Kevin

good evening everyone no build time at all this weekend, boooooooooooooo, so before member dietcoke23 tells me off for pointless posts i have a question, or two when did HMS victory stop having extreme after davits, i would like to display my ships boats there, and would the measurements for these be about the same as for the cat heads my reasoning for this is - as i intend to set every sail, i doubt the skid rails would be seen These are not my photo's

Pleasure to help i loved my time on diesel submarines, cramped, damp, smelly, horrible in rough weather, i spent 8 years on Odin - brilliant time

wonderful work, well done

May 19 1652 English fleer under Robert Blake fire on Maarten Tromp's Dutch fleet off Dover starting the First Anglo-Dutch War 1692 Start of Battle of Barfleur, and destruction of ships at La Hogue. A French fleet of 44 ships of the line, under Comte Anne Hilarion de Tourville, engaged an Anglo-Dutch fleet of 82 ships of the line, under Edward Russell. 1745 HMS Superb (60), Commodore Warren, captured Vigilante (58) in Bight of' Louisbourg 1759 George Rodney promoted Rear-Admiral. 1780 British fleet under George Rodney engaged French fleet under Comte de Guichen in the West Indies. 1808 HMS Virginie (38), Cptn. Edward Brace, captured Dutch frigateGuelderland (36), Colonel de mer Pool. 1814 HMS Halcyon Sloop (18), John Marshall, wrecked on reef of rocks in Annatto Bay, Jamaica. 1835 HMS Challenger (28) wrecked on coast of Moquilla, Conception, Chile.

Paul although a British sub and post WW2 - the Oberon class of which i was on Odin had what they called a Q tank, basicly a fwd tank with a quick fill capability, and could also be flooded if resting on the sea bed where it acted like an anchor

May 18 1709 HMS Falmouth (50), Cptn. Walter Ryddell, defended a convoy against 4 French vessels off Scilly 1759 HMS Thames (32) and HMS Venus (32) took Arethuse (36), Marquis Vandrenil, near Audierne Bay 1775 Benedict Arnold captures British sloop George at St. Johns, Quebec, and renames her Enterprise, first of many famous ships with that name 1777 HMS Beaver (14), Cptn. Jones, took American privateer Oliver Cromwell (24), Cptn. Harman, off St. Lucia. 1803 HMS Doris (36), Cptn. R. H. Pearson, captured French lugger Affronteur (14), Lt. Marce Dutoya, off Ushant. 1807 HMS Cassandra (10), Lt. George Le Blanc, foundered off Bordeaux 1808 HMS Rapid (12) ,Lt. Henry Baugh, sunk by batteries in the River Tagus while attempting to cut out two merchantmen. 1809 HMS Standard (74), Cptn. Askew Hollis, and HMS Owen Glendower (36) captured the island of Anholt.

dont give up, a decent pair of pliers with some tape on the ends so as to not mark the brass rod, a a bit of practice, it will work - honest

May 17 1756 HMS Colchester (50), Cptn. Lucius O'Brien, and HMS Lyme (20), Capt. Edward Vernon, engaged Aquilon and Fiddle off Brittany 1795 HMS Thetis (38), Cptn. Hon. Alexander Cochrane, and HMS Hussar (28), Cptn. John Poer Beresford, engaged 5 French flutes Normand, Trajan, Prévoyante,Hernoux, and Raison off Cape Henry, Chesapeake Bay. Raison (18) and Prévoyante (24) were taken. 1800 HMS Railleur (20), Cptn. J. Raynor, and HMS Lady Jane (8), William Bryer, foundered in the English Channel. 1809 HMS Goldfinch (10) engaged Mouche. 1813 Boats of HMS Apollo (38), Cptn. Bridges W. Taylor, and HMS Cerberus (32), Cptn. Thomas Garth, took a vessel near Brindisi.

todays update Window sill on the stern and 1/4 galleries after trying to bend the brass profile under the catheads, i decided to try another approach on the stern and try styrene using 0.5mm x 2mm i have paced one strip horizontal and the 2nd at 90 deg to it, i think for a 1st attempt i might just get away with it still very much work i progress - after all its me - and will need to redo a couple of times before i relise the fist attempt was best this what i am trying to achieve

reposted http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-22447700 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-21745553 Reunion at Loch Ewe for Arctic Convoys veterans

May 16 1760 HMS Lowestoffe (28) sunk in a battle with the French in St. Lawrence. 1803 Britain declares war on France and Nelson appointed Commander-in-Chief, Mediterranean Fleet. 1807 HMS Dauntless (22), Christopher Strachey, surrendered to the French at Danzig after grounding. 1811 USS President (58), Commodore John Rodgers, engaged HMS Little Belt (20), Cptn. Arthur Bingham, off Cape Hatteras. 1813 Boats of HMS Berwick (74), Cptn Edward Brace, and HMS Euryalus (36), Cptn. Charles Napier, took or destroyed 20 vessels at Cavalarie Bay near Toulon. 1820 USS Congress becomes first U.S. warship to visit China

Jerry glad you sorted waterline problem out, all the issues you are finding have been discussed within these forums recently so we are happy to help where we can including the copper tiling

well done, i just had a similar problem on one of my channels, only caught half way through putting the chain plates on

hello everyone I have been quiet on MSW this week, RL and work getting in the way, took day off work just to get on with the build, the stern is taking quite a lot of time to get right, no visit from Murphy to mess it up either, he paid me a visit at the week-end on the last chain plate channel did not realise the problem until 1/2 way through fitting the chain plates themselves found out it was far to low, approx 5mm the Spanish inquisition i carried out revealed i had been measuring from the wale on the plans, but transferred the distance from the painted black band on the build,

May 15 1673 British fleet under Cptn. Richard Munden re-capture the Island of St. Helena. 1759 John Jervis (later Earl St. Vincent) promoted Commander into HMS Scorpion (14). 1771 Midshipman Horatio Nelson transfers to the Triumph (74). 1797 Spithead Mutiny ends 1804 HMS Cruizer (18), John Hancock, HMS Rattler (16), Francis Mason, HMSPenelope (36), Cptn. W. R. Broughton, HMS Antelope (50), Commodore Sir Sidney Smith, and HMS Aimable (32), Cptn William Bolton, engaged Flushing flotilla of 59 vessels (2 praams, 19 schooners and 38 schuyts) off Blankenberg. 1806 HMS Juno (32), Capt. H. Richardson, supported a Neopolitan sortie from Gaeta. 1809 Boats of HMS Tartar (32), Cptn. Jos. Baker, drove ashore and captured a Danish privateer (4) near Felixberg on the coast of Courland. HMS Mercury (28), Cptn. Henry Duncan, bombarded Rotti. 1813 HMS Bacchante (38), Cptn. William Hoste, bombarded Karlebago and destroyed the fort and other defences. 1828 HMS Parthian (10), George Hotham, wrecked near Marabout Island, Egypt.

nice to see you both back, even the post counter has had a break

May 14 1741 HMS Wager (24), Cptn. Dandy Kidd, wrecked on the South coast of Chile 1747 First Battle of Cape Finisterre. 14 British ships of the line under Admiral George Anson attack a French 30-ship convoy commanded by Admiral de la Jonquière and capture 4 ships of the line, 2 frigates and 7 merchantmen, in a five-hour battle in the Bay of Biscay. 1757 HMS Antelope (54), Cptn. Alexander Arthur Hood, drove ashore and wrecked Aquilon (50) in Audierne Bay. 1781 HMS Nonsuch (64), Cptn. Sir James Wallace, engaged Actif (74). 1801 Tripoli declares war against the United States 1807 Boats of HMS Spartan (38), Cptn. Jahleel Brenton, repulsed by a polacca off Nice. 1812 HMS Thames (32), Cptn. Charles Napier, and HMS Pilot (18), Cptn. John Toup Nicholas took 29 vessels at Port Sapri, Calabria. Most were destroyed by a gale during the night.

lol i was fitting a ship to the year and place built, where as the information i found never put this ship as being built there.but the right yeat

Maid of the Loch

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1966-hms-victory-by-muggebigge-caldercraft-scale-172/

one of the tankers destroyed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawise_Giant

May 13 1793 HMS Iris (32), Cptn. George Lumsdaine, engaged Citoyenne Francaise (32) about 6 leagues from Gibraltar in the first action of the war with a French naval ship. 1796 HMS Salisbury (50) wrecked near San Domingo 1798 Boats of HMS Flora (36) cut out Mondavi, 1807 HMS Cassandra (10), Lt. George Le Blanc, lost by upsetting in a sudden squall off Bourdeaux.

it seams so long ago that i was at that stage, getting it right at this stage saves so much time later looking good all the best

Where did the expression "the whole 9 yards come from"? Whole nine yards & dressed to the nines Comment from Howard MacGregor in the Niagara Region of Canada: I was told many years ago that the phrase started in the 19th or maybe 18th century and it had to do with women's gloves that went up to the elbows when they went to gala events such as balls and tea at the palace and that those gloves had nine buttons so some occasions meant they had to "dress to the nines." Comment from Lance: And this, nine yards applies to just the shirt. The more fabric in the shirt, the wealthier you were. It was against the law to wear a shirt made of more material than your class was permitted. Comment from Brian Morris: I have heard that the saying the whole 9 yards comes from WWII days when the aircraft guns had their bullets in strings of 27 feet. When you went through all of your bullets, you went through the whole 9 yards. Comment from David Whyte: Apparently, in early England, an entire load of coal for heating was carried in a container that was nine yards long. Most people could not afford it, but if you could, you would take 'the whole nine yards'. I have no idea of the validity of the story, but it seems reasonable. Comment from Colin: Last night I was having some beers with a few USAF pilots. One insisted that the whole nine yards comes from the B-52. It's bomb-bay is 9 yards long and the phrase would then refer to dropping all the bombs from the bay. Another guy insisted that the phrase comes from WWI when the machine gunners would be issued nine yards of belted-ammunition at a time. Rosemary wrote: I have been sewing for 30 years, and cannot conceive of the largest-size shirt in the fullest possible cut using up more than half that amount! Unless perhaps the fabric is only a yard wide, or even 25" wide, both of which were not unusual in my grandmother's day. (Hence the expression "all wool and a yard wide" - not a cheap wool blend and only 25" wide.) However, it is quite conceivable that an average-size, moderately-tailored trousers, waistcoat, and vest would use up 9 yards. Brad Bellows claims the 9 yards would also include an overcoat, but I don't believe a full-grown man could get all 4 items out of 9 yards of fabric unless the fabric were much wider than is sold today. Lawrence says: I've heard that the whole 9 yards comes from the contents of cement trucks - a full load being 9 cubic yards of cement. Charles B: I was taught that the "Whole Nine Yards" refers to American football. On second down you go the distance for another first down instead of slugging it out for a couple of yards at a time. Bob Bledsoe" This may be a corruption of the Middle English "to then eyne" (to the eyes). I have heard "the whole nine yards" came from the amount of cloth on a bolt. When someone wanted to make sure they had enough cloth the got the "whole nine yards." Robert: from good authority, I hear tell that the phrase comes from the Scottish Kilt. In a proper kilt (including all the pleats) there should be 9 yards of material. Anything less is seen as not a proper kilt. Hence the phrase. 9 yards for a shirt seems a bit much. Charles B: "Dressed to the nines" refers to the theater in Shakespeare's time when the price of a seat depended on how close it was to the stage. The farthest seats were one pence and the closest seats were nine pence. If you sat in the expensive seats you dressed up so as not to look out of place with the other wealthy patrons. Even more from Ron: In most of India the everyday sari worn by women is made of material six yards in length. However, for weddings and special occasions, saris of nine yards are used. Hence, for these special occasions one goes 'the whole nine yards'. This could just be another example of the myriad influences the British inherited by controlling India for two centuries. Ron wrote: I'd just like to add to the confusion of the origin of 'whole nine yards'. In most of India the everyday sari worn by women is made of material six yards in length. However, for weddings and special occasions, saris of nine yards are used. Hence, for these special occasions, one goes "'the whole nine yards." This could just be another example of the myriad influences the British inherited by controlling India for two centuries.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/nineyards.htm