bounty, Constitution and Victory.

Cheers

Steve

Its been a few weeks since I did anything, but I managed to get a few hours in this weekend. Finished doing the mizzen catharpins and futtock shrouds then I blackened the rest of the shrouds. I used flat black enamel diluted with turpentine to make it wick through the rope better and not be too black so it looks nore like real tarred rope

Have a look through my build log there are a few photos of my shrouds being done, might help.

Cheers

Steve

Hi Chris

As Paul said the Endeavour is a hard hull to plank because of the boxy shape. If you look at my build log on page 1 and 3 you will see that I needed to use a lot of stealers and tapered planks. The top layer planks are thin so they don't like curving laterally, therefore I just let them lay how they best could on the darker lower planks.

For the sides above the main wale I wanted to simulate the upwards curve of planks on a real ship and it was a real task, when you try to curve them laterally they want to kink and buckle and it's hard to keep them flat against the hull until the glue sets. I had to use lots of clamps to keep the planks from buckling, fitting one plank at a time then waiting for the glue to set.

Cheers

Steve

Hi Chris

I have always planked my models starting at the main wale and working down, letting the lay of the planks determine where to trim or use stealers

Cheers

Steve

Hi Dave

Nice work. About the belaying pins, even at 1:51 scale its hard to get wood ones that don't look too fat. I purchased some brass ones and blackened them, not quite the right colour but at least they look better scale-wise because they are thinner

Cheers

Steve

I have built the AL Endeavour and am currently building the partwork equivalent of the Occre. The AL was twenty years ago so the kit has changed a bit. The Occre is bigger in size but the wood and a lot of the fittings are poor quality. If you value the look of nice walnut then the preference is the AL, if you want to paint the model then the Occre may be better.

Cheers

Steve