Timmo Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share #241 Posted April 19, 2014 Judging by those stern gallery badges on he Fly you'll have no trouble Alistair. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share #242 Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) A mass blackening of some upcoming hull ironwork was carried out. I've given up on the dodgy microwaving of solution for heat and use a bowl full of hot water to sit the container of solution in to keep it nice and hot to speed the blackening process. Included in this lot are swivel guns and brackets, sweep port hinges, spanshackles, chainplates and chase port door hinges. Swivel guns attached. The blob at the end of the training handle is painted pva glue. Only one installed for a look. They'll be the last thing put on. A view of the rest of the swivel gun pedestals and sweep port hinges attached. The fore-most sweep ports will be left open. A ring bolt was added to the inside. This wasn't done on the closed ports as it simply can't be seen. This looks delicate and primed for destruction as the build continues but they are surprisingly strong as the hinges are glued a few mm into the hull and edge of the port also provides stability. I'll be prepared for 'I told you so' if I do lose them. Edited April 26, 2014 by Timmo WackoWolf, Kevin, egkb and 9 others 12 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted April 26, 2014 Share #243 Posted April 26, 2014 Hi Timmo I've just been contemplating whether to add lids to my sweep ports. The kit doesn't show them but some contemporary models of similar ships to mine do. You have a very tidy solution there and they look very good - I'll have to keep thinking... Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share #244 Posted April 26, 2014 Minor amendment to the open port- I've changed the ring bolt to hang down instead of defying gravity. Channels are next. fifthace 1 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthace Posted April 26, 2014 Share #245 Posted April 26, 2014 That is some exquisitly neat work there sir! Quote ------------------------------------ Regards, Dominic Current Build: HMAV Bounty by Caldercraft 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris71 Posted April 27, 2014 Share #246 Posted April 27, 2014 Hello Timmo , just saw your build log. Amazing detailed and clean work.A very good job. Dimitris Quote Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share #247 Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) Behold... The outdoor modelling studio! Edited April 30, 2014 by Timmo Aussie048, Ryland Craze, Captain Slog and 1 other 4 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted April 30, 2014 Share #248 Posted April 30, 2014 Hi Timmo - not stolen, just like everything here, happily shared. Great work by you, I could do it outside today too but lack a table for such things. Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share #249 Posted April 30, 2014 Those hinges are in the post Alistair, they should arrive soon. aliluke 1 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted April 30, 2014 Share #250 Posted April 30, 2014 I like the paintwork on the gun carriges Timmo. Very nice. My Granado kit should arrive on my doorstep Thursday, and I can't wait to start her! I'm certainly going to be borrowing some of your fantastic ideas. Timmo 1 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share #251 Posted April 30, 2014 Great to hear Joe. I look forward to following your progress on this fine vessel. I find my mind wandering to possible next projects... Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted April 30, 2014 Share #252 Posted April 30, 2014 Great update shots Timmo, the high standard of your work clearly shines through. A very special Granado this one. B.E. aliluke 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share #253 Posted April 30, 2014 Thanks BE. Too kind. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #254 Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Channels and chainplates under construction. The facing on the outside was 2mm walnut, the 1.5mm recommended in the kit seems too narrow. Facing yet to be trimmed but here is a problem in the offing- one of the sweep ports on the main channel on the starboard side is too far to the rear. As a result it's partially obstructing the chain plate. It's not quite as bad as it appears on the pic as the chain will be slanted further aft but it looks a little awkward compared to the others. The port side is fine but I'm wondering how I got one positioned about 4mm off. Tomorrow I might shave the port lid and hinge off and see if I can shift it forward a couple of millimeters without exposing the port hole. Any other suggestions welcome. Edited May 2, 2014 by Timmo Ryland Craze, Captain Slog, MarisStella.hr and 3 others 6 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted May 2, 2014 Share #255 Posted May 2, 2014 Very nice work there Timmo, those are very interesting deadeye strops, never seen them like that before. I experience exactly the same issue on Snake, its like playing russion roulette, no matter how much you try to get it correct, there seems to be one that doesn't work. I decided not to try any drastic fix simply because the angle of the chains and the different viewing angles mean that it doesn' really jump out at you (and no-one else will notice). In my opinion, its viusually more important to have the chains looking consistent and angled correctly than adjusting them to allow the sweep port to theoretically function. My opinion only. Timmo 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share #256 Posted May 2, 2014 Thanks Jason. That's why I wanted to sleep on it rather than charging ahead with a fix. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share #257 Posted May 4, 2014 Channels unvarnished but pinned on. There are elbow brackets that sit on the tops of the main channels that are provided in the kit as photo etch but it simply looks too thin so they will be fabricated out of kit walnut. Probably ply with the laminated surfaces painted. There's also a couple of pedestal brackets on each side to sit on the main channels. Building beer of the day is a Black Duck Porter from Hawkes Bay Independent Brewery. A London style porter with some decidedly chocolate and coffee tones and possibly a hint of smoke. Nice but a bit syrupy so one is certainly enough. WackoWolf, egkb, MarisStella.hr and 9 others 12 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted May 4, 2014 Share #258 Posted May 4, 2014 Hi Timmo Just rechecked my Granado and you are right: Those elbow/knee pieces are a bit flimsy. However they shouldn’t have to hold much pull from the shrouds. The resulting force on the channels should be directed broadside on through the channels into the ships side; provided the chain plates have a little play and are allowed to find their own balanced position. The said pieces then should only take a little strain when setting up or resetting the shrouds. At least that’s what I still understand from my design lectures– but be warned: My structure work was occasionally a source of wonder for the professor. I was also thinking about that sweep port problem and believe Jason is right. Nobody will notice it – except you. About that beer: In my opinion it’s already hard enough to have to drink it upside down. You shouldn’t aggravate the situation with syrupy consistencies. Try to get hold of a Swiss beer. No chocolate in there – we successfully sell that separately. Cheers (!) Peter Timmo 1 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share #259 Posted May 4, 2014 Thanks Peter. You are right about the brackets. They shouldn't be taking any load all as the channels are very securely pinned. They are not glued yet but are solidly in place even before an application of CA thanks to the brass pins. It's more about aesthetics for the elbows as it's always going to look like PE to me unless timber is substituted. Also the sweep port will stay where it is. With all channels on it's hard to see which one is the problem unless you look harder. As for the beer, all donations gratefully received if you think I'm suffering for choice. Having it flow so freely from the bottle here in the Southern Hemisphere depletes the stocks! Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted May 4, 2014 Share #260 Posted May 4, 2014 Looking very nice Timmo. My Granado kit arrived the other day and I've going through the contents over the weekend. I'm very impressed with the quality. I hope to start on her next weekend, and will be using some of the great ideas I've gotten from your build. Timmo 1 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share #261 Posted May 5, 2014 I'll be looking for that build log Joe. Judging by your Prince your Granado will be a beauty. I hope my rigging comes out as clean as yours. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share #262 Posted May 18, 2014 Minor progress with the chain plates pinned in place. A mast was put in place and some rigging line tied off to give the run of the chainplates. I pulled my old Sherbourne out recently to contribute to a display of my dad's woodwork and boats and noticed I must have fixed the chainplates as per the plans rather than following the rigging line. It's only noticeable on the Sherbourne now I know what to look for but I'm keen to avoid that mistake with Granado. The fleet takes in the last of the autumn sunshine together. aliluke, Captain Slog, Blue Ensign and 15 others 18 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 18, 2014 Share #263 Posted May 18, 2014 Looking great, enjoy the sunshine and that beer I see peeking in the background! Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted May 18, 2014 Share #264 Posted May 18, 2014 Nice work on those chainplates Timmo. The two of them look great there in the sun together! Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share #265 Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Thanks Andy, Joe and others. Andy It's a montieths imperial pilsner. A touch hoppy at 7% but not overly so. Well recommended, along with autumn sunshine, the smell of roasting chicken and kids playing in the backyard...along with ships it's part of my Sunday arvo ritual to make my 'happy place.' Edited May 19, 2014 by Timmo gjdale and egkb 2 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share #266 Posted June 25, 2014 A long time distracted and then rigging guns but here they are. Remaining deck furniture up next including bitts, pumps, QD barricade and the tiller housing. jwvolz, Gregor, egkb and 17 others 20 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted June 25, 2014 Share #267 Posted June 25, 2014 Superb gun rigs there Timmo and all else besides. A long time between drinks but worth the wait! Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 25, 2014 Share #268 Posted June 25, 2014 I agree - absolutely worth the wait! Looking very spiffy there Timmo. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 25, 2014 Share #269 Posted June 25, 2014 Clean, fine and very classy... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted June 26, 2014 Share #270 Posted June 26, 2014 Glad to see an update Timmo. Very nice work on the guns. Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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