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Posted

For my third build I've decided to resurrect the kit I started about 3 years ago, but gave up on because I found the plan sheets so cluttered and confusing that frustration took the fun out of the build. So after completing the basic hull structure on the inverted skeleton I packed the entire boat up in the box and went on to do Chuck's 18th Longboat and the AL Marie Jeanne instead.  Now that I have several excellent Willie Bennett build logs to use as references, I've decided to give it another try.

 

I've wanted to build a Skipjack model after taking my granddaughter to the Chesapeake Maritime Musuem on St Michaels MD several years back and seeing several examples of these fine Chesapeake Bay work boats.

 

First the box with contents and ship's plans (if you enlarge the photos - last 3 photos below - you'll see what I mean by cluttered).

 

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This is where I left the model when I decided to suspend the build

 

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This is the status so far. Since the below decks structure will be completely covered I chose to not spend a lot of time detailing it and instead installed just enough to strengthen the model. This kit has a tendency to paint one into a corner if not careful. Installing the centerboard was a bit tricky and drilling the holes for the pivot was even more tricky given the side to side clearance and the length of the drill bit. I had to hold the bit in my fingers and rotate it slowing without the aid of a chuck.  And, yes, a few of the deck planks are skewed and not completely perpendicular. I cut the notches in the clamp plank off the model after bending to shape using Chuck's hairdryer heat method  and letting the planks sit clamped for about 36 hours. In some instances I am using butt joints and in others I'm notching the ends to fit into the pre-cut notches in the clamp plank. ("Clamp" is the term used in the plans)

 

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So pull up a barrel, bench, chair, box or whatever and enjoy some popcorn from Sjors popcorn machine (Thanks Sjors ;) ) and join the build.

 

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Posted

Fun build brings back memories. It was my first ever build 27 years ago.

Mark
Phoenix, AZ


Current builds;


Previous builds, in rough order of execution;
Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat.

On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.

Posted

They are nice looking boats. You are off to a good start. Your right about the plans. They are about as cluttered as I have ever seen. I'll sit on my rope coil if you don't mind. :)

The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together.

Al

 

Current Builds:

HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit

Model Shipways Glad Tidings

Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED

Posted

Getting crowded in here.. I'll grab the barrel in back use my binoculars.   :)   Looking good so far, Jack.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Jack, signing in for more fun. I'll join Mark in the back row and sit on a pile of rope lying back there. :)

 

Yikes, those plans are most definitely cluttered. What a mess. :P:huh:

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

Member Nautical Research Guild

Posted

George, Mark J, Al, Joe, Mark, Ken, Gerty, welcome to the build log.  And all those who hit the like button.

 

Yes, the cluttered plans are presenting a major challenge to me and a source of many mistakes and re-do's  but I will muddle thru. Gerty I have been referring to your excellent build log and photos a lot trying to figure out how the pieces fit together.  

 

After a lot of hair pulling I managed to get the planksheer cut to shape and installed, messed up the scarf joints a bit (didn't a lot of wood pieces to spare), the log rail went on with no problems. Found I had some gaps to fill in between the hull side and the planksheer which I took care of with some extra wood scraps planed down to thickness, and some good ole white model filler.  Since it will be covered by paint it won't show.

 

Here's the latest progress photos:

 

 

 

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Posted

Jack,

 

 

 

Yes, the cluttered plans are presenting a major challenge to me and a source of many mistakes and re-do's  but I will muddle thru. 

Chan ann leis a’chiad bhuille thuiteas a’chraobh ...

 

However, you've just laid the ground work for a very smooth deck ... looking real good

 

Cheers

 

(translation off the Gealic: It is not with the first stroke a tree falls)

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

Posted

Budge up Mark & Ken can you please make space for a petit rotund figure, I don't need feeding, not a lover of popcorn. ;)

 

Regardless of the very muddled plans your making a great job so far, just don't look at the plans if your suffering eye strain, they make Amati plans look plain sailing ( pardon the pun ). :)  :)

 

Good luck Jack.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

mobbsie
All mistakes are deliberate ( me )


Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle

 

Completed Builds :-   Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ),  Granado Cross Section 1/48

Harwich Bawley, Restoration,  Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration,  Will Everard 1/67 Billings 

HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft KitHM Brig Badger,  HM Bomb Vessel Granado,
Thames Steam Launch Louise,  Thames Barge Edme,  Viking Dragon Boat


Next Build :-  

Posted

Mobbsie, yes, eye strain is a very definite hazzard with these plans ;)

 

Thanks for the comments and likes everyone.

Posted

Hi Lawrence, thanks for stopping by. Yes, progress has been a bit slow - I seem to keep losing my way in the clutter of the plans -Had to deconstruct and reinstall the head rails for the cut-water. Now I need to find the cross braces for the trail boards in the plans and build them.  More pictures to follow shortly.

Posted

As promised some pictures of the small progress.  Installed the side guards - to bend them I soak them in water for about 12-18 hours then bent them to the hull using a hair dryer for assistant and some screw clamps, left them to sit for 24 hours before I glued them in place. Installed the cut-water, then the head rails. Had to wing it on the trail board cross piece supports.

 

I guess the next thing to install is the bowsprit.

 

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Posted

Great job Jack - and thanks for the kind words .

 

Before long you will be ahead of me and I will then be referring to your fine build log !   :)

Current Build: Willie L. Bennett - Model Shipways

 

Future Interests:  Friendship Sloop - BlueJacket Ship Crafters

                            Cape Cod Catboat - BlueJacket Ship Crafters 

                       

Posted

Don't know about "mastering" them George. I feel like I'm still groping around in the dark. The 3-in-1 printer/copier is getting a lot of workout making copies of small sections. Once I get to the decking I should be able to move along a little better.

Posted

Good work, Jack.  Haven't you heard... "re-do's are the new normal." ?

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Looking good Jack! I don't think I could work with plans like those. Keep up the great work!

-Elijah

 

Current build(s):

Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/

 

Completed build(s):

Model Shipways Phantom

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376

 

Member of:

The Nautical Research Guild

N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society)

Posted

Hi everyone. thanks for the comments and likes.

 

Yes Elijah it is a bit of a challenge dealing with these plans

 

Small Update:

 

Installed the samson post - worked on the bowsprit - needs a little more work I think - as many times as I've read tutorials and watch videos on how to cut an octagonal post I still can't get my mind to visualize the steps and do it right.

 

Installing the decking - feels like I'm building the deck from matchsticks - these "scale" Planks measure 1/16 x 3/32 inches x 22 inches long - progress is sloooow - I'm also having difficulty keeping the planks from skewing off to one side or the other requiring a "wedge steeler" plank to get them back in alignment.

 

Pictures follow:

 

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The "string" in the photo is to keep the dagger-board aka center board from dropping down and getting broken while I'm moving the model around.

Posted

No rush, Jack.  Decking is looking good.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Small Update:

 

I finished planking the deck and as I had feared ran out of wood strips just before completing the entire deck. I anticipated this so I left the section over the center board unplanked - for now - since I may be able to hide most or all of it with the deck houses, cabins, structures, etc.  The second photo below shows the amount of scrap planks I have left to work with.

 

For now I will move on to the deck structures and come back to the deck planking after I have a better feel for how and where the structures will sit. Of course I had to hunt thru the clutter on the plan sheet with a hi-liter pen to find the layout and dimensions for these various structures.

 

Photos below:

 

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Posted

Looking good Jack! :dancetl6:  Did you make those "thumb-screw" clamps yourself, or did you find an outlet that carries them? 

GEORGE

 

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Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn.

 

Member of the Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Those are from Lee Valley - do a search under "Machinist clamps" - they come 2 to a package - just received another shipment this week of 5 packages (10 total) - they work great  but be careful not to put too much stress on the screw threads when clamps, I've stripped two of them already. There metal but the threads are real tiny.

Posted

Thanks Jack! Must be brass threads!  Wonder if they could be re-tapped with a courser thread, and a slightly larger thumbscrew?

GEORGE

 

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Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn.

 

Member of the Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Not brass George, they are magnetic - I stick them to my magnet strips on my work table - the threaded rod is 3/32 inch in diameter - it strips where it passes thru the clamp itself - the threads are very very fine

Posted

George,

Go to EdT's Niaid log.  I think early on he shows how to make them using wood and brass.   And no.. I haven't made any..... yet.

 

 

Jack,

Looking sweet on the planking.  Looks like you got just barely enough left to finish if you want.  I do wish the kit makers would put in "extra" wood to allow for errors and also to give the builder a sense of reassurance.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Jack,

 

She is looking good ... I find it a pitty with these models those deck beams won't be visible after planking ...

 

Cheers

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

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