Blue Ensign Posted November 23, 2014 Share #301 Posted November 23, 2014 Beautiful work Timmo, your Granado is a class build, I just love it. B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share #302 Posted December 2, 2014 Having a go at the shrouds. AOTS Suggests they are served down to the catharpins but am I right in thinking the foremost ones should be served all the way down to the deadeye as per Steel's rigging masterwork? Suggestions welcome. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted December 2, 2014 Share #303 Posted December 2, 2014 Timmo - that seems to have been common practice. Only other thing to consider is the scale question, I've decided against serving anything .75mm and smaller thinking it looks too thick and out of scale, that's just my opinion though. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share #304 Posted December 2, 2014 Good point Jason. I've served it and it looks ok on 1mm thread. The first starboard shrouds are installed. I'll post some pics when I get a mo. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share #305 Posted December 4, 2014 Another diversion here but here's a souvenir that some might appreciate - a very fine depth gauge. It's from the now abandoned engineering workshop at the paper where I work after the press was decommissioned. It was used to calibrate press rollers to very fine tolerances for decades Little ship modelling value but it makes you appreciate the quality and workmanship that used to go into tools that is so hard to find now. jwvolz, egkb and WackoWolf 3 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted December 6, 2014 Share #306 Posted December 6, 2014 Nice piece of printing history there Wayne, haven't seen one in a while. Both my wife and I work in the industry as well. I work for one of the largest ink companies in the world (I did work in rollers many years ago), and she's a copy editor at the newspaper. She waits every day for her job to disappear... Timmo 1 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share #307 Posted December 6, 2014 Small world isn't it Joe? The physical end of the business is disappearing rapidly all right - this website is an example of why. On the plus side when I started out only 15 years ago I didn't think I'd be involved in some of the cool things we do online now. But I miss taking a new reporter out to show them the press in full flight as it was a good education on the potential for their mistake to be on every one of the 50,000 copies spinning through it. On the modelling front I've gained a very large workbench which will enlarge my modelling space dramatically and am also re jigging the serving machine slightly to speed up shroud production to try to keep ahead of you jwvolz 1 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris71 Posted December 11, 2014 Share #308 Posted December 11, 2014 Hello Timmo, Fantastic and beautiful work to that build!!!!! Cheers Dimitris Quote Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share #309 Posted January 5, 2015 I'm away from home for a couple of weeks on summer holiday but after days of boating, fishing, swimming and general lounging about I've been rigging the yards in the evening. These are now all complete with the exception of the stirrups for the horses which are brass rod and will need some crafty cutting twisting and blackening when home again. From left are the mizzen yards sitting on the mizzen upper and top mast and at right the main. At lower left is the spritsail yard. Note the early style rigging of the main yard horses with deadeyes. This would presumably have allowed them to have the tension adjusted as per the shrouds but seems to have dropped out of favour in latter years. Dimitris71, egkb, jwvolz and 2 others 5 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share #310 Posted January 6, 2015 Some nautical trivia from my beach holiday. The town of Whitianga in Mercury Bay is know for a visit by Cook aboard the Endeavour but another of his majesty's ships left a more enduring mark. HMS Buffalo was a transport ship built in Calcutta in 1813 and later used to carry convicts and colonists to Australia ( New Zealand was never sullied with transported prisoners) and transport kauri timber spars from NZ for the admiralty. She was blown ashore in a gale in 1840 and later broke up on the beach which was named after her and where I now paddle about with the kids. Only two souls were lost during the wreck. It's hulk was briefly uncovered during a tsunami scare only 100m off the beach in 1960 and there are various small bits and pieces of her including copper sheathing in the local museum. There are some rather nice images of the Buffalo by artist G Jackson on signs marking the spot of the wreck with the one of her grounding capturing the sense of stricken inevitability that must have hung over her once she was on the beach in a then-remote bay with little in the way of other vessels or infrastructure about for aid. The waters are somewhat more calm today.. There are plans for the various conversions of the vessel in the NMM but little in the way of a proper hull plan that I can see with some initial looking although there are some slightly misshapen looking models in Australian Museums that can be seen online. It would make a nice scratch build project one day... Dimitris71, jwvolz, egkb and 1 other 4 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted January 6, 2015 Share #311 Posted January 6, 2015 Yards looking good there Wayne, nice work. Neat info there about the wreck. Enjoy that nice weather, I'm jealous. Winter is here with a vengeance suddenly. Oh, and I may yet not catch you. I'm going to be doing a bit of a remodel to my workspace, so that may serve to slow my torrid pace a bit. Although I am starting to daydream a bit about the next build... Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted January 6, 2015 Share #312 Posted January 6, 2015 Nice looking yards Timmo, very neat work - will be getting back to mine on Snake soon hopefully with your inspiration. I see you used black thread for the stirrups rather than usual natural thread, seems to give a little more muted result which I quite like. Very jealous of the gorgeous beach location! BTW - I'm disappointed to see what I thought to be purely an American affliction rearing its head in New Zealand, namely referring to His/Her Majesty's Ships as the THE HMS 'Such-and-such'....I always think of the restaurant in the movie "Mickey Blue Eyes" called "The La Trattoria" Timmo 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share #313 Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Small progress but the sort that makes a difference in the mental battle that is rigging-the final shroud for the lower mainmast has been installed. I'll rig the dead eyes when the mizzen ones are done. Also the gammoning for the bowsprit has been installed. As per AOTS an eye was spliced in the 1mm rope with a needle used for this. The addition of the extra rails did make the rigging of the gammoning a bit more difficult but this was expected and the hours spent measuring back when making the hair bracket and other rails paid off. The foremost middle rail on the port side broke free while rigging but this was no drama and made the rigging easier. Five turns around the bowsprit before the thread was threaded into a needle to spread up the final turns around the centre of the gammoning before it was tied off. Gammoning finished. Also, here is my new bench I mentioned a way back that should increase my workspace. It's an old cast off (with vice included) from the engineering shop at work that I've added a new plywood top and back to. I'm staggered at how simple general household maintenance tasks and woodworking is when all the tools are ordered and close to hand. If only I didn't have to share it all with the family wagon... Messy cutting and sanding will be done there while in the distance at the back on my old modelling table the sharp eyed observer will see a byrnes table saw picked up second hand from a MSW member. I can now see why people rave about these machines. Scratch builds are what the future holds if I'm not being too optimistic. Edited January 10, 2015 by Timmo Captain Slog, Ryland Craze, Beef Wellington and 11 others 14 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted January 11, 2015 Share #314 Posted January 11, 2015 Looking good Wayne. The gammoning was the first thing I did, and with my new headrails was quite a test of threading the needle. Nice additional space you have there now. My personal shipyard is temporarily closed while I re-model my workroom. Did lots of painting (walls) today. Timmo 1 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share #315 Posted January 18, 2015 The lower shrouds have been rigged and lanyards tied. The foremost shroud was seized it's entire length and the rest seized on the uppermost portion down to about where the catharpins will be. Captain Slog, Blue Ensign, rafine and 14 others 17 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted January 19, 2015 Share #316 Posted January 19, 2015 Looking good Wayne. How's your serving machine working out? The results look nice. You are going to stay ahead of me for awhile. I've been busy remodeling/painting my hobby room, so I've gotten nothing done on Granado of late. Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share #317 Posted January 19, 2015 The serving machine is great. Well worth the effort of knocking it up. I'm looking forward to a pic of this modelling Mecca you're going to have Joe. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaerschen Posted January 19, 2015 Share #318 Posted January 19, 2015 Accurate work Wayne, she's looking great Quote Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share #319 Posted January 20, 2015 Catharpins were made up using Dan Vadas' HMS Vulture example as a guide but of course aren't nearly as neat. rafine, egkb, Barbossa and 9 others 12 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted January 21, 2015 Share #320 Posted January 21, 2015 Catharpins look good to me Wayne. They're a tricky little thing. You're pulling away again, as I'm now delayed another week or so on progress as I wait for my Domanoff serving machine to arrive... Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share #321 Posted January 21, 2015 Domanoff! You've gone gold standard there Joe. Mine needs new clips as the ones on it are small battery terminal gator clips and the thread often slips through as it's too small. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted January 21, 2015 Share #322 Posted January 21, 2015 Well, the Domanoff one is actually purchase number two. I bought the one from Flagship Models and was really disappointed in both the quality and functionality. Big waste and it went in the trash. I should have just gone with Alexi to start with... That's what I get for trying to save some money! Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted January 21, 2015 Share #323 Posted January 21, 2015 Everything is coming together wonderfully, looking really really sharp! Catharpins look great and you got them to what looks like the perfect length, well done. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share #324 Posted January 26, 2015 Futtock shrouds here. I tried seizing an eye for the hook end but the result just looked over scale. A simple knot worked out better. The shrouds were passed around the futtock stave to the right tension and the seized to the lower shrouds. This follows practice seen elsewhere and has the advantage of leaving a tidy result with no large knots on the futtock stave. Rat lines approach but I'll mix it up with some stays to relieve the monotony. Interestingly. While tying the F shrouds outside on the deck on a hot summer's day Granado was caught in an unexpected squall. The wind came out of nowhere and increased rapidly in strength until trees began shaking and the outdoor umbrella came down on my work table, nearly claiming Granado. It was all hands on deck to reduce top hamper until the gust departed as suddenly as it arrived. Gives you an appreciation for mariners being caught by a sudden squall and laid on their beam ends... Beef Wellington, Captain Slog, egkb and 5 others 8 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share #325 Posted February 16, 2015 The lower rat lines have been tied for a while now but I've just finished colouring them black with ink. Also installed are the cabin light lids which were the kit ply with planking attached on one side to match the hull and sanded thinner with a rebate on the edges cut in. A ring bolt was added on the inside face. Blue Ensign, gjdale, egkb and 5 others 8 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share #326 Posted February 16, 2015 The lower stays have also been completed. Again following from Dan Vadas' fine swan class build I turned some mice (mouses?) from wood for the stays, which were served a few scale feet past the mouse for each. The timber used for the say mouse was some manner of African Blackwood, possibly ebony obtained from a mate throwing out some old book ends, The book ends were 'L' shape with carved elephants attached. He kept the elephants and passed on the ends thinking they'd either be good as pizza oven fuel or for boat building. I've never worked with such a heavy, dense wood before. It's great and turned the very small mice nicely. Also knocked up were some anchor buoys . And in a little experiment a 9lb gun in 64th scale was tinkered with on the lathe. Not the neatest but fun and it's incredible how black this timber is. There more uses for it in future I'm sure, Dimitris71, Blue Ensign, Landlubber Mike and 6 others 9 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted February 16, 2015 Share #327 Posted February 16, 2015 Nice detailing Timmo, your blackwood items look very good, I especially like the anchor buoys. B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share #328 Posted February 16, 2015 Thanks BE. Some tricky tying of strops ahead for the bouys. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share #329 Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Not much real progress of late except the mizzen upper shrouds done and both crows' feet. Been distracted watching cricket World Cup matches instead and working on other workshop projects. Crows' feet were quite fiddly to get to correct tension on- a bit too much would pull the stays up and too little would lead to the inner crows feet strands being saggy. It was helpful to find that this piece of rigging was only designed to prevent topsail abrasion against the stays as I had begun the process thinking it was designed to spread the load from the stay to the tops as well as the mast. Hence I was cranking on too much tension initially. The main crows foot was rigged about four times before it looked right. Edited March 8, 2015 by Timmo robdurant, jwvolz, BenD and 6 others 9 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted March 9, 2015 Share #330 Posted March 9, 2015 Nice job on the crowsfeet Wayne. I can see how that may take a few tries. I'll find out soon enough... HardeeHarHar 1 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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